Breaking Bad Thread - "El Camino" - A Breaking Bad Movie on Netflix 10/11

Am I late? is this a reach? Sorry if so...Haven't kept up too much with this thread, been busy.

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I'm staying off of Reddit and probably this thread for the rest of the season. Dudes are way too smart and spoiling it for me with their predictions coming true lol
 
DarthSka said:
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CP1708 said:
If Walt did attempt to kill Jesse, isn't that where the entire audience gives up on Walt and stops rooting for him?


Jesse has always been the one that everyone figures to survive, if Walt tries to take him out, his own partner who helped Walt get into the game in the first place, I don't see how everyone could back that.


Also, I find it REALLY ironic, that if Season 5 never happens, and we didn't think it would, they would have ended Season 4 with Walt and Jesse bein just fine, and walkin off into the sunset with their money. Remember them cleanin up the laundry mat together.

I never could have imagined Season 5 working out like this. Tremendous job by the writers.


Also, Matrix nod last week? :nerd:

Red van for a new life, Blue pack of cigs to go back to his old life and fight a new battle.
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Honestly, I don't think I'll stop rooting for Walt. I'm well aware of the evil things he's done and I was almost through with him when he killed Mike but that still didn't stop me from cheering for Walt in the following episode. Anna Gunn explained it very well on Breaking Bad. We veered towards him from the start because he was a broken man who never had much going for him, was kicked around for most of his life and then was diagnosed with cancer. The audience had many things to identify itself with Walt and so we took a liking towards Walt because he started to play the game by his own rules, something most of us wish we could do. He was an average Joe and decided "**** that, I'm doing what I gotta do."


So in a sense, it's like we're living the life of a badass vicariously through Walt and even though we realize that he's gone overboard and that his character has completely transformed from S1 to present time, we still want to finish the story with him. Most of us probably accept that he's going to die as well but we just want to be there on his side until he's gone. That's at least how I feel about it. Don't judge me. :lol:
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EXACTLY.

And to CP's point, when I had entertained the possibility that Walt offs Jesse, my very first thought was "I mean, gotta do what you gotta do. *shrug*"
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I get that, I really do. I rooted for Dexter, I rooted for Tony Soprano even tho both were "bad" guys. The cops from The Wire wavered between good and bad, right and wrong. I understand the moral issue, and rooting for the normal guy to get some wins.

But...

Killing Jesse? That's your boy. When you, or I snap, and we say screw it, life is goin my way now, someone rides with you, all the way, and without them, you don't make it two days.

Now you off him?

I'm fine with him killin off this guy or that guy. People that get in the way, cops, feds, whatever. But Jesse has been on his side the whole ride. And we haven't even gotten to what he's already done to Jesse. Hell, if Jesse ices Walt, I won't have one problem with it. But if Walt does Jesse, that won't sit well with me.

Without Jesse, Walt dies of cancer, bein kicked around up until the end. And everytime something goes bad, it goes bad for Jesse, not Walt. Jesse lost his girl, almost lost another one's kid (he thought he was at least) got the hell beat out of him by Tuco, send to Mexico to be a drug slave, got beat down by Hank, etc etc.

Now he's gonna kill him too? That's crossing the line. IMO. I get everyone else Walt takes down, but Jesse is OD.

I felt the same way with Tony and Christopher. I struggled with that. Didn't sit right.
 
What I'm about to say could be summed up real quick by simply pointing out that, in the end, it seems you feel more sorry for Jesse than Walt, where I definitely feel more sorry for Walt than Jesse.

Walt is in this for his family... PERIOD. He started off wanting to leave them wealthy instead of penniless. Now it's go time, and if his focus is still on his immediate family, I'm with him.

Jesse? Has Jesse really been by his side the whole time? Because I remember more than a few times where Jesse wanted no part of Walt. Yes, there have been moments of loyalty, but to say that he has been the PICTURE of loyalty is like saying Sky has been a faithful wife. For the most part, yeah... BUUUUUTTTT...
 
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Homie out here painted this for a Breaking Bad art show a couple weeks back.

oil on matchbook

Joseph Martinez - New Methico
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DarthSka said:
What I'm about to say could be summed up real quick by simply pointing out that, in the end, it seems you feel more sorry for Jesse than Walt, where I definitely feel more sorry for Walt than Jesse.

Walt is in this for his family... PERIOD. He started off wanting to leave them wealthy instead of penniless. Now it's go time, and if his focus is still on his immediate family, I'm with him.

Jesse? Has Jesse really been by his side the whole time? Because I remember more than a few times where Jesse wanted no part of Walt. Yes, there have been moments of loyalty, but to say that he has been the PICTURE of loyalty is like saying Sky has been a faithful wife. For the most part, yeah... BUUUUUTTTT...
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ehhh... not so sure about this.

"I'm in the empire business"

At some point, in the middle of it all, it became about himself and himself only. Only recently has it been about his family and I'm guessing that has everything to do with his cancer coming back.
 
You're definitely right; his pride has definitely fueled a lot of his decisions, but... I mean... isn't 'self' part of one's immediate family?

"Me and mines" = Walter White

Sure, it originally more about 'mine' than 'me' and somewhere along the way it become more about 'me' than 'mine', but in the end, he gives no dambs about anyone else. He can't be TOOO focused on himself, because he knows his time is limited, EXTREMELY limited. He even told Sky recently "Don't make all of this be for nothing" (paraphrased).
 
DarthSka said:
What I'm about to say could be summed up real quick by simply pointing out that, in the end, it seems you feel more sorry for Jesse than Walt, where I definitely feel more sorry for Walt than Jesse.

Walt is in this for his family... PERIOD. He started off wanting to leave them wealthy instead of penniless. Now it's go time, and if his focus is still on his immediate family, I'm with him.

Jesse? Has Jesse really been by his side the whole time? Because I remember more than a few times where Jesse wanted no part of Walt. Yes, there have been moments of loyalty, but to say that he has been the PICTURE of loyalty is like saying Sky has been a faithful wife. For the most part, yeah... BUUUUUTTTT...
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Ehhhhh, he started out with money for him fam, but when the cancer was gone, and he had a ton of money put away, why did he keep going? It wasn't for family anymore.

Saying Walt did all this for his fam is the same as Skylar bein that faithful wife. :lol:


To me, Jesse, thru all the horrible ****, has never ratted out Walt. Has never done a deal without him. Kept Gus from killing him. And so on. Even at their worst, Jesse has always look up to Walt and even to this point, calls him Mr. White. (a form of respect) Jesse respects literally no one else, but he does Mr. White.

Even now. He's throwing gas all over the house, but as we know, the house still stands, so something is going to stop Jesse even tho he is raging over being lied to yet again by Walt.

In a sense, yes, I do feel more for Jesse than I do Walt. Walt got too greedy, Jesse never wanted all this mess, he wanted to make some money, sell some product, and that's that. Everytime he tries to get out, Walt pulls him back in.


HTTB, I tried to be very vague with the Sopranos reference, I know you're still in the middle of it. I wasn't tryin to mess you up.
 
Thanks CP, I appreciate it. Didn't even read your post, though...read one just after it referencing it and shielded my eyes immediately in fear.:lol:
 
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no trolling here but should i seriously watch the sopranos & wire..... ive heard ppl gush over them for yrs but never took the bait

i love BB & soa so if they are like either of those ill be intrested
 
Rewatching Sunday's episode has made me believe even more that the M60 will in fact be for Meth Damon and his family, the way dude was name dropping and spilling the beans at the Diner makes me believe that they will threaten Walt's family if he doesnt come back and cook and he'll have to kill them all.
 
Did yall forget jesse stealing the meth from the superlab to sell himself in rehab to recovering addicts? And he's the good guy here? Remember how he met andrea?
 
:rofl: @ too many things to comment on in those comics.
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:lol: at whoever asked "Did Walt ever quit his job as a teacher?"

He's probably still cashing those checks too.

Scumbag
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MVPlikeKobe24 said:
I think he's been on leave ever since he tried to get at Carmen in his/her office...or was it his classroom. Can you blame him though?
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I just been wondering cuz son hasn't checked in since and is now running his own car wash most of the time :lol:

It hit me when I saw him rush to get to Sky before Hank and when he came in to get the frozen gun. All those little stops to talk to the employees.



ExtRaOrDinaRy SwAg said:
Listening a Breaking Bad podcast and they started questioning if the flash forwards kinda take the sting out of stuff on the show, for example Jesse pouring the gasoline didn't have the same effect cuz we know the house won't burn down since we saw it on the first episode of the season still intact

**** got me thinking of all the flash forwards of the whole series now
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There weren't that many flash forwards in the cold opens though.

I mean you could say we know Walt won't die from cancer in 6 months cuz he comes back to town after turning 52. Hell you could say we know Walt doesn't use the ricin on Carol cuz he said hi to her in the flash forward.

The flash forwards haven't spoiled much.
 
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Wire and Breaking Bad are neck and neck at the moment. (Bad appears to have the edge depending on these final 5 eps)
Sopranos
Mad Men


Then whatever else slots in underneath, Thrones, Boardwalk, Shield, SOA, etc.
First few seasons of Dexter would have had it up here, but they've fallen off enough to drop.


Interesting how Bad and Wire will both tap out at 5 seasons and be ranked 1A or 1B in almost any all time list.
Especially when I think of where Dexter was after Season 4. If they nail down one last season, maybe they make a case for themselves.

Sopranos finished strong, but certainly had a bit of long windedness in their final season (cut in 2)
 
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Wire = BB. Sopranos > SOA by a mile, so yes, definitely must watch.
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Its hard to say Breaking Bad = The Wire

Breaking Bad, IMO, definitely has the better story/narrative and much better acting.

But what sets The Wire apart is in addition to its story, there is all the social commentary and its ambition in breaking down basically every facet of the city of Baltimore and showing the corruption and decay.
 
I feel like Jesse only calls him Mr. White because thats just what he called him in high school, as you do all your teachers.  And Jesse was ready to give Walt up if he got caught after Hank beat the **** out of him.  But Walt being the manipulative man he is gets rid Gale to make room for Jesse, so he wouldn't snitch.  YAY! they're partners again!
 
Consider this. If Jesse is out to kill Walt by any means necessary, then I don't see a problem with Walt killing Jesse. But if Walt kills Jesse because he's afraid he's going to snitch or something, then I see your point of view. I really don't see Walt killing Jesse anyway because as I mentioned earlier, it seems that he has a genuine care for him. They were partners all the way, they went through a lot together, and Walt understands that. Walt almost considers him as extended family. So it wouldn’t sit well with me but again, as Darth said, you gotta do what you gotta do.
 
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