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Alex Kurtzman To Direct Spider-Man Spin-Off ‘Venom’, Coming In 2018

Sony Pictures has dated a movie focusing on Spider-Man villain Venom for October 5, 2018. Alex Kurtzman has signed on to direct the film. Hit the jump for more details on the Venom movie.

Alex Kurtzman‘s filmography is mostly in the screenwriting department. He has credits on The Island, The Legend of Zorro, Mission: Impossible III, Transformers, Star Trek, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, Cowboys & Aliens, Star Trek Into Darkness, The Amazing Spider-Man, and television shows Star Trek: Discovery, Alias, Fringe, Xena and Hercules.

He directed an episode of the JJ Abrams-produced show Alias, before making his feature debut with 2012’s People Like Us. He is the filmmaker behind the Tom Cruise remake of The Mummy, arriving later this year. I have had some great interactions with Kurtzman in person, he seems like a smart geek who loves film. I haven’t seen enough from The Mummy to have an opinion on him as a big action director quite yet.

Last we heard Sony hired Dante Harper to write the script for Venom, which was envisioned as a potential franchise-starter. And at that time we were told that the film would stand alone completely “apart from and unrelated to” the upcoming Spider-Man movies featuring Holland. No word on if anything has changed on that front but as it sounds like Venom isn’t joining Spidey in the MCU as Avi Arad and Matt Tolmach will produce this film. Harper’s screenwriting resume includes the upcoming American remake of Sleepless Night, Tommy Wirkola’s Hansel and Gretel: Witch Hunters, and rewrite work on the Edge of Tomorrow.

Sony has made repeated attempts to make a Venom spinoff for years now. During the tail end of the Sam Raimi / Tobey Maguire Spider-man era, they hoped to launch a spin-off franchise. Venom made his first big-screen appearance in 2007’s Spider-Man 3, where Topher Grace played him.

When a Spider-Man cinematic universe was planned during the Marc Webb / Andrew Garfield Spider-Man era, Venom was one of the properties being developed. Paul Wernick and Rhett Reese (Deadpool) took a crack at the script, as has Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci (The Amazing Spider-Man 2). Gary Ross and Josh Trank were attached to direct at various points. But of course, Sony decided to reboot the character as part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Tom Holland made his debut appearance as Peter Parker aka Spider-Man in Captain America: Civil War, and will be appearing in his own standalone movie Spider-Man: Homecoming, which hits theaters in July. Holland is expected to reprise his role in at least two more Spider-Man films, in addition to Marvel’s epic crossover Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers 4.
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fan theory:

A recent fan theory has been floating around the internet suggesting that Sony’s upcoming sci-fi film Life could be a backdoor Venom prequel. Daniel Espinosa’s film follows astronauts aboard the International Space Station who retrieve the first Martian lifeform. The tiny sentient organism grows powerful and begins to kill off the crew members.

The speculation began on Reddit when a user pointed out a recycled shot from Spider-Man 3 appears in the trailer for Life. This is a common practice that happens more often than you would think. Someone in the thread began to theorizes: “What if Life is actually a symbiote/Venom origin story?” Of course, this is just how we think in this post-Split world, and the chances of this are very very VERY unlikely.

It is worth noting that Deadpool screenwriters Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick previously worked on a Venom script for Sony before the Spider-man cinematic universe was seemingly abandoned with the MCU Spider-Man deal.
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Why are they pushing Venom so hard and trying to release the movie so fast. Shouldn't Tom Holland be involved? Are we not getting the symbiote in infinity war?? :nerd:
 
Wait so are they still doing that whole sinister 6 movie too??? Man I need to look up the actual agreement between Marvel and Sony, If Sony still has control over some of Spideys top villains :stoneface:
 
Why hasn't someone at Sony explained why they're making a solo film about Spider-Man's archnemesis that is self-contained and distinct from the decade-old Marvel Cinematic Universe that currently contains the only legal on-film depiction of Spider-Man himself

This movie will stink and nobody will see it
 
KingdomFlatbush said:
Why hasn't someone at Sony explained why they're making a solo film about Spider-Man's archnemesis that is self-contained and distinct from the decade-old Marvel Cinematic Universe that currently contains the only legal on-film depiction of Spider-Man himself

This movie will stink and nobody will see it
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its gonna get fantastic 4 treatment without any support from da MCU...
 
I'm totally fine with this.

Sony made some recent underwhelming Spidey flick. They underachieved, then they smartened up, and bent the knee to Marvel. Giving Spidey to the MCU Which is basically already a success.

I think they've earned the right to do a spin-off character movie and experiment.

I have no reason to believe they'll make something as terrible as Fan4stic. Who is to say it'll be searate from Spider-Man? One post credit scene can change that.

I don't care if this solo Venom movie is about Eddie or Scorion or Flash. Could be a made up character. The general concept of the Venom symbiote is enough to play with. Do something different while leaving it open to connect to Spidey.

Look forward to the Silver Sable or whoever else (female character under the Spidey umbrella solo) movie.
 
'Spider-Man' Spinoff: 'Thor' Writer Tackling Silver Sable, Black Cat Movie (Exclusive)
Sony’s Spider-Man universe is getting a little bigger.

The studio, already in deep development on villain offshoot Venom, is now developing a feature project centered on the female characters Silver Sable and the Black Cat.

Chris Yost, who worked on the upcoming Marvel movie Thor: Ragnarok, is writing the script, building on a previous version written by Lisa Joy, the co-creator of HBO’s Westworld.

The studio is hoping to go to directors soon with an eye toward a fall start date. Matt Tolmach and Amy Pascal are producing the project, which was previously known as the "secret female spinoff project."

Silver Sable, created by Tom DeFalco and Ron Frenz in 1985, is a mercenary who runs a company that hunts war criminals. The character has been both antagonist and ally to Spider-Man.

Black Cat, an acrobatic cat burglar whose real name is Felicia Hardy, has a long and tangled romantic history with Spider-Man in the comics. The character was cut from scripts for the Sam Raimi Spider-Man trilogy, and a "Felicia Hardy" (played by Felicity Jones) briefly appeared in Amazing Spider-Man 2, though no Black Cat connection was ever made explicit.

Sony has a new and rebooted Spider-Man movie coming this summer, Spider-Man: Homecoming, and the superhero and his universe of characters are seen as a bright spot on a rather meager slate. But the problem with having rights to the character and universe is that, while Spider-Man is the most popular Marvel character, the other standouts tend to be the villains from his rogue’s gallery.

Hence, Sony is developing Venom, based on the popular character who already appeared onscreen in Raimi’s Spider-Man 3 and who has sometimes acted as an antihero in the Marvel comics. The studio has penciled in an October 2018 release and is meeting directors on the project.

Black Cat is a major supporting character in the Spider-Man universe, though Sable is less known.

(The spinoffs are not offshoots from the upcoming Spider-Man: Homecoming but rather projects spun from the overall franchise and based on Sony's Marvel's Spider-Man universe.)

Yost has deep Marvel ties, having worked on not only two Thor movies, but also having gotten his start writing on Marvel animated series such as Wolverine and the X-Men. He is also known for comic book work on X-23, better known as Wolverine’s cloned daughter who is a headliner in the hit Wolverine movie Logan.

Yost is repped by Verve.
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IN for Silver Sable.

I mess with Yost the comic writer. His Thor scripts have left much to be desired though.

As far as Black Cat, eh. I feel like anything cat related especially in the superhero realm ends up sucking.
 
I'm pretty sure once Homecoming is a hit they'll push up the Venom release for the summer.

Probably pit it against w/e FoX-Men or DC put out.

The ball will be rolling from there. By late 2018 we'll be hearing Prowler movie rumors :lol: :nerd:
 
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So are the Spider-Man spinoffs gonna officially be in the MCU, or is Sony gonna pretty much handle those on their own? I just cant really picture a Venom or a Black Cat standalone flick fitting in the MCU
 
iLike Turtles said:
So are the Spider-Man spinoffs gonna officially be in the MCU, or is Sony gonna pretty much handle those on their own? I just cant really picture a Venom or a Black Cat standalone flick fitting in the MCU
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They're independent of the MCU...really wish we'd see the symbiote in a cameo in GOTG vol 2 or infinity war tho. And my questions arise when Holland isn't gonna show up in the films smfh
 
Sony is really desperate for a hit at the box office these days. That's why they were cool with Marvel running with the new Spidey flick.
 
iLike Turtles said:
So are the Spider-Man spinoffs gonna officially be in the MCU, or is Sony gonna pretty much handle those on their own? I just cant really picture a Venom or a Black Cat standalone flick fitting in the MCU
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It may end up a MCU film and MCU tv thing.

They exist in the universe but are hardly mentioned.

It also could be they're not in the same universe at first but when they're ready to do a movie involving them their movies will suddenly be retroactively added in to the MCU.

I'm betting somehow nothing will be said or done to exclude the possibility the movies are in the MCU.
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Sony is really desperate for a hit at the box office these days. That's why they were cool with Marvel running with the new Spidey flick.
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Forget a hit, Sony really needs to get their **** togwther across the board. If not expect th3 head honchos back in Japan to sell off the US movie and tv divisions.
 
I hope MCU will give Spidey more of his costumes like they've given Iron Man all those armors. Ben Reilly costume from the mid-late 90s would be awesome to see on the big screen.
 
datboi81 said:
I hope MCU will give Spidey more of his costumes like they've given Iron Man all those armors. Ben Reilly costume from the mid-late 90s would be awesome to see on the big screen.
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Would be nice only if Scarlet Spider makes an appearance and not Peter actually donning the suit. Quite honestly, it's alot for viewers to take if they found out Peter was a clone or if they add the fairly complex story line to Peter Parker. I remember as a kid, I stopped reading the Sipdey series because it got too heavy for me. :lol:
 
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