ACC Football: How sorry is it?

dajoka004

dajoka004

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This conference blows. It's hard to be a fan of any team from this conference. I shall start from the top.

1. Virginia Tech- Gets beat by Kansas last night? What the hell is that? They have benefited the last two years fromplaying in an extremely weak conference. Their biggest win of the year was probably Clemson, who I don't think anybody is all that impressed with.
2. Boston College- Bunch of fakers. Also benefited from an extremely weak schedule. Winning at Blacksburg was a strokeof luck.
3. Clemson- Lost every big game they played this year. Enough said.
4. Virginia- Had the easiest schedule in the history of college football. Honestly should have been at least 11-1.Would be better if we had a QB that could hit guys that were more than five yards away from him.
5. Wake Forest- Another weak schedule. Didn't beat anybody worth mentioning.
6. Florida State- I don't even know what to say about this school. How do you fall off so hard?
7. Georgia Tech- Zero consistency. A new coach won't change anything.
8. Maryland- The fat#%*% has lost it. Has no clue what he's doing out there then proceeds to blow a gasket when hethinks the refs are screwing him.
9. Miami- See Florida State
10. North Carolina- Note to Butch Davis: UNC is a basketball school.
11. North Carolina State- Terrible is the only word to describe them.
12. Duke- Broke their long losing streak this year. Proceeded to start a new one the next week.

So that pretty much sums it up. Worst BCS conference in existence.
 
FSU will be aight. Assuming they can get some consistency at QB......

Yes, i've been saying that for the last 3 years. VT is pretty damn good. BC is trash. Cant stand em.
 
1. Virginia Tech- Gets beat by Kansas last night? What the hell is that? They have benefited the last two years from playing in an extremely weak conference. Their biggest win of the year was probably Clemson, who I don't think anybody is all that impressed with.


Yup. And this was supposed to be our best year. Simply put, we will never be any good unless we get a new OC/change offensive systems. What the hell are wegonna do when Miami and FSU get back in the mix? No way in hell our weak%@%! offense will be able to score enough points to win 10 games when/if the rest ofthe conference gets better.

i was hoping VT would be our savior this year, but of course the Chokies do what they do



Seriously. Does anybody else blow as many games as we do?
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Larry Choker and his sorry recruiting set the U back beyond belief. The U hasn't had a decent QB since Dorsey and it all starts there. I believe thatShannon will get better players in and hopefully we'll see a turnaround
 
You know it's bad when your own fans can't say something good about you. I mean, outside of VT's defense/special teams, can anybody name one goodthing in the conference?
 
Originally Posted by DaJoka004

You know it's bad when your own fans can't say something good about you. I mean, outside of VT's defense/special teams, can anybody name one good thing in the conference?
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Miami's D and running game has been good until this season. Calvin Johnson was good last year for G Tech. Yeah, V-Tech always has that specialteams thing down. That's about it I guess.
 
Man, just look at the ACC's terrible 2-6 Bowl performance, including that joke in Miami last night seals the deal...
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Florida State is basically the laughing stock of the NCAA right now while Virginia Techobviously can not beat a quality team. Otherwise the rest of the teams have no excuses. This conference has hit rock bottom.
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Beamerand Va. Tech have never been able to win the big game, and the rest of the conference drowns in a sea of meciocrity. The recruits are just not going there.Look at the demise of Florida State as a power. They are now way behind Florida and South Florida in the recruiting wars. It is a conference wide problem.I'm guessing it will take at least 2-3 years before they can recover.
 
^ FSU will always get recruits and we have a top 5 class this year. Coaching is one of the big reasons why FSU fell off not recruiting
 
Wake Forest beat UCONN handily in the bowl game. the 2nd best team in the Big east. woulda beat BC & Nebraska if Riley didnt get hurt. Unfortunately he isbasically the focal point of their offense. and I forgot the FG kicker choke job vs UVA.

Wake is on the right track. The rest of the ACC better hope Grobe gets a new job soon, real soon. they have middle of the pack talent except for a handful butthey play as a team and have one of the best coaches in college
 
Originally Posted by K8be wan Kenobi

but Clemson has mad talent on the roster, i don't see why they weren't a great team this year.

CJ Spiller?
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thats about it, honestly. no other reason to even watch ACC football. and he sucked for most of the year
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The biggest reasons, IMO, were a lack of cohesion on the OL and youth/inexperience. For the first few games, we had a Soph playing Center who should be aGuard. We had a mammoth LT in Barry Richardson who could be a 1st round pick if he wanted to be and could actually keep his weight down during the season. Wehad a RT who's about 6'2" and main redeeming quality is that he's tougher than the other OL but he should be a Guard. And the other guysacross the line were just young and inexperienced, although talented. We lost a huge threat and one of the fastest players in the country when Jacoby Fordbroke his ankle.

Our special teams play lost the VT game and our WR dropped a ridiculous amount of big passes in the GT game and our kicker missed something like 4 FGs.Aaron Kelly, who'd be probably the top WR in the ACC drops a ball at the end of the BC game that would've put us at the 2 yard line playing for thewin, instead of going for a 60+ yard FG. Cullen Harper, who'd been the #2 QB behind Mr. Everything Matt Ryan (and had a been QB rating) couldn't throwthe ball in the ocean from the beach in the Peach Bowl.
We're stockpiling talent, but we'd been so far behind that even with guys like Spiller, when you don't have good line play and you lackconsistency in all phases of the game, it's tough to win. CJ is crazy talented, but I'm sure he'd admit he wasn't playing at the beginning ofthis year like he was at the end of last year.

Bottomline, we we're predicted to finish in the top 25 or in the upper half of the ACC because we had a lot of youth and a lot of unknowns. It showed.We've got 18 starters returning next year, first game against Bama in the GA Dome and if we can't get it done then, something just ain't right.

And yes, the ACC does suck and we're not helping the cause.
 
Gunna still hyping Wake...
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I could see an argument for having zero ACC teams in the preseason top 25.
 
that aint hype

what wake forest has done the last two yrs would be like Vandy wining the SEC one yr then winning 10 games the next and going to a bowl again
 
^ FSU will have a chance to start in the top 25. I think we were in the top 20 to start this season without showing any improvement over years past. The votersgive Bowden a lot of credit and respect for what hes done in the past and tend start FSU near or in the top 25.

Personally i dont think we should start near the preseason top 25 or even at the top of the ACC.

Wake will probably be one of if not the best team in the conference until FSU or Miami start dominating again
 
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Gunna still hyping Wake...
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I could see an argument for having zero ACC teams in the preseason top 25.
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Won't happen. The voters love VT. They'll put them in the top 10 even though they have no business being there. Clemson will probably be in the20s.
 
wake is guaranteed top 20 next season. too many players returning and a bowl win vs a top 25 team.
 
Originally Posted by DaJoka004

6. Florida State- I don't even know what to say about this school. How do you fall off so hard?
9. Miami- See Florida State

11. North Carolina State- Terrible is the only word to describe them.
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Point #1: Florida State and Miami have fallen off because they have to deal with the higher academic standards in the ACC, thus it's harder to getrecruits.

Point #2: Wake Forest does well because Grobe gets the recruits who don't mind redshirting to learn the system. He also has a fan base who gives him a verylow pressure environment. They would be happy with 6 wins a year. If you've ever been to a game at their stadium you know they got a ways to go. Oh, thatand they all chop block like crazy.

Point #3: I know your rankings are arbitrary, but I don't know how you put a team at #11 that beat both teams #9 and #10 and had either equal or betterrecords.

Oh, and scoreboard: 29-24.

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Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

that aint hype

what wake forest has done the last two yrs would be like Vandy wining the SEC one yr then winning 10 games the next and going to a bowl again
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don't give me hope lol.

I like Clemson next year. Hopefully they won't choke. They have all the pieces there.
 
Point #3: I know your rankings are arbitrary, but I don't know how you put a team at #11 that beat both teams #9 and #10 and had either equal or better records.

Those rankings look like they were pieced together from the standings on espn.com. After all, NC State did finish last in the Atlantic Division of the ACC...
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FSU's recruiting class this next year should be quality so hopefully they'll bring back SOME sort of winning, or at least just not getting embarrassed.
 
Originally Posted by tmay407

Point #3: I know your rankings are arbitrary, but I don't know how you put a team at #11 that beat both teams #9 and #10 and had either equal or better records.
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Those rankings look like they were pieced together from the standings on espn.com. After all, NC State did finish last in the Atlantic Division of the ACC...

They weren't. I just sort of threw together how I thought the teams fall.
 
Atlantic division was stronger than Coastal by far, with the exception of Va Tech.

In fact NC State was 3-0 against the coastal (Miami, UVA, UNC-CH) but a dismal 0-5 in the atlantic.

Oh well, football in the ACC has always been sorry, so it's not like we've fallen off. We've always been a basketball-centric conference Ithink.
 
Point #1: Florida State and Miami have fallen off because they have to deal with the higher academic standards in the ACC, thus it's harder to get recruits
nah, FSU's standards havent gone up one bit. its still a state school. and FSU has been in the ACC for a good 10 yrs now.

Its the 85 scholarship limit that is turning perennial also rans into contenders. that 86 - 100th player that were on papers in previous years arent gonnawalk on at big schools if they can get full rides at a Wake or so.

you are so very on point about Grobe's red shirt system. He red shirts somethin like 35 guys a yr. its kinda sick. It takes a patient Athlete to acceptthat. and u gotta believe in the coach. and Grobe has everyone's trust.
Arkansas should have thrown soo much money at him, O well.
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Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

Point #1: Florida State and Miami have fallen off because they have to deal with the higher academic standards in the ACC, thus it's harder to get recruits
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nah, FSU's standards havent gone up one bit. its still a state school. and FSU has been in the ACC for a good 10 yrs now.

Its the 85 scholarship limit that is turning perennial also rans into contenders. that 86 - 100th player that were on papers in previous years arent gonna walk on at big schools if they can get full rides at a Wake or so.

you are so very on point about Grobe's red shirt system. He red shirts somethin like 35 guys a yr. its kinda sick. It takes a patient Athlete to accept that. and u gotta believe in the coach. and Grobe has everyone's trust.
Arkansas should have thrown soo much money at him, O well.



Gunna the funny thing is Vandy does the same thing too, which I think why they have been able to reach 5 wins a year lol.

The thing about Wake and Grobe is if he didn't take the Ark job, what type of job is he going to run to?
I think Duke is going to be on the rise. Cutcliffe should be able to move them away from the 1-2 win area into the 4-5 possibly 6 win area because of theweakness of the ACC.
 
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