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Also to add, very excited to hear that PSG are interested in Modric.

Bid has gone in for Oscar.

Arsenal are apparently interested in Lloris as well as Spurs? Doesn't make much sense to me
post #62 of 18505

Sigurdsson to join spurs


The attacking midfielder is no stranger to the Premier League having enjoyed an impressive loan spell at Swansea City during the second half of last season.
He scored seven times in 19 appearances as well as picking up the Barclays Player of the Month award for March.
The Iceland international originally moved to England with Reading, coming through their academy to make 51 appearances and scoring 23 times. He was named Player of the Year in his only full season in the Royals First Team before moving to the Bundesliga with Hoffenheim in 2010.

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What do you guys think of Valencia getting No.7 for Man Utd.

it takes a special kind of player to be associated with that number 7... i just hope that pressure doesn't weigh him down... Tired

Valencia was Utd's biggest threat at times last season and has the work ethic to continue getting better. There's a reason Valencia was given this number instead of Nani  

he requested for that number 7...
of course,i'd love to see him do well but it's massive pressure that he could've done without...

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Also to add, very excited to hear that PSG are interested in Modric.

i don't follow Ligue 1 but a quick look at the PSG squad and i would assume he would be a regular starter there...
interesting to see him link up with Pastore in midfield with Menez and Nene in support...

EDIT: i just read that Diego Forlan's contract at Inter is set to be cancelled...
damn,i feel bad for him... Tired
post #64 of 18505
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- Serie A side Udinese have confirmed striker Antonio Di Natale has signed a new one-year contract extension.
- Juventus are poised to complete the capture of veteran defender Lucio after the defender arrived in Turin for a medical.
- Fulham plan to make move for Chelsea utility man Yossi Benayoun.
- Italian side Napoli are looking to push ahead with a move for Chelsea midfielder Raul Meireles after seeking talks with the player’s agent.
- Barcelona launching bid for Arsenal's Vermaelen
- Benfica plan bid for Man Utd midfielder Anderson
- Liverpool push Fulham to drop Dempsey price
- Real Betis coach Mel leaves Tottenham's Giovani to Malaga
- Galatasaray go for Chelsea attacker Kalou
post #65 of 18505

Glazers' plans to float Manchester United make the heart sink

The US owners hope to entice investors willing to buy Manchester United shares with reduced voting rights and no dividend, then register the company in the Cayman Islands

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After so many months of testing the flotation waters in Singapore, then New York, we can now see the scheme that Manchester United's owners, the US-based Glazer family, have been paying an army of bankers to orchestrate. United's debt, loaded on in 2005 for nothing more constructive than the Glazers' takeover itself, remains a sorry £423m burden, even after the club has paid out more than £500m interest, bankers' fees and charges, to service it. Now the Glazers have hit on their preferred solution: find other people prepared to pay some of it off, while the family remains in complete control.

The 231-page registration document filed with the New York Stock Exchange in preparation for a float of the famous Manchester United is the latest Glazer candidate for the most depressing document ever produced containing the word football. It features an introductory "reorganisation" map, so potential investors can navigate themselves through the tax havens within which Manchester United is to be harboured.

The Glazer family will retain control, via their company, Red Football LLC, registered in the low-tax US State of Delaware: "Upon completion of this offering, Red Football LLC will remain our [Manchester United's] principal shareholder and will continue to be owned and controlled by the six lineal descendants [five sons and one daughter] of Mr Malcolm Glazer."

The Manchester United company to be floated has been registered in the Cayman Islands. Investors will be invited to buy class A shares in that company, which will carry 10 times less the voting rights of the B shares the Glazers will issue to themselves. Nor is there a plan to pay dividends to the investors. They are asked to buy shares in the expectation their value will increase as Manchester United, described in the document as "one of the world's leading brands", further exploits its commercial potential.

Below Red Football LLC, the Glazers' vehicle in Delaware, and the public investors in the Cayman Islands-registered Manchester United Ltd, are five further holding companies, in a graphic which looks like a robot with a wonky hip. At the bottom of the chart are "various operating subsidiaries", not itemised in any further detail. Somewhere within that assortment, at the bottom of the corporate structure leading via the Cayman Islands ultimately to Delaware, is Manchester United, the football club of Sirs Matt Busby, Bobby Charlton and Alex Ferguson, still with its 0161 telephone code somewhat quaintly noted on the New York Stock Exchange document.

Some eyewatering detail is provided in the necessary information for investors, besides the already famous admission that United's debts risk "adversely affecting" the club. Indeed a legendary club, and with 20 years success in the Premier League era, United make huge money, from 76,000 supporters at Old Trafford, TV sales and all the sponsorships and commercial income the Glazers' executives wring from the "brand". Yet over the years, £500m has gone out to service the debts, and some of that is broken down.

In the nine months to 31 March this year, finance costs were £35m; in the year ended 30 June, 2011, United paid out £51.3m interest. That followed the hideous £108.6m paid out, in the year to 30 June 2010, when the Glazers last refinanced. That included £16.4m and £19.3m lost on dollar-to-pound exchange rates, and "a £11.9m one-time charge related to terminated interest rate swap agreements". Supporters asking why Ferguson has not signed top European players to complement his still admirable faith in youth, can peer at that to see where some of their club's money has gone. This stock market move is intended to reduce the debt and put United in a healthier position, but supporters see the financial interests of the Glazers at the heart of it.

One wider point should be considered, among many. This is the most momentous event at an English club since the England team tumbled out of the European Championship. Roy Hodgson's team of triers was accompanied by the age-old call for a revolution in how we think about football, for Premier League clubs, the Football Association and the whole game to the grass roots, to pull together for the common good. Days later, English football's greatest name is being re-routed to the New York Stock Exchange via the Cayman Islands, to pay debts a US family was allowed to load on, to buy one of our great clubs in the first place. That hocking of clubs in the global marketplace has always seemed at odds with a coherent approach to building a great sport, a waste of the great opportunities the modern era is providing.

post #66 of 18505
Oh. smiley: nerd

Robin van Persie has announced he will not be extending his contract at Arsenal, with a statement on his official website reading: "I’ve thought long and hard about it, but I have decided not to extend my contract. You guys, the fans, have of course the right to disagree with my view and decision and I will always respect your opinions."



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post #67 of 18505
Big Big day for Arsenal and Rangers it seems.
post #68 of 18505
Persie man...30t6p3bEek

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Damn, this reflects terribly on Arsenal management. What could Wenger/Gazidis possibly have said that would affect his decision so drastically? My condolences to the Gooners on here. 

As for the Glazers - LOL. That IPO filing was filled with high comedy, especially the reported "fan base." Leaches, the lot of them. 
post #71 of 18505
Is nani going anywhere? if so, where do you think?
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Welcome to Chelsea?


smiley: laugh  Chelsea fans taking after their owner. 

Haven't ever been linked with him, and don't even really need him, but already raring to throw their owner's dirty money at him like it's their own. Shameless. 
post #73 of 18505
RIP to Gunner fans' livers today. You guys enjoy your 4th.
post #74 of 18505
Twitter claims from folks who claim they're in the know...(aka just random rumours)

"Van Persie will complete his move to MCFC within two weeks. Fee of around £22m. Contract worth £225k per week already agreed."


post #75 of 18505
just found this.... "german efficiency" Roll


post #76 of 18505
I wonder if the Man U IPO bankers will be as greedy as the FB bankers...
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post #77 of 18505
Damn man....RvP...why dis he have to do it today. Been drinking since the morning, put a slight damper on the 4t
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post #78 of 18505
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Why would you even want him? A guy who previously spends way too many weeks on the injury table, who will never replicate the form he had, and who will break the wage structure? No thank you.

I must say that usually I would laugh at the plight of the Gooners, but I do quite feel bad about this one, as I do think that they have made strides to set themselves up to win a trophy, especially this season. On the other hand, I do understand the economics of the situation, and this will probably be his last big contract, so he has to get paid and this is going to be the time.
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post #79 of 18505
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RIP to Gunner fans' livers today. You guys enjoy your 4th.

Ruined my who #*@%++! day. smiley: mad 

I KNEW we weren't proactive in the transfer market to appease RVP, we were just covering our %%!%@.  

I hope he gets the same #*@%++! treatment from Arsenal fans that Nasri gets. 1 good seasons out of 8 and he wants to +@#@ off for more money? +@#@ you RVP!


  
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Welcome to Chelsea?


smiley: laugh  Chelsea fans taking after their owner. 

Haven't ever been linked with him, and don't even really need him, but already raring to throw their owner's dirty money at him like it's their own. Shameless. 

laugh.gif it was a joke guys.. just poking fun @ the entire situation.  Because of this Arsenal may very well have to sell him to a club with deep pockets... truthfully i'd put my money on Manchester City, but we'll see, Arsenal will most likely convince him to stay.. 
post #81 of 18505
Okay... okay. Let's see, technically we've got him for this season still, maybe if we win something he'll extend his contract before it ends. Right? Right? frown.gif
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Welcome to Chelsea?


smiley: laugh  Chelsea fans taking after their owner. 

Haven't ever been linked with him, and don't even really need him, but already raring to throw their owner's dirty money at him like it's their own. Shameless. 

laugh.gif it was a joke guys.. just poking fun @ the entire situation.  Because of this Arsenal may very well have to sell him to a club with deep pockets... truthfully i'd put my money on Manchester City, but we'll see, Arsenal will most likely convince him to stay.. 


Weren't there talks of RVP not going to any other team in the EPL, because of his deep connection to Arsenal? I thought he would end up going to Italy (Juventus) or France (PSG).
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post #83 of 18505
Arsenal and Barca fan checkin in
Gonna tryna to post more this year
That RVP news cut me deep man........30t6p3b.gif
post #84 of 18505
its obvious where rvp is going he will go to city get paid 200+ a week and only play about 15 matches in the epl.......the life

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post #85 of 18505
I'd love to laugh.. But the same thing is gonna happen to us with Modric, and probably VDV frown.gif
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I'd love to laugh.. But the same thing is gonna happen to us with Modric, and probably VDV frown.gif

Biggest difference with the RVP situation is that he says he is leaving the club because of the direction Arsenal want to go. Had it not been for Arsenal in the first place i.e. buying young players, being patient, and letting them develop, RVP would've been gone a long time ago. But it has made this great week even better

Modric just signed a long term deal meaning that Levy will only take a good offer for him and VDV will only go to Hamburg if they put a huge bid on the table. Not too worried as I feel VDV will be much less effective under AVB and Oscar and Gylfi would fit in much better.
post #87 of 18505
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If he leaves the EPL best wishes. If he goes to City he can burn in hell.
post #88 of 18505
Interesting conflict.. on one hand, Arsene Wenger's approach towards building a strong squad has been flawed . How long does a player wait?
On the other hand, Arsenal was very patient with Robin van Persie through his injury struggles. It wasn't always this sunny in London for the Dutchman. Is this how you repay loyalty? I have no doubt in my mind that Real Madrid or Barcelona would've sent him to the glue factory years ago.
post #89 of 18505
Some of you AFC fans need to chill...although RVP is a great striker...he's not going to have another season like he did last season...

Relax....Giroud has lots of talent and time...
post #90 of 18505
Does anyone know Darren Dein's client list because this guy has been getting revenge for his father one player at a time every summer. And if RVP wanted to leave it could have been done in a much different way instead putting down the club, taking false jabs at Ivan, and lowering his transfer value.

PS if you noticed he never asked for a transfer hence saving his loyalty bonus when he's sold, i get more disgusted by the second
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