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post #301 of 13952
7/24/12 at 1:29pm
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Originally Posted by eiddyfouw View Post

According to the Fantasy Premier League stats, he was 29th lol. (these stats include, minutes played, goals scored, goals conceded, clean sheets, yellow cards, red cards, penalties made, assists etc)
Top 5 defenders were:
Evra
Kompany
Walker
Terry
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list voided when i saw EVRA.. im a united fan but he was horrible last yr.. HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!
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post #302 of 13952
7/24/12 at 2:22pm
  • Manchester City boss Roberto Mancini is worried he has lost the initiative in the race to sign Arsenal striker Robin van Persie, 28.
  • And Mancini is furious with City's bosses as Van Persie looks set to slip away from him.
  • Feyenoord coach Ronald Koeman has given Aston Villa a week to sort out a deal to buy defender Ron Vlaar, 27.
  • Sir Alex Ferguson has revealed he considered bringing Didier Drogba to Old Trafford during the summer after the striker, 34, left Chelsea.
  • Fulham are also apparently considering a bid for Dutchman Babel.
  • Andy Carroll has told Liverpool they will not force him to leave Anfield.
  • Zenit St Petersburg have joined the race to sign Liverpool defender Martin Skrtel, 27, with Manchester City and Napoli also interested.
  • Nottingham Forest want to bring Jermaine Jenas, 29, back to the City Ground as they look to land the Tottenham midfielder.
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post #303 of 13952
7/24/12 at 2:27pm

:lol at the Messi in duct tape

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post #304 of 13952
7/24/12 at 2:46pm
Got a chance to meet the team today. Got some pics of the Belgians, Ashley Cole's terrible new cut, and the Brasilians and Fernando.

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And the final result...

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post #305 of 13952
7/24/12 at 3:26pm
laugh.gif Messi, Pique is a funny dude
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post #306 of 13952
7/24/12 at 4:19pm
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Originally Posted by eiddyfouw View Post

According to the Fantasy Premier League stats, he was 29th lol. (these stats include, minutes played, goals scored, goals conceded, clean sheets, yellow cards, red cards, penalties made, assists etc)
Top 5 defenders were:
Evra
Kompany
Walker
Terry
Assou-Kotto

Dude most traditional statistics are worthless. We're really going to use converted penalties and assist to rate the quality of a CB? and there's no point in comparing modern fullbacks with center backs, the vast majority of fullbacks today play more like traditional wingers than defenders.

Advanced performance metrics like Opta Stats aren't perfect yet but they offer much better data points for objectively evaluating players.

Personally I was very impressed with Koscielny last season. Highly mobile, physically strong, good brain and a bit of nastiness to him. Idk if I'd rate him as high as #2 in the EPL but he was definitely in my top 5 at the CB position.

BUT based strictly off Opta stats a strong case can be made that Koscielny was a top 2 CB.

He lead EPL defenders in minutes per tackle, interceptions, and balls won in the defensive third. He also bested Terry in just about every stat except % of Aerial 50-50's won and pass completion %.

Statistically he was a top CB last season. If he replicates the positives from last season, cuts down on the defensive errors, and takes a little bit more care with the ball, he's gonna get his plaudits.

Either way fantastic long term signing for Arsenal.
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post #307 of 13952
7/24/12 at 8:02pm
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Originally Posted by TheGoogler View Post

Henry, Cooper, LeToux, Lindepere and now Cahill. NYRB are stacked.

gonna be interested what lineup hans backe uses..

Henry----Cooper----Cahill

Lindpere---Rafa marquez----mcdonalds

?

insight from a new york fan would be helpful.
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post #308 of 13952
7/24/12 at 8:28pm
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Originally Posted by hugebird View Post

Got a chance to meet the team today. Got some pics of the Belgians, Ashley Cole's terrible new cut, and the Brasilians and Fernando.
N5CEU.jpg?1
2gZTp.jpg?1
QSOED.jpg?1
And the final result...
4sPQP.jpg?1

so damn jealous.. would have loved to have gotten one of my chelsea jerseys signed by the team..
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post #309 of 13952
7/24/12 at 8:42pm
Anyone going to the Madrid Galaxy game? I'll be there solo Ftl but it's all good.
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post #310 of 13952
7/24/12 at 10:34pm
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gonna be interested what lineup hans backe uses..
Henry----Cooper----Cahill
Lindpere---Rafa marquez----mcdonalds
?
insight from a new york fan would be helpful.



Dax McCarty has been playing very well lately at the holding mid spot, I'm guessing Marquez drops back to CB opposed to replacing him.
Henry - - - - - Cooper
Cahill
Lindpere/Lade - - - - - - - - - - - - - - LeToux
McCarty
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post #311 of 13952
7/25/12 at 1:36am
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Dude most traditional statistics are worthless. We're really going to use converted penalties and assist to rate the quality of a CB? and there's no point in comparing modern fullbacks with center backs, the vast majority of fullbacks today play more like traditional wingers than defenders.
Advanced performance metrics like Opta Stats aren't perfect yet but they offer much better data points for objectively evaluating players.
Personally I was very impressed with Koscielny last season. Highly mobile, physically strong, good brain and a bit of nastiness to him. Idk if I'd rate him as high as #2 in the EPL but he was definitely in my top 5 at the CB position.
BUT based strictly off Opta stats a strong case can be made that Koscielny was a top 2 CB.
He lead EPL defenders in minutes per tackle, interceptions, and balls won in the defensive third. He also bested Terry in just about every stat except % of Aerial 50-50's won and pass completion %.
Statistically he was a top CB last season. If he replicates the positives from last season, cuts down on the defensive errors, and takes a little bit more care with the ball, he's gonna get his plaudits.
Either way fantastic long term signing for Arsenal.

I remember watching a lot of Arsenal games last season. He looked decent out there. I thought Vermaelan looked sharp out there too.
Kos stuck out for me in a few games, but not enough for me to rate him as high as Opta did.

As for Evra, I think he was oooookay, but the times when he dropped the ball were so damn blatant and crucial it warrants SAF looking into a replacement. Against City he was sick.gifmean.gif I figure Baines will come, especially with the bid for Moura being rejected. (My guess is SAF will push for Sahin & Baines- now that Spurs are trying to tie another RM player to Modric deal)
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post #312 of 13952
7/25/12 at 1:41am
Jordi Alba will he or will he not make an impact on Barcas 4 back?
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post #313 of 13952
7/25/12 at 1:41am
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Wigan manager Roberto Martinez could beat Everton, Sunderland, Aston Villa and Celtic to sign Real Mallorca centre-back Ivan Ramis, 27

Everton defender Johnny Heitinga, 28, is set to move to Turkish side Fenerbahce in a £5m deal within the next few days

Loic Remy is moving closer to joining Newcastle after they contacted his club Marseille with a view to signing the £15m-rated France striker. (if this is true, Newcastle are going to be VERY interesting to watch this season) smokin.gifsmokin.gifsmokin.gifsmokin.gif

Roma have edged ahead of Chelsea and Manchester United in the race to sign Benfica midfielder Axel Witsel, 23.

Oscar, 20, is edging nearer his move to Chelsea according to Internacional's president Giovanni Luigi, who claims discussions are at an advanced stage.
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post #314 of 13952
7/25/12 at 3:19am
I haven't seen that much of Oscar, is he really that good? I don't know if we need him because Mata and Hazard can play the #10 role.
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post #315 of 13952
7/25/12 at 4:37am
He's an excellent young player. He'll be able to pull the strings from the hole better than Mata and Hazard because he's adept with both feet. That attribute along with his vision and ability to maintain/recycle possession makes him an ideal playmaker. Some problems may arise with width as you'll have three players who drift towards the middle, but since they'll be playing a variation of the 4-3-3 the width should be provided by the FBs. (though aside from Cashley, I don't know how well the other FBs will fare in that role)
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post #316 of 13952
7/25/12 at 5:26am

Nick Powell... scuff of the pre-season... mean.gif

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post #317 of 13952
7/25/12 at 5:55am
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He's an excellent young player. He'll be able to pull the strings from the hole better than Mata and Hazard because he's adept with both feet. That attribute along with his vision and ability to maintain/recycle possession makes him an ideal playmaker. Some problems may arise with width as you'll have three players who drift towards the middle, but since they'll be playing a variation of the 4-3-3 the width should be provided by the FBs. (though aside from Cashley, I don't know how well the other FBs will fare in that role)

They'll probably stick with 4-2-3-1 actually. Lampard is set to play holding mid with Ramires so we'd have Mata, Hazard and Meireles as our 3 front mids, which will make for a very fluid and creative offensive attack running at a frenetic pace. Having all 3 of Marin, Malouda and Oscar (not sure if he is currently signed or not but it seems imminent) on the bench is very key too as all of them are more than capable of stepping in and not missing a beat. Really like what Chelsea has done this summer. In a perfect offseason, we would've grabbed Hulk and another defender but I'm more than satisfied with what the front office has done.

Speaking of Hulk, those Porto fees are absolutely ridiculous. laugh.gif

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post #318 of 13952
7/25/12 at 6:09am
Interesting that Shenhua decide to rest Drogba and Anelka

Dull game thus far, although Kagawa has shown some nice touches
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post #319 of 13952
7/25/12 at 6:31am

Kagawa shoots, he scores! Assisted by Bebe... ~!

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post #320 of 13952
7/25/12 at 7:21am
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Transfer Spec:
Wigan manager Roberto Martinez could beat Everton, Sunderland, Aston Villa and Celtic to sign Real Mallorca centre-back Ivan Ramis, 27
Everton defender Johnny Heitinga, 28, is set to move to Turkish side Fenerbahce in a £5m deal within the next few days
Loic Remy is moving closer to joining Newcastle after they contacted his club Marseille with a view to signing the £15m-rated France striker. (if this is true, Newcastle are going to be VERY interesting to watch this season) smokin.gifsmokin.gifsmokin.gifsmokin.gif
Roma have edged ahead of Chelsea and Manchester United in the race to sign Benfica midfielder Axel Witsel, 23.
Oscar, 20, is edging nearer his move to Chelsea according to Internacional's president Giovanni Luigi, who claims discussions are at an advanced stage.

I HIGHLY doubt we have the funds for him.


Oh but Benfica might want Jose Angle nerd.gif
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post #321 of 13952
7/25/12 at 8:12am
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Interesting that Shenhua decide to rest Drogba and Anelka
Dull game thus far, although Kagawa has shown some nice touches

He showed some nice touches in Cape Town too.

I think with time and Rooney and co will really help bring out his talent..

He seems to have a great ability to hold onto the ball...
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post #322 of 13952
7/25/12 at 8:26am
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They'll probably stick with 4-2-3-1 actually. Lampard is set to play holding mid with Ramires so we'd have Mata, Hazard and Meireles as our 3 front mids, which will make for a very fluid and creative offensive attack running at a frenetic pace. Having all 3 of Marin, Malouda and Oscar (not sure if he is currently signed or not but it seems imminent) on the bench is very key too as all of them are more than capable of stepping in and not missing a beat. Really like what Chelsea has done this summer. In a perfect offseason, we would've grabbed Hulk and another defender but I'm more than satisfied with what the front office has done.
Speaking of Hulk, those Porto fees are absolutely ridiculous. laugh.gif

Not saying that you're all that wrong, but RDM doesn't seem to be keen to play Ramires as one of the pivots, and I think the pairing of Lampard/Meireles/McEachran with Mikel/Essien/Romeu is going to be the more likely setup. Though I don't like it, personally RDM seems to like to play Ramires wide right, and while he doesn't necessarily possess the passing ability needed for the possesion based attack that we seemingly seem to be striving for, I think he sees him as a huge threat on the counter, and possibly a piece to assist in defense with the amount of attack minded players they will have in the side.

I honestly don't believe that Malouda will be in the team by the time that the season begins, and I think that KDB will perform the duties that Malouda has recently, with his ability to play on the flanks or centrally. I would still love to see a piece like Willian or Jovetic brought in and an RB like Azilpilicueta, and I think that the club would be in excellent shape.
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post #323 of 13952
7/25/12 at 9:16am
From what I heard Oscar to Chelsea done for 25m today.
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post #324 of 13952
7/25/12 at 9:57am
Yea, ESPN tweeted that it was done. The Thorgan deal was done yesterday, not sure if it was mentioned.
Bale might be facing a ban until Aug 12. He said he couldn't play for Team GB due to an injury and was playing against the LA Galaxy yesterday.
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post #325 of 13952
7/25/12 at 10:44am
Watching some of the female matches for the Olympics

USA looking sharp with 4-2 right now...
I thought I was going to see some sexy football with Brazil...now that I see them lining up for the anthems, all I can hope for is some good football now ohwell.gif


Btw, I'm wondering, surely there has to be a female player far above the rest....

Who is the Ronaldo/Messi of womens football? Is there one?
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post #326 of 13952
7/25/12 at 10:52am
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Watching some of the female matches for the Olympics
USA looking sharp with 4-2 right now...
I thought I was going to see some sexy football with Brazil...now that I see them lining up for the anthems, all I can hope for is some good football now ohwell.gif
Btw, I'm wondering, surely there has to be a female player far above the rest....
Who is the Ronaldo/Messi of womens football? Is there one?

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post #327 of 13952
7/25/12 at 10:53am

^ Marta, I guess?

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post #328 of 13952
7/25/12 at 10:54am
  • Arsenal are closing in on the signing of Spain's Santi Cazorla, 27, after the Malaga midfielder agreed terms with the Gunners.
  • Joe Allen, 22, can leave Swansea for £15m thanks to a clause in his contract but only to a 'top five' club, which includes Liverpool.
  • Paris Saint-Germain are ready to outbid Real Madrid for Tottenham midfielder Luka Modric, 26.
  • Tottenham have accused Arsenal of making a fake bid for French goalkeeper Hugo Lloris, 25, who is a Spurs target.
  • Spurs have made an enquiry about long-term Chelsea target and Shakhtar Donetsk midfielder Willian, 23.
  • Lucas Moura, 19, is staying with Sao Paulo and will not move to Manchester United this summer, according to the Brazilian midfielder's agent.
  • And Sao Paulo president Juvenal Juvencio is determined to hold on to Lucas, according to reports in Brazil.
  • United could be considering one final swoop for Lucas or face watching the deal collapse.
  • AC Milan want to open talks with Manchester City over the possibility of signing Argentina striker Carlos Tevez, 28.
  • Manchester City defender Aleksandar Kolarov is close to a return to Serie A as Inter Milan look to finalise a £6.2m deal.
  • Newcastle have dismissed claims that Rubin Kazan are set to sign Demba Ba, 27, as the Russian side look to trigger striker's £7m exit clause.
  • Nigerian striker Odion Ighalo, 23, claims Swansea want to sign him from Italian club Udinese.
  • Aston Villa are set for a surprise £3.5m swoop for Ipswich left-back Aaron Cresswell, 22.
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post #329 of 13952
7/25/12 at 11:40am
Sepp Blatter is such an idiot
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post #330 of 13952
7/25/12 at 12:22pm
I see what you guys mean...

Marta is class smokin.gif.

Her setup of the 4th goal was smooth.
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