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Poll Results: Size preference

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 45% of voters (318)
    True to size
  • 24% of voters (170)
    True to size runs snug, but feels fine
  • 27% of voters (192)
    Runs small, need to go .5 size up
  • 6% of voters (45)
    Runs big, need to go .5 size down
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post #1381 of 84690
assuming all the htm models that released have a GR counterpart...is there a possibility that we will see a GR flyknit model with the lunaracer sole?
post #1382 of 84690
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Originally Posted by sneekrfiend078 View Post

assuming all the htm models that released have a GR counterpart...is there a possibility that we will see a GR flyknit model with the lunaracer sole?

Thats why they're HTM....
post #1383 of 84690
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post #1384 of 84690
Oh lord, are we going to start this bickering in the thread? Really? Ok...

Anyway, I tried going to Finishline and stock locating a pair using the exact product style# for blue glow/blue tint, university red & total orange/blue glow trainers, they weren't found in the system however. How are you guys doing this? I'd like to try on the 10.5 before I run in the 10s & make them unwearable haha
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post #1385 of 84690
^those are 3 of the colors they don't carry I listed earlier today what colors Finishline has
post #1386 of 84690
I see that they're labeled HTM, but the midsole is pretty generic...not really a stretch to release some pairs with the lunaracer midsole
post #1387 of 84690
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Originally Posted by anhuynh16 View Post

Thats why they're HTM....

I see that they're labeled HTM, but the midsole is pretty generic...not really a stretch to release some pairs with the lunaracer midsole
post #1388 of 84690
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Originally Posted by sneekrfiend078 View Post

assuming all the htm models that released have a GR counterpart...is there a possibility that we will see a GR flyknit model with the lunaracer sole?

Sure. There is always a possibility. Whether it will actually happen or not is another thing. Right now, in this thread, there is not concrete or even hint of a lunar racer sole GR release Flyknit Trainer like the HTM's. The two closest items being released in the future are the Nike Lunar One which has a Flyknit Trainer upper and Lunar Glide sole (release at the beginning of 2013)



And a rumored release of a Flyknit Trainer mid with a Lunar Sole




As for the mid, I have heard rumors and just rumors, dont take my word on it. If anyone has any more info on a wider GR lunar racer sole, your information would be much appreciated!
post #1389 of 84690
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Originally Posted by sneekrfiend078 View Post

I see that they're labeled HTM, but the midsole is pretty generic...not really a stretch to release some pairs with the lunaracer midsole

I actually like the lunaracer midsole compared to the lunar ones as of now. I'm sure they will grow on me over time.

Also my HTM's just shipped out today so I'm hoping to get them by Monday. Will post pics when I receive them.
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post #1390 of 84690
I like the look of the Lunar One with the Lunar Glide 4 midsole. Not feeling the Trainer Mids with the Lunar Sole, looks more like a mid-top canvas shoe.
post #1391 of 84690
Finally got my account active here (although I'm usually a lurker anyway =P) and figured I'd post in this thread with a quick followup on the couple of reviews of the Flyknit Racer. I pondered putting this in the review section but figured that this would also be an appropriate place to post.

I'm in the middle of a pretty aggressive running program (running between 25-30 miles a week) with an average of a 10k per run. I got the shoes on Saturday and took them out for a run for the first time on Monday for a 6 mile run, then again on Wednesday for a 7 miler. For the past two months that I've been on this schedule, I've run primarily in Lunarglide 3s and Free Run 2s.

I actually found the Trainers to be as narrow as the Racers so half sizing down to accommodate the added length resulted in an overly tight forefoot fit. I therefore went with two pairs of the racers. In retrospect, I wonder if the upper on the trainers might stretch out a bit to fit my wide foot but ultimately, I'm of the belief that if the shoe doesn't fit comfortably on a treadmill run for 3 min, it definitely won't be comfortable over longer hauls. Odd as most people seem to have commented that the Racer seemed to be narrower but that was not my experience.

The upper of the racer definitely feels like a second skin and is arguably the best fitting upper of any running shoe I've owned. As was pointed out earlier, the narrow profile of the sole concerned me that my foot wouldn't sit completely/comfortably on it. Over the course of the 6 miler, I didn't feel anything out of place but the 7 miler included a long uphill stretch and there was some slight discomfort. Ultimately though, it's clear that the upper's wraparound design does help suspend/support my foot. Another note to support another earlier post is that I can loosen the lower laces to get it to fit my wide foot while tying the top lace down tight to effectively eliminate any form of heel slip.

During the run, the shift from a Lunar based cushioning system back to Zoom (I used to run quite a lot in the Zoom Victories back in the day) showed me how far cushioning has progressed with Lunar. The ride was definitely harsher that what I was used to (for obvious reasons) and the lack of support or stability was noticed on the runs. Interestingly enough, the Racer actually felt harsher than even the Free Run 2s that I was running in on easy days, although I'm not sure if that will change over the next week or so as I put some more mileage on them and the shoe breaks in. What was instantly noticeable was the speed increase and lack of effort required compared to the other two shoes. There was definitely more energy return and a faster toe off while running in these than when running in either of my other shoes. I'm not sure if this is due to the fact I had a rest day before both runs or if these being the first racing flat style shoes I've run in made the difference, but my pace according to my GPS readouts put me at almost 10-15sec/km (averaging almost a 5:19/km from a 5:35/km) faster than in any of my previous runs. I don't doubt that weight had some factor in this but that large of a difference points to something else, be it some other aspect of the shoes or the day of rest.

Durability wise, I do wonder if the Racers will hold up over repeated training sessions but I guess I'll find out over the next couple of months. The upper itself seems to be quite resilient, and the only concern I'd have is the outsole potentially not holding up well to large mileage, as well as the seam between the upper and the midsole as was mentioned earlier in the thread. Hopefully the latter was just a freak occurrence.

In the end though, I'm definitely satisfied with the purchase and, despite the higher cost, believe that these shoes do bring an appreciable improvement/change to my current rotation. I feel that these shoes are definitely not something I'd run in everyday, as the lack of cushioning does concern me a bit for long term training and potential injuries. However, the overall fit of the shoe is light years ahead of anything else in my rotation and the fact that I want to see if additional mileage might soften up the overall cushioning means that I'll probably try to fit in the shoe at least two times a week for the next month or so, albeit on runs no more than 7 miles. I'm very interested in hearing other runner's opinions on the cushioning of the Racer vs. the Trainer and if there is any appreciable difference between the two. Ultimately, it's a different kind of shoe for a different running experience that I hope will help improve my running overall by giving me something new to train with/adapt to.
post #1392 of 84690
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look man its all good. obviously we each have our own views and in my original comment i never singled anyone out, but you seem to have taken my comment personally otherwise you would not have responded directly to me. and you can be critical of whatever you want. just be prepared for people to call you out on it. Nikes inconsistency? EVERY brand has sizing inconsistencies which is why people try on shoes before they purchase them. ask the person your selling them to what their intended use is? thats silly, a more accurate comparison would be the person who you sell them to turning around and blaming YOU if the shoes dont fit. thats what you are doing..

I don't have to be personally offended but still state what I think.  You told people that have fat feet, don't want to run in them, lace them loosely or like roshes better that they have no business speaking up.  I didn't initiate conflict with anyone by saying something about a company but I'll respond to someone who foolishly makes it more than that.

 

Yes, every brand has sizing inconsistencies, I believe Nike's are glaring.  A sneaker that I want to spend money on (for whatever purpose) but cannot possibly try on surely has the risk of not fitting but I can state that I find that to be one of Nike's faults or any other company as well.

 

You said they weren't made for everyone and they're essentially strictly for runners, that's absurd when Nike has made a push to show non-runners wearing them in the most visible colorway possible in order to market them to everyone.  "Its not nikes fault you cannot pull these off casually because nike did not intend them for casual wearits not nikes fault you cannot pull these off casually because nike did not intend them for casual wear".  If you don't believe they're doing that and they gave pairs to the basketball team, swimmers, gymnasts to show how well they perform in a 10k, I don't know what to tell you.

 

I'll leave it at that and let the thread be about the shoes from here on.

post #1393 of 84690
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Originally Posted by TheAssassin23 View Post

^those are 3 of the colors they don't carry I listed earlier today what colors Finishline has

The blue glow/black code 410 is one of the pairs I mentioned, they didn't come up though. That's the color I want the most actually. Is there anything special that we have to do to make this order work?
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post #1394 of 84690
great review by the way, as to BTB, like i said: of course they are trying to market them, thats their job. we as consumers have the responsibility to choose whats best for us even if that means NOT purchasing something that doesnt work for you personally. so again ill say, its not nikes fault they dont fit you they way you want...
post #1395 of 84690
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good lookin out...

 

 

didn't realize that these have been out for a few months...lots of stores are sold out

post #1396 of 84690
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Originally Posted by cutthroat View Post

As for the mid, I have heard rumors and just rumors, dont take my word on it. If anyone has any more info on a wider GR lunar racer sole, your information would be much appreciated!

i posted the catalog pics of the 3 colors releasing in feb 2013. they're labeled as chukkas.
post #1397 of 84690

700

racers came in. Streak 3's and these = very similar. But these do look nice in person

post #1398 of 84690


Are these joints slated to release? or did I miss the boat? No way I'm payin reseller prices for these

edit: nvm seems like i missed major
Edited by 40inchBoost - 8/2/12 at 3:49pm
post #1399 of 84690
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Originally Posted by Control Are View Post

good lookin out...


didn't realize that these have been out for a few months...lots of stores are sold out
any idea where to find them, looked on NDC and didn't see them.....
post #1400 of 84690
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Finally got my account active here (although I'm usually a lurker anyway =P) and figured I'd post in this thread with a quick followup on the couple of reviews of the Flyknit Racer. I pondered putting this in the review section but figured that this would also be an appropriate place to post.
I'm in the middle of a pretty aggressive running program (running between 25-30 miles a week) with an average of a 10k per run. I got the shoes on Saturday and took them out for a run for the first time on Monday for a 6 mile run, then again on Wednesday for a 7 miler. For the past two months that I've been on this schedule, I've run primarily in Lunarglide 3s and Free Run 2s.
I actually found the Trainers to be as narrow as the Racers so half sizing down to accommodate the added length resulted in an overly tight forefoot fit. I therefore went with two pairs of the racers. In retrospect, I wonder if the upper on the trainers might stretch out a bit to fit my wide foot but ultimately, I'm of the belief that if the shoe doesn't fit comfortably on a treadmill run for 3 min, it definitely won't be comfortable over longer hauls. Odd as most people seem to have commented that the Racer seemed to be narrower but that was not my experience.
The upper of the racer definitely feels like a second skin and is arguably the best fitting upper of any running shoe I've owned. As was pointed out earlier, the narrow profile of the sole concerned me that my foot wouldn't sit completely/comfortably on it. Over the course of the 6 miler, I didn't feel anything out of place but the 7 miler included a long uphill stretch and there was some slight discomfort. Ultimately though, it's clear that the upper's wraparound design does help suspend/support my foot. Another note to support another earlier post is that I can loosen the lower laces to get it to fit my wide foot while tying the top lace down tight to effectively eliminate any form of heel slip.
During the run, the shift from a Lunar based cushioning system back to Zoom (I used to run quite a lot in the Zoom Victories back in the day) showed me how far cushioning has progressed with Lunar. The ride was definitely harsher that what I was used to (for obvious reasons) and the lack of support or stability was noticed on the runs. Interestingly enough, the Racer actually felt harsher than even the Free Run 2s that I was running in on easy days, although I'm not sure if that will change over the next week or so as I put some more mileage on them and the shoe breaks in. What was instantly noticeable was the speed increase and lack of effort required compared to the other two shoes. There was definitely more energy return and a faster toe off while running in these than when running in either of my other shoes. I'm not sure if this is due to the fact I had a rest day before both runs or if these being the first racing flat style shoes I've run in made the difference, but my pace according to my GPS readouts put me at almost 10-15sec/km (averaging almost a 5:19/km from a 5:35/km) faster than in any of my previous runs. I don't doubt that weight had some factor in this but that large of a difference points to something else, be it some other aspect of the shoes or the day of rest.
Durability wise, I do wonder if the Racers will hold up over repeated training sessions but I guess I'll find out over the next couple of months. The upper itself seems to be quite resilient, and the only concern I'd have is the outsole potentially not holding up well to large mileage, as well as the seam between the upper and the midsole as was mentioned earlier in the thread. Hopefully the latter was just a freak occurrence.
In the end though, I'm definitely satisfied with the purchase and, despite the higher cost, believe that these shoes do bring an appreciable improvement/change to my current rotation. I feel that these shoes are definitely not something I'd run in everyday, as the lack of cushioning does concern me a bit for long term training and potential injuries. However, the overall fit of the shoe is light years ahead of anything else in my rotation and the fact that I want to see if additional mileage might soften up the overall cushioning means that I'll probably try to fit in the shoe at least two times a week for the next month or so, albeit on runs no more than 7 miles. I'm very interested in hearing other runner's opinions on the cushioning of the Racer vs. the Trainer and if there is any appreciable difference between the two. Ultimately, it's a different kind of shoe for a different running experience that I hope will help improve my running overall by giving me something new to train with/adapt to.

 

 

I ran 5k in the racers today and my impression of them was really positive. My current shoe is the new balance mr00 which is a zero drop shoe so I was kindve hesistant running in the flyknits. If I'm not mistaken the racers have just a forefoot zoom bag and the trainers have heel and f/f. I run pretty much with a midfoot strike so the lack of a heel bag didnt effect me at all. One thing I noticed was pretty much what you were saying in that the return from the zoom is really nice and it feels like you have more bounce and a quicker turnover. I actually prefer the firmness in the cushioning, anything lunar (except the lunar racers) is pretty much like running in sand to me - just bottoms out. These were great to run in and Im glad they just didnt throw a lunar m/s on them just because that's what nike is really pushing now. The upper fit is amazing. There's no hot spots (for me at least) and it essentially feels like youre just wearing a sock with an outsole. Really look forward to putting more miles in them at longer distances. 

post #1401 of 84690
So, did these already come out?
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post #1402 of 84690
the trainers bulge because they have less lace holes than the racers
post #1403 of 84690

My trainers dont bulge, it could be because people might have gotten a size too big or something? I went TTS

post #1404 of 84690
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Originally Posted by 40inchBoost View Post

1000
Are these joints slated to release? or did I miss the boat? No way I'm payin reseller prices for these
edit: nvm seems like i missed major

Been and gone back in Feb. They were the first release along with the black trainer and the USA blue racer. 

post #1405 of 84690
Just got my trainers.
Nice looking shoe, very light weight.
But soon as I started walking around in them I notice the lack of cushioning, and realized these are not for me.
I hope they release them with the Lunar midsole..
post #1406 of 84690
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Originally Posted by IYE2 View Post


Nice reviews! I'd like to run in a pair, but I just can't do it if I'll be spending +$150. embarassed.gif I haven't run in any Zoom since the Vomero4 and Victory+, and I've been sticking with Lunars and FRs for the past two years. I've been running for about six years now, and I'm pretty new to the "racing" scene (2 Fulls and 1 Half).

Lunar has come a LONG LONG way since the original set of the LunarTrainer and Lunaracer. Yes, those bottomed out. I've had two LunarTrainers bottom out on me, which lasted for ~350mi each pair. HOWEVER, Nike has made significant improvements and progress to their Lunar tech. Currently, I just surpassed the 900mi milestone in the original LunarEclipse, which is the MOST mileage I've ever put on a single pair of running shoes. They're still going strong, but I'm planning to retire them after 1,000mi. Nike must be doing something right with Lunar if they can last for THAT long. Then again, it's all about preference, running form, footstrike, etc...
Edited by ILLustRAYt - 8/2/12 at 9:37pm
post #1407 of 84690

i took my slowpoke dog along and only went 2 miles but i like the sock-like fit and its got good support, better than the streak 3s. Probably put this number one favorite running shoe above my lunaracers. Look forward to getting a couple more pairs

post #1408 of 84690
just got my pairs today happy.gif

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post #1409 of 84690

volts are completely sold out, footlockers will be getting these right?

post #1410 of 84690
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Originally Posted by ILLustRAYt View Post

Nice reviews! I'd like to run in a pair, but I just can't do it if I'll be spending +$150. embarassed.gif I haven't run in any Zoom since the Vomero4 and Victory+, and I've been sticking with Lunars and FRs for the past two years. I've been running for about six years now, and I'm pretty new to the "racing" scene (2 Fulls and 1 Half).
Lunar has come a LONG LONG way since the original set of the LunarTrainer and Lunaracer. Yes, those bottomed out. I've had two LunarTrainers bottom out on me, which lasted for ~350mi each pair. HOWEVER, Nike has made significant improvements and progress to their Lunar tech. Currently, I just surpassed the 900mi milestone in the original LunarEclipse, which is the MOST mileage I've ever put on a single pair of running shoes. They're still going strong, but I'm planning to retire them after 1,000mi. Nike must be doing something right with Lunar if they can last for THAT long. Then again, it's all about preference, running form, footstrike, etc...

IYE2-
Very interesting insight but it makes a lot of sense regarding the Lunar material. I actually ran in my Lunarglide 3s today and it felt exactly as you described: like running in sand. The lack of spring/bounce almost felt like energy just dies as you take each stride. My time was significantly worse than in the Racers despite running a more favorable course today. The only concern I do have with running without that added cushioning is what kind of wear it might put on joints vs a more cushioned Lunar shoe.

IllustRAYt -
I'm noticing that my initial review is worded in a way that might have a negative connotation. Quite the opposite, it feels like Lunar has reached a point where it is a definite and preferred cushioning platform in the Nike lineup. I'm pretty shocked about the mileage you have put on those Eclipses tho as I've found that the Lunarglides I'm running with now are pretty much shot in terms of overall performance at about 400 miles compared to when I first got them. The cushioning properties still seem to work decently enough, but there is definitely less spring in shoes. My buddy just got the latest Eclipses so I'm interested in what he thinks of them vs his 600 mile Lunarglides.

There is a part of me that feels that maybe that is what the Lunar platform is supposed to do: give fantastic cushioning at the cost of responsiveness/overall performance. In the end, I'm still doing the rotation thing between different shoes but I found myself missing the Racer's responsiveness today. If the only difference in cushioning for the Racers vs the Trainers is the heel zoom, then I'm with IYE2 as I'm also a midfoot striker: No reason to go with the trainers unless there is a durability issue with the shoe be it with the outsole or the upper. As a platform, the Flyknit Racer may be my flat out favorite so far. My only concern is long term wear and tear on joints etc. due to the firmness of the ride. Then again, that might just be my paranoia. =P
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