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uhmm...because its the best metric available to measure quarterback performance?
NFL Discussion Thread - Hall of Fame Game: August 3rd
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uhmm...because its the best metric available to measure quarterback performance?
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So...
Q: Why do they push a flawed metric?
A: Because its the best metric.
Ready to hear the argument for this.
Q: Why do they push a flawed metric?
A: Because its the best metric.
Ready to hear the argument for this.
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Arguing stats/PEDs w/ OKB is pointless 
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Saying QBR is a flawed stat just seems to be the cool thing to do. Most people who hold that position dont really have a real reason as to why they say it.....and if they do, they certainly havent shared it with anyone.
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Nick Foles as MVP? Come on now. He's played just over half of the team's games, and not all of those limited performances were good ones.
I fought the urge to just post "
" and mock you for that statement.
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A qb will have a bad game then you hear had qbr of 70 and has bad passing rating
http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/qbr-espns-deeply-flawed-made-for-tv-stat/7978/
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people hate information, i don't get it.
do you know how passer rating is calculated, you know how flawed that is?
I don't like all that clutch stuff that's baked into QBR, but doesn;t mean you throw the baby out with the bath water.
do you know how passer rating is calculated, you know how flawed that is?
I don't like all that clutch stuff that's baked into QBR, but doesn;t mean you throw the baby out with the bath water.
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i'm not saying he is the MVP.. but if he continues to put up numbers like he has (and we continue to win games), then shouldnt he at least be considered?Nick Foles as MVP? Come on now. He's played just over half of the team's games, and not all of those limited performances were good ones.
I fought the urge to just post "" and mock you for that statement.
we're 1-4 in the games he hasnt started
he has played in 2 other games aside from the ones he has started.. he attempted a pass in the chargers game.. and 5 at the end of that broncos massacre
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Well he's definitely put up good numbers lately. However, I don't think you can consider as an MVP candidate somebody with such a tiny sample size unless they personally had some sort of wild impact on their team (like the eagles running the table into the playoffs, instead of barely winning their mediocre division)
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i'm with you.. i'm not even sold on him being our long term solution at QB YET..
but that's subject to change if he continues to play well to finish the season AND i pray/hope he does so we can address other areas of need come draft time..
as of now, the eagles are 1-4 in games foles HASNT started and 5-1 in the games he has
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Well that's biggest problem with if put up a few numbers in 4th quarter in a blowout lost your qbr sky rockets
I do like the rushing aspect of the qbr but until that 4th quarter stuff is adjusted I can't mess with qbr
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no its the opposite, QBR, gives greater weight to statistics that come in close games, high pressure situations. I agree with it on a micro level converting 3rd and longs should be given more weight. I'm not sure I agree with that interms of close score games, I generally don't believe in clutch in any sport other than basketball.
Infact im pretty sure historically the most consistent indicator of playoff success ISN'T winning close games, its blowing out bad teams.
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Foles ain't winning no goddam MVP
Let the Norse God be great
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if the eagles continue to win.. and he continues to put up numbers..Foles ain't winning no goddam MVP
can he at least get considered?
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I am a casual football fan, with no real favourite (I just root for black QB's) so I have a outsiders perspective, but I'm sorry passer rating is arbitrary nonsense, and anything is better than that.
any one number rating system in a sport like football is going to be flawed, but ti deosn;'t meant that people shouldn't try...
any one number rating system in a sport like football is going to be flawed, but ti deosn;'t meant that people shouldn't try...
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Why can't clutch in football be quantified? Maybe there should 2 different ratings a clutch rating then just a qb rating
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Favourite is the correct spelling.
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If your really good when the game is on the line what do you call that?
I'm not saying its the most important thing but it does matter.
Because 99% of the time the players who are winning you games in the last 2 minutes, are actually good players in the other 58 minutes. There's no need to give them some mythical added value because they play 60 full minutes of good football. They are probably already either the most valuable player overall on the team or they are the most valuable at their position on the team.
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The argument would be that what you describe doesn't exist. Tom Brady has a higher chance of scoring at the end of a game because Tom Brady always has a higher change at scoring, etc.
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