Breaking Bad Thread - "El Camino" - A Breaking Bad Movie on Netflix 10/11

Joe Cool23 said:

What if Jesse started cooking again? That would hit Walt where he lives because Jesse would be making money off Walt's idea (ego). Or better yet what if he undercut Lydia and company, and just gave away the recipe?

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Hand2HandKing said:

hank was willing and ready to sacrifice jesse to catch walt.  he has treated jesse worse throughout this show than walt ever has.

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Mr. White is the devil, Jesse? This episode left me with the inescapable conclusion that Mr. Gilligan is the devil. Look what he’s done. While we’ve all been distracted with plot and staging and character, he’s quietly maneuvered all the pieces and motivations into position to produce another heartbreaking situation—the most painful one I can imagine for this stage of the series. After all that Walt has done to Jesse, after everything Walt has taken from Jesse, he’s still the only person who cares anything about what happens to Jesse. The only one. This cancer-ridden, deceit-filled, arrogant husk of a man is all Jesse has left.

In terms of the Breaking Bad narrative arc, Walt’s most unforgivable sins are the occasions when he has taken advantage of Jesse and used him for his own purposes. By scheming to distance Jesse from anyone else who might command his loyalty or love, Walt has made sure that his young protégé remains a tool that only he can wield. By asking him to kill Gale, by making him think he’s responsible for Brock’s illness, by failing to deliver again and again on assurances that nobody will get hurt, Walt has dealt blow after blow of betrayal to Jesse’s psyche, injuries that only someone you trust can inflict. Jesse lost the last shred of that trust when he pieced together the ricin cigarette gambit. And ironically, at the same time, everyone else who might stand up for Jesse turns away to their own selfish motives, and only Walt is left defending him.

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As the jaws of the vice tighten, the two families pushing Walt and Jesse closer and closer together, I feel sympathy for Walt for the first time in ages. And there’s a pang of nostalgia, a twinge of vain hope that finding themselves similarly at the mercy of others, they will find a way to join forces. As I exulted back in season 4’s “End Times,” there’s nothing more exhilarating than a Walt-Jesse team-up, even when it’s based on a monumental web of lies. When the two fail to meet on the plaza, that hope dies, dashed by justifiable paranoia and by a surfeit of puppeteers pulling at their strings. Not much time is left, and nothing we’ve seen in the flash-forward indicates that Jesse is in the picture. I’m still pulling for a reveal like the one in this episode where Saul’s abandoned car and Jesse’s abandoned gas can turn out to be Hank’s doing. Breaking Bad started with the Walt and Jesse joining forces. I can’t help but wish that it would end the same way. And I never thought I’d say it, but: Justice be damned. Call off the war. Nobody needs to win. It seems the only route to victory is scorched earth, deaths merited and collateral, and the irretrievable end of all the relationships that have steadily eroded over these five seasons, especially Walt and Jesse. I don’t think I can take it.

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ScottHallWithAPick said:

If DEA/Jesse kills Todd Lydia and the Czechs aren't gonna like that and Walt is gonna have to get back in the kitchen or else.

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JoeClear said:

Joe Cool23 said:

What if Jesse started cooking again? That would hit Walt where he lives because Jesse would be making money off Walt's idea (ego). Or better yet what if he undercut Lydia and company, and just gave away the recipe?

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Did you miss the part with him working with the Hank ? Jesse is out the drug game right now

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Mcflyy said:

I guess I'll put this in the spoiler since some people probably don't wanna know the names of the episodes.

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

So the title for the next episode is To’hajiilee. It's the place where Walt & Jesse began their Meth journey and where Walt's money is buried.
**** is about to go DOWN.

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Mcflyy said:

I guess I'll put this in the spoiler since some people probably don't wanna know the names of the episodes.

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

So the title for the next episode is To’hajiilee. It's the place where Walt & Jesse began their Meth journey and where Walt's money is buried.
**** is about to go DOWN.

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Big J 33 said:

From the AV Club
http://www.avclub.com/articles/rabid-dog,101876/

Mr. White is the devil, Jesse? This episode left me with the inescapable conclusion that Mr. Gilligan is the devil. Look what he’s done. While we’ve all been distracted with plot and staging and character, he’s quietly maneuvered all the pieces and motivations into position to produce another heartbreaking situation—the most painful one I can imagine for this stage of the series. After all that Walt has done to Jesse, after everything Walt has taken from Jesse, he’s still the only person who cares anything about what happens to Jesse. The only one. This cancer-ridden, deceit-filled, arrogant husk of a man is all Jesse has left.

In terms of the Breaking Bad narrative arc, Walt’s most unforgivable sins are the occasions when he has taken advantage of Jesse and used him for his own purposes. By scheming to distance Jesse from anyone else who might command his loyalty or love, Walt has made sure that his young protégé remains a tool that only he can wield. By asking him to kill Gale, by making him think he’s responsible for Brock’s illness, by failing to deliver again and again on assurances that nobody will get hurt, Walt has dealt blow after blow of betrayal to Jesse’s psyche, injuries that only someone you trust can inflict. Jesse lost the last shred of that trust when he pieced together the ricin cigarette gambit. And ironically, at the same time, everyone else who might stand up for Jesse turns away to their own selfish motives, and only Walt is left defending him.

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As the jaws of the vice tighten, the two families pushing Walt and Jesse closer and closer together, I feel sympathy for Walt for the first time in ages. And there’s a pang of nostalgia, a twinge of vain hope that finding themselves similarly at the mercy of others, they will find a way to join forces. As I exulted back in season 4’s “End Times,” there’s nothing more exhilarating than a Walt-Jesse team-up, even when it’s based on a monumental web of lies. When the two fail to meet on the plaza, that hope dies, dashed by justifiable paranoia and by a surfeit of puppeteers pulling at their strings. Not much time is left, and nothing we’ve seen in the flash-forward indicates that Jesse is in the picture. I’m still pulling for a reveal like the one in this episode where Saul’s abandoned car and Jesse’s abandoned gas can turn out to be Hank’s doing. Breaking Bad started with the Walt and Jesse joining forces. I can’t help but wish that it would end the same way. And I never thought I’d say it, but: Justice be damned. Call off the war. Nobody needs to win. It seems the only route to victory is scorched earth, deaths merited and collateral, and the irretrievable end of all the relationships that have steadily eroded over these five seasons, especially Walt and Jesse. I don’t think I can take it.

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The first two paragraphs make a good point and one reason why the show is so great. The last one is how I kind of feel as we've approached the final episodes.

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"You know, I feel so lucky that there is such an attention to detail with regards to the show. I feel humbled when I hear a great many of the theories and observations that the fans come up with. I feel undeserving because half the time some of the observations about the show speak to a level of attention to detail that we were never able to give those moments - we get a lot of credit for levels of brilliance that were unintentional at best! At best some of those moments were most likely subconscious or just dumb luck on our part."

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Big J 33 said:

The last one is how I kind of feel as we've approached the final episodes.

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HarlemToTheBronx said:

Mcflyy said:

I guess I'll put this in the spoiler since some people probably don't wanna know the names of the episodes.

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

So the title for the next episode is To’hajiilee. It's the place where Walt & Jesse began their Meth journey and where Walt's money is buried.
**** is about to go DOWN.

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Big J 33 said:

What's your point?

Give it a rest already.

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FinallyFamous said:

Has there be any word of the laat 4 episodes being longer than 9:00-10:04?

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FinallyFamous said:

Has there be any word of the laat 4 episodes being longer than 9:00-10:04?

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