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NFL Discussion Thread - Hall of Fame Game: August 3rd
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Ah **** the season NEEDS to start.
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3 weeks till the Hall of Fame Game
Ah **** the season NEEDS to start.
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Two legendary franchises and iconic symbols/unis. But you are so right about the change in number font
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Quick Question. Is everyone's Top WR still go 1. Calvin Johnson 2. Larry Fitz/Andre Johnson 3.Larry Fitz/Andre Johnson, are have some of the younger WRs passed them? AJ Green, Dez Bryant, or Julio?
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the last superbowl run the giants defense averaged 14 ppg, thatll make them the #1 defense if it was thru 16 games...they held the packers, niners ,falcons and patriots all under 21 pts, all very prolific offenses...rodgers on his mvp year tearing it up...
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MannEl00.htmDog you are truly delusional...
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RomoTo00.htm
aint nothing dilusional bout facts...you take eli's best year and it looks like one of romos average years...
facts only
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Romo gets his stats up during a bunch of losses in Q4.
He's like Carson Palmer that way.
The Boys are annually 8-8 so spare me the Romo doesn't stat pad, etc etc. We've all seen him in action, people literally predict his turnovers by the drive.
What facts you have to support that?
Romo only had 6 tds and 900 yards when trailing by 8 plus points last season
All facts
Romo is second in the NFL in fourth quarter comeback wins since 2011. He's led 9 game winning drives since 11. 3rd behind Eli and Ryan
Romo and the Cowboys led the NFL in fourth quarter comebacks in 2012. Romo is 6th among active QB's in comeback wins with 19
And those aren't just wins from games that were tied with a go-ahead score. 18 of those 19 wins were from behind.
Romo has the HIGHEST fourth quarter Quarterback ranking among active QB's. Playoffs included
Romo has thrown for 300 yards 40 times and has 48 games with a QB rating over 100.00. His 7.94 yards per attempt is 7th in NFL history
Romo has had 7 straight seasons with a 90+ QB rating. Only Peyton Manning and Steve Young have ever done that.
The ONE season Romo had a top 10 defense he won a playoff game. Romo is the only QB n NFL history to beat 2 undefeated teams (7-0 or better)
The only reason the Cowboys were in playoff contention in Week 17 was a league-high five comeback wins in the fourth quarter in 2012.
Romo had two interceptions last season when ahead or behind by 7 points in the fourth quarter last season
Only had two in 2011 also.
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but why is that taken as good offense?? why does that make him elite?
dudes talk of eli like he does that 16 games 4 quarters..
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If you take Eli's stats from that same year and changed it for 16 games he would have 36tds,4876yds 4ints. I understand there is no way we win with our defense stepping up but Eli had a huge part in each run. Thats not even mention the Eli had to work with the DEAD LAST rushing attack that year.
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I can't think of many Super Bowl Winning teams who's defenses didn't "cook" in the playoffs.
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ill give you that, rushing game was suspect..
but personally, id say the d line was more impressive than eli both rings..
they made plays in the backfield and more importantly they controlled games...
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CJ, andre, & fitz still round out my top 3... i have green, dez, & julio right there behind them in rankings, but imo they haven't passed them up yet. i do expect to see all of them have big seasons this year & make the rankings real interesting though
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I'm not even a Romo hater... I think he's a good QB. But I don't care what the stats are- Eli and Flacco both won Super Bowls and though they were team efforts both gave heroic playoff efforts along the way. Romo has won nothing... So why would you talk down to Flacco when your QB has been worse when it matters?
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In the 14 games that Romo has had a QB rating below 67 his record is 2-12 14% winning percentage. In the 38(!!!!!!!) games that Eli has had a rating below 67 his record is 14-24 for a 37% win percentage. In the 13 games that Matt Ryan has a had a a 67 or below qb rating his record is 6-7 46% win percentage.
Football is a team sport, when Romo plays bad his team losses over 85 percent of the time, when Eli and Matt play bad there teams losses only 63 and 52 percent of the time. That's the Giants and Falcons bailing them out, Romo doesn't have that luxury.
Give Romo the teams that those dudes have and he already has a ring.
According to the facts Romo has 2.4 bad games a season, Jay Cutler has 4.0, Eli has 4.5 and Vick has 5. But people say Romo is always good for two bad games a season.. and they're right but Eli, Ryan, Vick, Brees, and Big Ben are all good for more bad games a season.
Now consider this hypothetical scenario: If Romo had Ryan's win percentage of .470 in poor games, his record would change from 2-12 to 7-7. Similarly, if Romo had Ryan's .970 win percentage in 100+ rating games, his record in those games would rocket from 37-11 to 47-1. That 15-game swing would give Romo a career record of 70-23 instead of the current 55-38. Think about that. That's the player Romo could be - with the right team around him
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2013...-bad-games-matt-ryan-tom-brady-peyton-manning
Football is a team sport, when Romo plays bad his team losses over 85 percent of the time, when Eli and Matt play bad there teams losses only 63 and 52 percent of the time. That's the Giants and Falcons bailing them out, Romo doesn't have that luxury.
Give Romo the teams that those dudes have and he already has a ring.
According to the facts Romo has 2.4 bad games a season, Jay Cutler has 4.0, Eli has 4.5 and Vick has 5. But people say Romo is always good for two bad games a season.. and they're right but Eli, Ryan, Vick, Brees, and Big Ben are all good for more bad games a season.
Now consider this hypothetical scenario: If Romo had Ryan's win percentage of .470 in poor games, his record would change from 2-12 to 7-7. Similarly, if Romo had Ryan's .970 win percentage in 100+ rating games, his record in those games would rocket from 37-11 to 47-1. That 15-game swing would give Romo a career record of 70-23 instead of the current 55-38. Think about that. That's the player Romo could be - with the right team around him
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2013...-bad-games-matt-ryan-tom-brady-peyton-manning
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fitzy put up horrible numbers last year (although he had no one to get him the ball). i think he dropped from the top 3. a lot of up and comers though are around the corner. aj, dez, julio, thomas, cruz, wallace, etc.
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I'd hesitate to put Wallace with some of those other names . AJ v Julio is a great one to watch to move into that top 3 territory
. AJ v Julio is a great one to watch to move into that top 3 territory
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Agree. But at the same time when Green Bay won their Super Bowl in 2010 they had 18 sacks in those 4 games.
The Giants had 12 sacks in their 4 games in 2011. I know that doesn't account for hurries, but it still shows that most SB winning teams have their defenses step up.
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Yeah Romo had to totally carry that 07-08 team. Zero help.
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good stat about green bay, i didnt kno that..
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Romo gets his stats up during a bunch of losses in Q4.
He's like Carson Palmer that way.
The Boys are annually 8-8 so spare me the Romo doesn't stat pad, etc etc. We've all seen him in action, people literally predict his turnovers by the drive.
What facts you have to support that?
Romo only had 6 tds and 900 yards when trailing by 8 plus points last season
All facts
Romo is second in the NFL in fourth quarter comeback wins since 2011. He's led 9 game winning drives since 11. 3rd behind Eli and Ryan
Romo and the Cowboys led the NFL in fourth quarter comebacks in 2012. Romo is 6th among active QB's in comeback wins with 19
And those aren't just wins from games that were tied with a go-ahead score. 18 of those 19 wins were from behind.
Romo has the HIGHEST fourth quarter Quarterback ranking among active QB's. Playoffs included
Romo has thrown for 300 yards 40 times and has 48 games with a QB rating over 100.00. His 7.94 yards per attempt is 7th in NFL history
Romo has had 7 straight seasons with a 90+ QB rating. Only Peyton Manning and Steve Young have ever done that.
The ONE season Romo had a top 10 defense he won a playoff game. Romo is the only QB n NFL history to beat 2 undefeated teams (7-0 or better)
The only reason the Cowboys were in playoff contention in Week 17 was a league-high five comeback wins in the fourth quarter in 2012.
Romo had two interceptions last season when ahead or behind by 7 points in the fourth quarter last season
Only had two in 2011 also.
All that.
For 1 playoff win.
You right, Romo is tremendous, we should all be so lucky to have Romo so we can go 8-8 every year too.
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He had a top ten defense, the No.6 rushing attack, and was throwing to a Prime T.O and a Prime Jason Witten. What else more does a QB want.The team that went 13-4 in in Romos first full season as a starter?
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