NFL Discussion Thread - Hall of Fame Game: August 3rd

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my point is they werent considered stars until last year... either way you look at it peyton manning is going to be mvp this year and no ones deserves it more then he does end of discussion
 
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Bro Tebow was the QB. You cant judge a WR based on Tebow throwing him the ball. Just look at Fitz before Warner and after Warner.
 
Last year was Reggie Wayne's second best season as a pro. So I guess your numbers add up to rookie Luck being = to Manning in his prime?


Bro....they had TIM TEBOW throwing them the ball. He literally couldn't throw. Jerry Rice in his prime wouldn't have done any better than them with Tebow slinging it.


last year luck actually had one of the greatest rookie seasons for a qb ever... when peyton was in indy it was always reggie and marvin and dallas or reggie and garcon and dallas never reggie by himself like he was last year...
 
If Wilson is on an All-Madden Team, does that mean the Colts are an All-All-Madden team since they beat them?
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Wayne by himself?  I guess we're just ignoring the 2,000 yards and 13 TDs between Hilton, Avery, and Allen...


how do you compare marvin harrison and dallas clark to avery, hilton, and allen?

andrew luck threw for 4000 plus yardage in 2012 and you are comparing just 2000 tied down to 3 players... wonder where the rest of that production from luck went... MR. Reggie "Bruce" Wayne **** thats why he had such a great season.
 
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The fact that Demaryius Thomas could be identified as future star when he played with the antichrist tim tebow proves his worth.  Saying Peyton doesn't have weapons is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.  It was considered the best receiving core in the league before Alshon Jeffrey made his leap.
 
The fact that Demaryius Thomas could be identified as future star when he played with the antichrist tim tebow proves his worth.  Saying Peyton doesn't have weapons is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.  It was considered the best receiving core in the league before Alshon Jeffrey made his leap.

when did i ever say peyton doesnt have weapons?? just said they werent considered stars till last year...
 
Peyton obviously elevates those players statistically. But Demaryius Thomas , Wes Welker, Eric Decker and Julius Thomas would be a great core for any QB.

Decker is the only one I feel is a little inflated in value personally.
 
I'll choose to be in denial about Rodgers being out until the game starts. I don't understand how he can feel completely fine throwing the ball and be day by day with the bone healing 5 days ago if not longer, but we rule him out 2 days early. Then again I don't know **** about collarbones. Like I said I ain't ready to be told I have to wait until next year, this week. They're either being tricksters or Aaron's gonna tell the doc to F off Sunday morning.
 
Peyton obviously elevates those players statistically. But Demaryius Thomas , Wes Welker, Eric Decker and Julius Thomas would be a great core for any QB.


Decker is the only one I feel is a little inflated in value personally.


of course they are, no ever thought julius thomas was going to be as good as he is, no one even really knew who he was until preseason. IMO they have the best wr group in the league, the only thing i said was that they werent considered "stars" until last year when they went off and peyton had a lot to do with all of that and that no one is even close in the discussion for the mvp race with peyton.
 
None of those dudes were considered stars for sure :lol: . They are ALL benefiting from that system of good talent on offense with Peyton. Who the hell was Julius Thomas before? :lol:

Remember that bum Garcon in Indy? Yeah, well he's supposed to be the WAS #1 receiver :lol:. Ask him how he got that #1 receiver money. Peyton made that guy look good too and a long list of other guys as well.
 
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Julius Thomas was a rookie last year WITH Peyton there and they just didn't use him til this season.

Garçon may not be a true #1 receiver but he's having his best season as a pro this year and that's with RG3 having an awful year.

My god...I love watching Peyton play too but you guys are taking this too far.
 
Julius Thomas was a rookie last year WITH Peyton there and they just didn't use him til this season.

Garçon may not be a true #1 receiver but he's having his best season as a pro this year and that's with RG3 having an awful year.

My god...I love watching Peyton play too but you guys are taking this too far.

He wasn't a #1 in Indy & still made Garcon look better than what he really is though. Check his Indy stats not as a #1 to his stats as a #1 right now.

Sorry to bring him up. dude is trash anyways :lol:
 
The word "trash" is used too loosely. What we really should be talking about if is how trash the Skins receiving group is BESIDES Garçon. They have nothing even close to resembling a #2 receiver.
 
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The word "trash" is used too loosely. What we really should be talking about if is how trash the Skins receiving group is BESIDES Garçon. They have nothing even close to resembling a #2 receiver.

Yes they do his name's Pierre
 
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Oh hardy har har.

There's nothing close to resembling a starting receiver behind Garçon. Rookie 3rd rounder Jordan Reed has been their second best option and he was supposed to be the backup tight end coming into the year.
 
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Oh hardy har har.


There's nothing close to resembling a starting receiver behind Garçon. Rookie 3rd rounder Jordan Reed has been their second best option and he was supposed to be the backup tight end coming into the year.


******* are a product of there qb, now that dude is trash...
 
He wasn't a #1 in Indy & still made Garcon look better than what he really is though. Check his Indy stats not as a #1 to his stats as a #1 right now.

Sorry to bring him up. dude is trash anyways :lol:

Dude isnt that good. I'm still mad at him over his drop in the Super Bowl. :smh:
 
Dude isnt that good. I'm still mad at him over his drop in the Super Bowl.
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dude was wide open on that crossing pattern and nothing but green grass in front of him wouldve been 17-3 game... gets me mad just thinking about it... ive never seen a team get that out coached ever, jim caldwell didnt know wtf he was doing. i wonder what that POS hank baskett is up to now days
 
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Alright we can both agree that Jim Caldwell was the most overmatched coach I've ever seen in my life. I'm about 90% positive he did absolutely nothing for that team. Peyton was the head coach.
 
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