Breaking Bad Thread - "El Camino" - A Breaking Bad Movie on Netflix 10/11

I wonder if Walt will do another vid or contact JR. to finally tell him the truth. He put on that act but I can't think he wants to die without the real truth being told. Alo wonder if he'll tell Marie where Hank's body is buried.
 
My prediction: Blue Meth reammerges. Walt sees that Jesse is still alive. Gets the Ricin to poison the Aryans the same way Gus poisoned the Cartel.

He saves Jesse and for repayment for saving him, Walt begs Jesse to kill him to put him out of his misery because he doesn't have his family, name or empire anymore.
 
Yea I hope walt makes another tape for his fam just telling them about everything including how he didn't kill hank and that he offered everything he had to save him...on the other hand they wouldn't know what to believe since he's lied to them multiple times in the past...however it ends I just hope that sky and jr know that he really did mostly everything for them
 
Yall forgetting about the tape jesse snitched on, I bet marie finds it and I bet he implicated the aryans or todd goes to jail for killing spider kid
 
here's a comment i read online (at Grantland). i thought it was solid and agreed 100%.

Walt still hasn't crossed a red line. He's still working tirelessly to protect his family and those he considers family.

I'll start with Hank. Walt offered Uncle Jack every red cent in that desert not to kill Hank. Not all but $11 million. All of it. I believe the anguish in Walt's eyes after Hank was murdered was genuine. Throughout the show, we've seen that Walt's greed overpowers almost every single human emotion or ambition he has. That's what led him to that shootout in the desert in the first place. But here, when faced with the death of a family member--a death that would, essentially, be a death blow to his entire family--Walt gives up all of his money. That speaks volumes to me about how far Walt is willing to go to save Hank.

To Jesse. You don't think Walt knew Jesse was there the entire time after the initial shootout? After Jack killed Hank, Walt felt fear for the first time since Gus Fring. That's when he, as you put it, put his thinking cap on. Walt is a master schemer. That's peppered throughout the show. Walt knew that Todd and Jack would hurt Jesse, but with Walt out of the picture, they would have to keep him alive. He had to cook. In a twisted way, this was Walt protecting Jesse, yet again. Even after the back-and-forth betrayal. If he genuinely turned a corner and wanted Jesse dead, why rid himseslf of the guilt about Jane? Why wouldn't he just keep that in his pocket? No. Walt is protecting Jesse, here. And the flash-forwards? Walt's making his way back to the ABQ to save Jesse and kill Jack. It all makes sense.

Finally, Walt's family. After they both turned on him, Walt realized that he could no longer be there to protect them. He took Holly because, well, he could. And Holly was the one member of his family who didn't know him as Heisenberg, who hadn't turned on him. For that brief moment, Walt instincitvely fought for the one family member who didn't want him dead or in jail. He obviously later realized that he couldn't take care of her. As far as the phone call goes, I think what you said about him channeling the guilt is only part of the equation. Again, he's also protecting his family. Threatening to kill Skyler while a dozen cops are in the room was a callous, but calculated move. In doing that, he assures himself that the police will be guarding his family day and night while he is at large. Uncle Jack won't be able to get to them to get to him. It's brilliant on Walt's part. Those tears and cries that had to be masked showed the true humanity of Walter White. He's not entirely a monster.

In the end, I think we'll see that Walter White is still about what Walter White has always been about--family. Everyone is so quick to turn against Walt. Honestly, I flipped on Walt about four different times during this episode alone. But the end brought it all back. This show is all about the lengths we will go to do right by our families. Walter White just goes a little bit farther than most. I don't think he should be entirely written off as "the devil" because of it.
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^^^ I completely disagree about Jesse. The Aryans were walking away, Jesse wasn't even on their mind anymore. Walt spotted Jesse, choose to tell them he stilled owed them Pinkman.

Jack was about to pull the trigger and Walk wasn't going to say a peep. It was Todd who stopped the execution. Then Walk probably realized what time it was and took Hank's advice not to negotiate with Jack because he probably made up his mind.

Telling him about Jane was the final knife in the heart Walt could give Jesse because he would have the satisfaction of seeing Jesse I die.

Now after the knife scene, when he changes back into Walter White after being Heisenberg for so long. Maybe then he feels different about sending Jesse to his death.

-My prediction: Walt poisons Todd and kills the Aryans. Jesse shoots and kills Walt then informs on Lydia to get off any charges
 
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pianoman52 said:
here's a comment i read online (at Grantland). i thought it was solid and agreed 100%.

Walt still hasn't crossed a red line. He's still working tirelessly to protect his family and those he considers family.

I'll start with Hank. Walt offered Uncle Jack every red cent in that desert not to kill Hank. Not all but $11 million. All of it. I believe the anguish in Walt's eyes after Hank was murdered was genuine. Throughout the show, we've seen that Walt's greed overpowers almost every single human emotion or ambition he has. That's what led him to that shootout in the desert in the first place. But here, when faced with the death of a family member--a death that would, essentially, be a death blow to his entire family--Walt gives up all of his money. That speaks volumes to me about how far Walt is willing to go to save Hank.

To Jesse. You don't think Walt knew Jesse was there the entire time after the initial shootout? After Jack killed Hank, Walt felt fear for the first time since Gus Fring. That's when he, as you put it, put his thinking cap on. Walt is a master schemer. That's peppered throughout the show. Walt knew that Todd and Jack would hurt Jesse, but with Walt out of the picture, they would have to keep him alive. He had to cook. In a twisted way, this was Walt protecting Jesse, yet again. Even after the back-and-forth betrayal. If he genuinely turned a corner and wanted Jesse dead, why rid himseslf of the guilt about Jane? Why wouldn't he just keep that in his pocket? No. Walt is protecting Jesse, here. And the flash-forwards? Walt's making his way back to the ABQ to save Jesse and kill Jack. It all makes sense.

Finally, Walt's family. After they both turned on him, Walt realized that he could no longer be there to protect them. He took Holly because, well, he could. And Holly was the one member of his family who didn't know him as Heisenberg, who hadn't turned on him. For that brief moment, Walt instincitvely fought for the one family member who didn't want him dead or in jail. He obviously later realized that he couldn't take care of her. As far as the phone call goes, I think what you said about him channeling the guilt is only part of the equation. Again, he's also protecting his family. Threatening to kill Skyler while a dozen cops are in the room was a callous, but calculated move. In doing that, he assures himself that the police will be guarding his family day and night while he is at large. Uncle Jack won't be able to get to them to get to him. It's brilliant on Walt's part. Those tears and cries that had to be masked showed the true humanity of Walter White. He's not entirely a monster.

In the end, I think we'll see that Walter White is still about what Walter White has always been about--family. Everyone is so quick to turn against Walt. Honestly, I flipped on Walt about four different times during this episode alone. But the end brought it all back. This show is all about the lengths we will go to do right by our families. Walter White just goes a little bit farther than most. I don't think he should be entirely written off as "the devil" because of it.
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Like it.

But if Walt puts the M60 to Jesse's head and squeezes then this whole idea is toiletpaper.
 
I have a question that I'm fuzzy on.

Walt been in the game a year. Year and a half if we stretch it.

He has 80 mil just like that.



Gus ran his business for how long? 20 years or somethin like that. I understand he had a few more expenses, and such, but damn, what kind of money did he have when he passed? We ever hear a number, even a rough estimate?
 
big1236 said:
When Walt left Holly at the Fire Station, I saw there was a note, was it their home address?

Or did Walt 'give her up' so that she can be raised by somebody else?
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There's an amber alert out for her... Ain't no way that baby going anywhere but back to Skyler.
 
ai3mac1 said:
 
Does The Wire really compare to this show? If it does, then I'm about to cop every season of The Wire very soon.

I've seen the first 2 episodes and couldn't get into it, but everyone's saying Breaking Bad and The Wire are just as good
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Keep watching it and you'll probably end up loving it.  I copped the box set for like $50 at Target last holiday season and was all amped to watch it.  Popped Season 1 into the PS3 and had to will myself through the first 2 episodes.  I just didn't get "it", so I didn't return to it for another 6 or 7 months.  Got bored this summer and started watching it again and I was hooked.

Like BB, it isn't a show you can just casually watch.  You have to really pay attention and invest your time into it.  But the payoff for doing so is well worth it, IMO.  
 
CoolNClutch said:
The Wire and Breaking Bad are two completely different types of shows so it's pretty hard to compare them. It's like comparing Wayne Gretzky to Michael Jordan.
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Bad analogy. There is a debate whether Michael is the greatest basketball player of all time, there is absolutely no argument that Wayne is the greatest player in hockey history.

I feel that BB has definitely surpassed The Wire & has now surpassed the Sopranos as well.
 
CP1708 said:
I have a question that I'm fuzzy on.

Walt been in the game a year. Year and a half if we stretch it.

He has 80 mil just like that.



Gus ran his business for how long? 20 years or somethin like that. I understand he had a few more expenses, and such, but damn, what kind of money did he have when he passed? We ever hear a number, even a rough estimate?
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Jesse called Walt out about how piss poor of a deal he agreed to with Gus. He initially sold 38 lbs of the blue for 1.2 mil so roughly $31.6K per pound. Under Gus' deal (3 mil for 3 months) he had to produce 200 lbs per week so he was earning about $1250 a lb. Now Gus had to recoup the overhead of the lab construction, cost of materials, etc. and Walt was (in theory) cooking in a risk free environment as opposed to the threat of being found out in the RV thanks to Gus' arrangement so it's expected that his take would drop. But there's a huge divide between $31,600 and $1250.

With Declan gone they're the sole suppliers so they raise the price to say $35K per pound and knocking out 150 lbs weekly w/ Vamanos. Over maybe 4 months and straight wholesale to the Czechs that's a cool $84 mil. I thought it was a crazy # too until I thought a little more about it.

Don't forget Walt ain't have nothing really as recently as when Benecke got his money via Skyler, otherwise they would have purchased a Hoover Max Extract. When Walt has the mobile labs rolling it essentially was a money fountain. Remember Sky said she couldn't even launder anything anymore because too much was coming in.

As far as Gus' money I wouldn't be surprised for it to come up somehow. Remember in the magnets episode the broken frame of Gus' photo showed some GPS coordinates. They wouldn't show that scene for no reason, just like the Andrea/Brock/Walt scene was to set up something bigger than it seemed upon the first watch
 
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I love Breaking Bad but it is not better than the Sopranos.

The Sopranos was a revolutionary show. It was the show that kicked off the whole "rooting for the bad guy" thing.
 
those picture coordinates will def come up

wouldnt be surprised if gus was sitting on a couple 100m's
 
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as much as i liked sopranos, and it was one of the first drama series of its kind, it did copy a lot of its stuff from goodfellas. and there were wayy to many episodes that were pointless.

breaking bad is next level. story , acting, directing is unmatched
 
mosdef24 said:
as much as i liked sopranos, and it was one of the first drama series of its kind, it did copy a lot of its stuff from goodfellas. and there were wayy to many episodes that were pointless.

breaking bad is next level. story , acting, directing is unmatched
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Yep.

And AJ's storyline...
 
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