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Magic, Jordan, Kobe and Lebron Vol. First RING numbers.
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This guy...
Not sure if troll or just stupid...
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I mean, that top 5 list he posted does have some credibility and stands up to criticism.
The only way I could see Kobe sliding into that top 5 is if you make the argument that Wilt's best years came when he was with Philly.
The only way I could see Kobe sliding into that top 5 is if you make the argument that Wilt's best years came when he was with Philly.
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The salt is strong in this one
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From what I've read wilt didn't elevate his game that much when it mattered most. While being so much more physically gifted.
But the stats are absurd.
And yeah Kobe is amazing and one of the best of an era but that list isnt troll material. I mean where does jeter get placed on the Yankees?
But the stats are absurd.
And yeah Kobe is amazing and one of the best of an era but that list isnt troll material. I mean where does jeter get placed on the Yankees?
do be doo
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Yeah you could but with out Wilt the Logo never wins a ring.
Wilt also won Finals MVP that year.
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This is the only reason why I have Kobe in the Laker Top 5 All Time, otherwise hes the sixth man.
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Shaq was a laker for a weekend compaired to kobe. I say kobe takes shaqs spot in that top 5 list.
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Michael
Russell
Magic
Kareem
Kobe
Duncan
Shaq
Bird
...if Lebron doesn't end up with 3 or more championships, which is highly doubtful, I don't see him surpassing anyone on that list.
Russell
Magic
Kareem
Kobe
Duncan
Shaq
Bird
...if Lebron doesn't end up with 3 or more championships, which is highly doubtful, I don't see him surpassing anyone on that list.
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Jordan also averaged 11 assists that finals...
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Kobe averaged 15.6 PPG & 4.6 RPG in his first Finals in 2000. How does ESPN get this wrong!? Lol
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Originally Posted by FudgeMoney24
This guy...
Not sure if troll or just stupid...
Just stupid.
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Those are Kobe's numbers against Philly which was his second title, not his first.
He averaged a shade under 16 against Indy in '00. Getting hurt in G2 & his miserable G5 hurt his average.
A little surprised that the Worldwide Leader screwed that up.
He averaged a shade under 16 against Indy in '00. Getting hurt in G2 & his miserable G5 hurt his average.
A little surprised that the Worldwide Leader screwed that up.
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He'll surpass kobe & shaq with 3 rings but im not sure about the rest of the list tho
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Hell yeah. 5 > 3
Only Lakers that are higher than Kobe is Kareem and Magic.
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no he'll definitely surpass kobe stop the foolery
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Leading a 3peat while being the most dominant player in the league since MJ >>> Leading a 2peat
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Dude has 1 ring in 9 years. Who's really being foolish?
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When you add everything in Im still going with Kobe. Shaq was the most dominate player but Kobe was puttin up big numbers during that 3peat. Kobe was puttin up 21, 29 and 26 during those playoff runs. The Laker records he holds, leading them to the finals 3 straight years and winning 2 of 'em. All of the clutch moments. Ima roll with that.
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Best laker ever is such an obscure argument, how do you quantify it, do you go by peak performance or longevity. If you got by peak performance then it's.
Kareem
Shaq
Magic
Kobe
Logo
But if you go by body of work it's probably:
Magic
Kobe
Logo
Kareem
Shaq.
either way Kobe is still in the top 5.
but there is no logical argument that can be made for kobe being in the top 5 greatest players ever.
Kareem
Shaq
Magic
Kobe
Logo
But if you go by body of work it's probably:
Magic
Kobe
Logo
Kareem
Shaq.
either way Kobe is still in the top 5.
but there is no logical argument that can be made for kobe being in the top 5 greatest players ever.
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Why isn't Shaqs numbers up there for comparison?
Kobe 2000 finals
game 1: 14 points on 13 shots.
game 2: scored 2 points and played 9 minutes due to an injury
game 3: didn't play
game 4: This was the game when Kobe stepped up and hit some big shots in over time. Kobe played pretty good and this game and had 28 points on 51% shooting, but Shaq had 36 points and 21 rebounds.
game 5: scored 8 points on 4-20 shots (20 FG%)
game 6: 8-27 shooting (29 FG%)
Compare that to Shaq's performance in the 2000 Finals.
Shaq averaged 38 points, 17 rebounds, 3 blocks and 2 assists on 61% shooting
Game 1: 43 points, 19 rebounds, 4 assists and 3 blocks 67% shooting
Game 2: 40 points, 24 rebounds, 4 assists and 3 blocks 61%shooting
Game 3: 33 points, 13 rebounds, 2 blocks 62% shooting
Game 4: 36 points, 21 rebounds, 2 blocks, 2 steals 52% shooting
Game 5: 35 points, 11 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 blocks, 2 steals 63% shooting
Game 6: 41 points, 12 rebounds, 4 blocks 59% shooting
Shaq won Finals MVP carrying the Los Angeles Lakers to there first championship in 12 years.
It cracks me up how almost all Laker fans look for reasons to make Shaq worse and hate on him despite the fact that he made your team relevant again and led them to 3 championships.
Kobe 2000 finals
game 1: 14 points on 13 shots.
game 2: scored 2 points and played 9 minutes due to an injury
game 3: didn't play
game 4: This was the game when Kobe stepped up and hit some big shots in over time. Kobe played pretty good and this game and had 28 points on 51% shooting, but Shaq had 36 points and 21 rebounds.
game 5: scored 8 points on 4-20 shots (20 FG%)
game 6: 8-27 shooting (29 FG%)
Compare that to Shaq's performance in the 2000 Finals.
Shaq averaged 38 points, 17 rebounds, 3 blocks and 2 assists on 61% shooting
Game 1: 43 points, 19 rebounds, 4 assists and 3 blocks 67% shooting
Game 2: 40 points, 24 rebounds, 4 assists and 3 blocks 61%shooting
Game 3: 33 points, 13 rebounds, 2 blocks 62% shooting
Game 4: 36 points, 21 rebounds, 2 blocks, 2 steals 52% shooting
Game 5: 35 points, 11 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 blocks, 2 steals 63% shooting
Game 6: 41 points, 12 rebounds, 4 blocks 59% shooting
Shaq won Finals MVP carrying the Los Angeles Lakers to there first championship in 12 years.
It cracks me up how almost all Laker fans look for reasons to make Shaq worse and hate on him despite the fact that he made your team relevant again and led them to 3 championships.
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damn you nike!
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^ I guess that list is only about great guards. I don't know any Laker fans that hate on Shaq. I know some like myself that wish him and had Kobe had put thier BS aside but I don't hear any that try to discredit what he did.