What the Miami Heat need to do to turn it Around!!!!!!!

Dude this is ya second post like this ina week u need to stop thinkin about it watever Pat Riley does is wat he'll do stop tryin to guess wats gonna godown its not even all star break.

Ima Heat fan to but man Im not spending 24/7 thinkin like im a fantasy GM relax n face it this seasons done enjoy college ball or watching the better matchupsin the L.Its Pat Rileys job not yours no matter wat u type here will make a difference anybody can guess this and that but its pointless.

U seem to get affended by any responses that dont agree with u and turn it into a tit for tat trash talkin bout this team n yours this player n that.

Were all bitter as fans when our teams go this way but we can do nothing to sort it out,I for one wouldnt want Bibby,Artest or Reef none of them will help theHeat Reef and Bibbys best days are way behind them and Artest is not good for any teams spirit n lockeroom hell never stay outa trouble.

Just wait and see man thas all we can do its there jobs thas why they get paid the money they do.

Peace
Scottie
 
i'm not even a knicks fan but....
By the way, your NY Knicks are the worse franchise in the history of sports.
knicks: 8-22
heat: 8-24

....now is not the time to talk.
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You have one of the best guards in the L, good depth, and one of the most dominant big men (Although not in his prime of course) and your not better than theKnicks, uh oh.

To be a little more serious, thinking Shaq would last for however long he was signed for (5 years?) is reaching, a 2-3 year contract would have been a greatdeal, and I know it won you a championship, but it's hurting you now. How many games do you expect Shaq to paly this year? Howa bout next year?
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He can't win games anymore for the Heat.
Wade has has two game winning shots this year, after missing the 1st month of the season coming off two major surgeries. Wade is asked to doeverything and had been playing with an empty tank all year. Wade is asked to play PG, SG, and sometimes SF. Wade brings the ball up court getting full courtpressed, the doubled and tripled teamed, has to crate his own shot and shots for his teammates, then he drives to the basket and gets hammered over and over.
My point is that rumors are just that, rumors, all a bunch of talk.
Funny thing this summer there were rumors that the Tiberwolves were going to trade KG. Wow did thing that was going to happen cause those wererumors right
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Expiring contracts for one team is different for expiring contracts for another year, oh and, Steve Francis wasn't good, he scored yeah, but he had horrible shooting %, and the Magic weren't good. If you got a player like Steve Francis, he's the only option you have.
Steve Francis was a all star caliber player. That is why he was getting paid so much money. You prove my point, the Magic weren't any good andhad a good player that another team wanted, so what did they do?? Dump Francis' long term, big contract on another team for a contract that would expirewhen the Magic were going to go after their desired free agent. The Kings might want that expiring contract to go after a free agent they want this summer.
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Originally Posted by Lavious

i'm not even a knicks fan but....
By the way, your NY Knicks are the worse franchise in the history of sports.
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knicks: 8-22
heat: 8-24

....now is not the time to talk.

NY Knicks salary $88,877,161

Miami Heat salary $72,491,246

The 2nd highest payroll in the league and what do the Knicks have to show for it 1

sexual lawsuit 2. players telling on coaches, coaches telling on players 3. The 3rd worse record in theNBA 4. Firing a hall of Fame coach - Larry Brown 5. On National television, playing the Boston Celtics, th final score read 59-104, a 45 ptlost.

Yea, the Heat are at a low point, but the Heat have a championship to show for it, unlike theseKnicks.

YAnd you know you are the worst franchise in the history of sports when you own loyal devoted fans are booingthe head coach and president and everyone is saying he needs to be fired.


 
Steve Francis was a all star caliber player. That is why he was getting paid so much money. You prove my point, the Magic weren't any good and had a good player that another team wanted, so what did they do?? Dump Francis' long term, big contract on another team for a contract that would expire when the Magic were going to go after their desired free agent. The Kings might want that expiring contract to go after a free agent they want this summer.


The Magic weren't very good last year without Rashard Lewis? Dwight Howard isn't very good? The only reasonable free agent Sacramento would get isAntawn Jamison, but why would he want to go to Sacramento.

Funny thing this summer there were rumors that the Tiberwolves were going to trade KG. Wow did thing that was going to happen cause those were rumors right


You yourself made the point that Garnett and Bibby/Artest are not in the same category. KG wanted out of Minnesota. The Heat are en route to be one of thebottom 5 teams in the L, you're comparing two completely different situations. You know another rumor? There were rumors that Kobe was going to Chicago,didn't happen. And these were plausible rumors, most rumors are reporters talking out of their "butts," because the media needs something to talkabout. Honestly, you'd have a better chance going after Tracy McGrady and a PG of theirs, they have a plethura of them. Oh no, I shouldn't have givenyou any ideas about an upcoming fantasy idea.


The fact of the matter is that the Heat aren't any good, and the chances of that trade ever happening is VERY minimal. Wade missed the first 7 games. Theyare 7-17 since then, with losses to Milwaukee, Washington, Philly, Cleveland, Atlanta, Seattle, and some of those teams multiple times. Only about 4 qualitywins (Utah, Phoenix, Houston, New Jersey). Just because a player is doing well individually, if his team isn't winning, they aren't doing well.
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You have one of the best guards in the L, good depth, and one of the most dominant big men (Although not in his prime of course) and your not better than the Knicks, uh oh.


What depth are talking about???????

Lets do this take away the two best player on both teams and this is how you can see the depth.

New York Knicks
[table][tr][td]32[/td] [td]Renaldo Balkman[/td] [td]F[/td] [td]6-8[/td] [td]Huslte man, 1st Rd pick
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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]21[/td] [td]Wilson Chandler[/td] [td]F[/td] [td]6-8[/td] [td]Rookie, 1st Rd pick
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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]25[/td] [td]Mardy Collins[/td] [td]G[/td] [td]6-6[/td] [td]Who is this????
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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]11[/td] [td]Jamal Crawford[/td] [td]G[/td] [td]6-5[/td] [td]Great scorer
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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]13[/td] [td]Jerome James[/td] [td]F-C[/td] [td]7-1[/td] [td]Big man, big contract
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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]20[/td] [td]Jared Jeffries[/td] [td]F[/td] [td]6-11[/td] [td]Great size SF, big contract
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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]2[/td] [td]Fred Jones[/td] [td]G[/td] [td]6-2[/td] [td]Slam Dunk Champ high flyer
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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]42[/td] [td]David Lee[/td] [td]F[/td] [td]6-9[/td] [td]Mr. Do it All
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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]5[/td] [td]Randolph Morris[/td] [td]C[/td] [td]6-11[/td] [td]Who this????/
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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]50[/td] [td]Zach Randolph[/td] [td]F[/td] [td]6-9[/td] [td]Post Scorer
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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]23[/td] [td]Quentin Richardson[/td] [td]F-G[/td] [td]6-6[/td] [td]3 pt shooter
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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]4[/td] [td]Nate Robinson[/td] [td]G[/td] [td]5-9[/td] [td]High energy, young talent
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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]31[/td] [td]Malik Rose[/td] [td]F[/td] [td]6-7[/td] [td]Defender
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Miami Heat

[table][tr][td]50[/td] [td]Joel Anthony[/td] [td]C[/td] [td]6-9[/td] [td] Who is this??????????
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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]30[/td] [td]Earl Barron[/td] [td]C[/td] [td]7-0[/td] [td]Who is this??????????
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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]15[/td] [td]Mark Blount[/td] [td]C-F[/td] [td]7-0[/td] [td]Center who plays like a SF
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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]14[/td] [td]Daequan Cook[/td] [td]G[/td] [td]6-5[/td] [td]Rookie
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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]31[/td] [td]Ricky Davis[/td] [td]G[/td] [td]6-7[/td] [td]Good scorer
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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]40[/td] [td]Udonis Haslem[/td] [td]F[/td] [td]6-8[/td] [td]Good rebounder
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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]6[/td] [td]Luke Jackson[/td] [td]F-G[/td] [td]6-7[/td] [td]Picked off waivers, D-Leaguer
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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]13[/td] [td]Alexander Johnson[/td] [td]F[/td] [td]6-9[/td] [td]Who is this???????????
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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]33[/td] [td]Alonzo Mourning[/td] [td]C[/td] [td]6-10[/td] [td]Injured out for the season
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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]21[/td] [td]Smush Parker[/td] [td]G[/td] [td]6-4[/td] [td]Basically kicked off the team, until traded
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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]11[/td] [td]Chris Quinn[/td] [td]G[/td] [td]6-2[/td] [td]Thrown into the starting PG position Who is this???
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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]55[/td] [td]Jason Williams[/td] [td]G[/td] [td]6-1
[/td] [td]Injured and has not played consistent minutes
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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1[/td] [td]Dorell Wright[/td] [td]F[/td] [td]6-9[/td] [td]High schooler finally given some time to play
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Depth
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The Heat's Depth consist of injured players and a bunch of D-Leaguers
 
you arent getting artest for that trash.

i take it you are a heat fan right?

because you seem to only be willing to trade your team's trash for a superstar...
 
Funny thing this summer there were rumors that the Tiberwolves were going to trade KG. Wow did thing that was going to happen cause those were rumors right


Seriously man, grow up. There were rumors of him going to Golden State, LA, Boston (obviously), and the Mavs (I heard one about the mavs as well)
There were Kobe rumors that he was going to either NYK, Chicago, Dallas, Orlando, Phoenix, almost every damn team in the leauge
There were Jermaine O'Neal rumors that he was going to LA for Lamar Odom
There were Shawn Marion rumors that he was going out to an east team this year to become the number one guy.
There were rumors about Darko signing with the Cavs
There were rumors that Andy V signing with the grizzlies

Clearly, rumors are, what JapanAir said, just rumors. Talk. And most times, those rumors turn out to be garbage anyway from a non credible source. So from whatI understand, your saying that all rumors come true then, correct? So if that, Kobe is now a bull, JO plays for the Lakers, Lamar Odom plays for the pacers,Marion is out east making a name for himself, Darko is with the Cavs, Andy V is with the grizzlies, and KG is out playing for Golden State...

... Oh wait, thats not the case. AT ALL.

Just proves that rumors will always be rumors, until something is actually done about it.




And the only way Miami does something good to improve the team is if they tank, Shaq calls it a career, and get rid of everybody minus Wade and Haslem, andwork from the bottom up. I know somebody mentioned it before in this thread, and I totally agree.

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lets just have the heat lose the rest of the games and get a high draft pick so we can put a PG next to wade. after watching the heat and their dismal collapseagain in the 4th quarter against the bucks its depressing for me to watch more games. im trying but it they have been painful to watch this season and this iscoming from somebody who's loved the heat since they became a franchise.
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This Trade Succeeded! Go back to adjust your trade or start over.

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[h2]Golden State Warriors[/h2]

[table][tr][th=""]Incoming Players[/th] [/tr][tr][td]
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Alexander Johnson
Salary: $770,610 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 2.3 REB: 1.3 AST: 0.2 PER: 10.68
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Damon Jones
Salary: $4,172,432 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 5.5 REB: 1.0 AST: 1.4 PER: 8.58
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Outgoing Players: Mickael Pietrus, Kosta Perovic

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[h2]Miami Heat[/h2]

[table][tr][th=""]Incoming Players[/th] [/tr][tr][td]
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Mickael Pietrus
Salary: $3,470,771 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 6.1 REB: 2.9 AST: 0.6 PER: 11.66

1-Year Bird Must receive consent to trade players with a 1-year contract, excluding options, who will become Early Bird or Bird free agents at the end of the contract, or players who have accepted a qualifying offer for a 5th season following the 4th option season on the Rookie Scale. If the player consents, he will lose his Bird rights and become a non-Bird free agent at the end of the contract.
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Outgoing Players: Alexander Johnson, Smush Parker

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[h2]Cleveland Cavaliers[/h2]

[table][tr][th=""]Incoming Players[/th] [/tr][tr][td]
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Smush Parker
Salary: $2,250,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 4.8 REB: 2.1 AST: 1.7 PER: 5.75
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Kosta Perovic
Salary: $1,800,000 Years Remaining: 3
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Outgoing Players: Damon Jones

heat get: another athlete with small risk, ask for a second round pick
cavs get: rid of a cancer
warriors get: servicable pg/big man
 
^ I totally agree.

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Originally Posted by vincec15

you guys woulda been better if u kept caron butler and lamar odom.
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The Miami Heat won an NBA championship by trading away those players. I love C. Butler, but it had to be and Im glad it did.
 
The heat should actually thank anthony carter for winning a championship. if it werent for his agent forgetting to file some paper work for more money for a.carter we woulda never been able to sign Lamar Odom from the Clippers. and then from there you know the rest of the trades. so i would like to dedicate ourchampionship to Anthony Carter. You are truly appreciated!
 
Whatever you do, just please get the 8th seed in the East.

I would love for you to give Minnesota a 1st rounder this year.
 
Man, this thread convinces me that the average age on NT is under 16 years old.
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Miamipinoyboy I support whatever you say!!! You should be the official spokesperson of Team Heat (no riding)!! Yes the miami heat are down but believe me rileswill not go out with out a fight!!! Go Heat
 
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Man, this thread convinces me that the average age on NT is under 16 years old.
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