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I literally stopped reading after "Hilton Head, North Carolina".


Yeah, that left me with the confused face too smiley: laugh. I had to Google it to make sure there weren't two. 
post #62 of 125
It's plausible.

Donaghy got into manipulating games because he was involved with criminals.

But was it really point-shaving if they were winning championships? Or was MJ just that godly that he could win and lose games at will
post #63 of 125

Thread jack.....

Bryan Fischer: Why is Magic Johnson healthy as a horse? HIV virus does NOT cause AIDS
Thursday, January 05, 2012 2:15 PM

By Bryan Fischer 

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post #64 of 125
Matt53: Interesting read, but are there any other articles out there on this? This is the first time I've heard anyone suggest something like this.
post #65 of 125
About the only thing that rivals Jordans love for basketball is his gambling problem..30t6p3b.gif ..and I can definitely see a likely scenario of his father being killed because of his unpaid debts...
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post #66 of 125
I've heard this Jordan story a lot before. Just not this detailed though.

The Magic story though smiley: nerd

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post #67 of 125
magic is *$%#?
post #68 of 125
Great article. I have been hearing this for years about Jordan. Now the Magic info is new.

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post #69 of 125
So are we going to act like what matt53 just wrote didn't happen? How does that explain the people who are straight and died from aids? It just seems like another anti gay guy who can't get money for his research....
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post #70 of 125
This theory has been around for years.

It's always been implied that this is "fact".
post #71 of 125
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Originally Posted by Deuce King

You dudes really believe most of this stuff??




People love conspiracy theories laugh.gif

I'm not buying that story, sorry.

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post #72 of 125
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Originally Posted by Quaz

Matt53: Interesting read, but are there any other articles out there on this? This is the first time I've heard anyone suggest something like this.


For the record, i'm not super homophoic or anything but I came across that and thought it brought up some good points and could possibly explain why Magic never got AIDS. Quaz, this was the first article I found but I'm interested enough to start looking for more info because I hadn't ever heard about that either.

EDIT:@thizisdray, I'm not an expert on this stuff but my understanding are that the primary ways that AIDS is passed is from unprotected sex, blood transfusions, dirty needles, etc. so if someone is straight and comes in contact with one of the previously noted ways, then they could still contract AIDS if they were straight.
post #73 of 125
Nope, not buying the story either.
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post #75 of 125
I don't really care about Jordan retiring since he came back two different times, won more championships, and is still goat. Him being a gambler is widely known and anything about him point shaving wouldn't change my perception of him much.

However, you would have me believe that Magic Johnson permanently retired, sacrificing at least 2 or 3 more runs at a title and millions of dollars by fake contracting HIV because he gambled on games and point shaved when Jordan came back to the league two different times doing the same thing? That he has been pretending to have HIV for over the past 20 years because at the most he didn't want to be exposed as a guy who gambled on games and allegedly bet on games he played in?

WHERE THEY DO THAT AT?
post #76 of 125
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Originally Posted by Matt53


Thread jack.....

any thoughts?


1. he didn't link to any sources for his claims.
2. Alot of anti-gay sentiment/stereotypes

:/ 

post #77 of 125
Not entirely surprised about jordans habits with gambling. The conclusion is a plausible notion of how much of a money machine he was to ever grace the nba. Why wouldn't dave stern pull a few strings to paint the perfect picture. It's a bias league when competition is merely that for the exchange of money. Magic's story though is interesting, iv'e always found those research industries non-resourceful, especially when it comes to cancer. They're implying that magic was messing with a chick that had hiv, not that he was a %+@% because amongst the rate which is higher for dudes than women he would've decreased in health.
post #78 of 125
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I literally stopped reading after "Hilton Head, North Carolina".



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post #79 of 125
If the Magic situation was true why would he use HIV as a cover? I mean that's a lil extreme.
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Alright, for my two cents…

I've said this on NT before, but i'll say it again. My mom's friend was very close with the LA sparks and their coach at the time, Orlando Woolridge. (R.I.P.) Woolridge, who was addicted to drugs himself, used to tell my mom all the time of Magic's get down(s) up until he retired in 91'. The forum club was turnt up, and turned everybody out. Magic (along with his teammates, other pros, celebrities, etc.) were doing drugs, (Not Weed either) having sex with men and women, orgy like, swinger like stuff. Magic would come out the forum club sweating, smiling, and flocks of men and women followed. These players and celebs had wives and husbands and didn't care either. (That's a story for another time.)

The HIV article that was posted, points to Homosexuality as the cause for AIDS and that HIV is borderline harmless. I for one, agree to a degree simply because I believe that AIDS, HIV, Weed, and a load of other things are just media hype and propaganda. If you don't know about HIV, AIDS, etc. and all you hear is that it's an "Epidemic" and that "HIV leads to AIDS" of course you're going to believe that. So, with that being said I believe that Magic either contracted HIV (a virutally harmless virus) from a male, or didn't contract it at all and it was big lie/cover up.

As for Mike, Orlando was a teammate of his early in his career and told my mom's friend about the severity of Mike's gambling and straight from him, almost all of what that story on the first page says about mike checks out with what Orlando said about him. Gambling with killers, in debt millions of dollars, point shaving, all checked out. NBA is a sick and cold game man.
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post #82 of 125
There is truth in the HIV/AIDS post. HIV is not the disease it is made out to be and I have a hard time believing it causes lifelong illness.
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Originally Posted by GetThisMoney

There is truth in the HIV/AIDS post. HIV is not the disease it is made out to be and I have a hard time believing it causes lifelong illness.


Why do you have a hard time believing it causes AIDS?
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post #86 of 125
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Originally Posted by shoeking2101

Alright, for my two cents…

I've said this on NT before, but i'll say it again. My mom's friend was very close with the LA sparks and their coach at the time, Orlando Woolridge. (R.I.P.) Woolridge, who was addicted to drugs himself, used to tell my mom all the time of Magic's get down(s) up until he retired in 91'. The forum club was turnt up, and turned everybody out. Magic (along with his teammates, other pros, celebrities, etc.) were doing drugs, (Not Weed either) having sex with men and women, orgy like, swinger like stuff. Magic would come out the forum club sweating, smiling, and flocks of men and women followed. These players and celebs had wives and husbands and didn't care either. (That's a story for another time.)

The HIV article that was posted, points to Homosexuality as the cause for AIDS and that HIV is borderline harmless. I for one, agree to a degree simply because I believe that AIDS, HIV, Weed, and a load of other things are just media hype and propaganda. If you don't know about HIV, AIDS, etc. and all you hear is that it's an "Epidemic" and that "HIV leads to AIDS" of course you're going to believe that. So, with that being said I believe that Magic either contracted HIV (a virutally harmless virus) from a male, or didn't contract it at all and it was big lie/cover up.

As for Mike, Orlando was a teammate of his early in his career and told my mom's friend about the severity of Mike's gambling and straight from him, almost all of what that story on the first page says about mike checks out with what Orlando said about him. Gambling with killers, in debt millions of dollars, point shaving, all checked out. NBA is a sick and cold game man.

Anybody got some more articles concerning Jordan and Point shaving? Interested in that...
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post #87 of 125
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Originally Posted by GetThisMoney

There is truth in the HIV/AIDS post. HIV is not the disease it is made out to be and I have a hard time believing it causes lifelong illness.

Why do you have a hard time believing it causes AIDS?

30t6p3b.gif some of my friends say you can't get HIV through unprotected sex. dude's trying to live with that fact to the chest & said only blooed related stuff like needles 30t6p3b.gif I told them go ahead & try, i wanna see the result laugh.gifpimp.gif

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post #88 of 125
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Originally Posted by rice boy 45

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Originally Posted by CreateDestroy

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Originally Posted by GetThisMoney

There is truth in the HIV/AIDS post. HIV is not the disease it is made out to be and I have a hard time believing it causes lifelong illness.

Why do you have a hard time believing it causes AIDS?

30t6p3b.gif some of my friends say you can't get HIV through unprotected sex. dude's trying to live with that fact to the chest & said only blooed related stuff like needles 30t6p3b.gif I told them go ahead & try, i wanna see the result laugh.gifpimp.gif

sucks to be them


These are your friends? 
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post #89 of 125
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Originally Posted by shoeking2101

Alright, for my two cents…

I've said this on NT before, but i'll say it again. My mom's friend was very close with the LA sparks and their coach at the time, Orlando Woolridge. (R.I.P.) Woolridge, who was addicted to drugs himself, used to tell my mom all the time of Magic's get down(s) up until he retired in 91'. The forum club was turnt up, and turned everybody out. Magic (along with his teammates, other pros, celebrities, etc.) were doing drugs, (Not Weed either) having sex with men and women, orgy like, swinger like stuff. Magic would come out the forum club sweating, smiling, and flocks of men and women followed. These players and celebs had wives and husbands and didn't care either. (That's a story for another time.)

The HIV article that was posted, points to Homosexuality as the cause for AIDS and that HIV is borderline harmless. I for one, agree to a degree simply because I believe that AIDS, HIV, Weed, and a load of other things are just media hype and propaganda. If you don't know about HIV, AIDS, etc. and all you hear is that it's an "Epidemic" and that "HIV leads to AIDS" of course you're going to believe that. So, with that being said I believe that Magic either contracted HIV (a virutally harmless virus) from a male, or didn't contract it at all and it was big lie/cover up.

As for Mike, Orlando was a teammate of his early in his career and told my mom's friend about the severity of Mike's gambling and straight from him, almost all of what that story on the first page says about mike checks out with what Orlando said about him. Gambling with killers, in debt millions of dollars, point shaving, all checked out. NBA is a sick and cold game man.

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It's crazy to me how ppl can say something is propaganda, sensationalism, conspiracy, or an out right lie, etc. but then instead of taking the next logical step in investigating and researching whether or not their claim is right they just go ahead and believe in their irrational skepticism and look for other like minded views to strengthen and support their ignorance. I would ask or tell you to some thorough research on AIDs/HIV so you could "discover" the connection but I guess you'd just say they've spread the false information everywhere so everyone can believe it.

smiley: laugh @ HIV leading to AIDs being media hype or some kind of plain sight massive lie to fool the public.

Still can't believe you grouped weed with HIV.

EDIT

smiley: roll@imvictor's post. I love going raw but these dudes out here lying to themselves.
post #90 of 125
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Originally Posted by shoeking2101

Alright, for my two cents…

I've said this on NT before, but i'll say it again. My mom's friend was very close with the LA sparks and their coach at the time, Orlando Woolridge. (R.I.P.) Woolridge, who was addicted to drugs himself, used to tell my mom all the time of Magic's get down(s) up until he retired in 91'. The forum club was turnt up, and turned everybody out. Magic (along with his teammates, other pros, celebrities, etc.) were doing drugs, (Not Weed either) having sex with men and women, orgy like, swinger like stuff. Magic would come out the forum club sweating, smiling, and flocks of men and women followed. These players and celebs had wives and husbands and didn't care either. (That's a story for another time.)

The HIV article that was posted, points to Homosexuality as the cause for AIDS and that HIV is borderline harmless. I for one, agree to a degree simply because I believe that AIDS, HIV, Weed, and a load of other things are just media hype and propaganda. If you don't know about HIV, AIDS, etc. and all you hear is that it's an "Epidemic" and that "HIV leads to AIDS" of course you're going to believe that. So, with that being said I believe that Magic either contracted HIV (a virutally harmless virus) from a male, or didn't contract it at all and it was big lie/cover up.

As for Mike, Orlando was a teammate of his early in his career and told my mom's friend about the severity of Mike's gambling and straight from him, almost all of what that story on the first page says about mike checks out with what Orlando said about him. Gambling with killers, in debt millions of dollars, point shaving, all checked out. NBA is a sick and cold game man.

smiley: rollsmiley: rollsmiley: rollsmiley: rollsmiley: rollsmiley: rollsmiley: rollsmiley: rollsmiley: rollsmiley: roll

It's crazy to me how ppl can say something is propaganda, sensationalism, conspiracy, or an out right lie, etc. but then instead of taking the next logical step in investigating and researching whether or not their claim is right they just go ahead and believe in their irrational skepticism and look for other like minded views to strengthen and support their ignorance. I would ask or tell you to some thorough research on AIDs/HIV so you could "discover" the connection but I guess you'd just say they've spread the false information everywhere so everyone can believe it.

smiley: laugh @ HIV leading to AIDs being media hype or some kind of plain sight massive lie to fool the public.

Still can't believe you grouped weed with HIV.

EDIT

smiley: roll@imvictor's post. I love going raw but these dudes out here lying to themselves.

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