NFL Discussion Thread - Hall of Fame Game: August 3rd

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If you don't count spygate (which most of the ESPN type folks tend to ignore) , I don't see how it's even a question that Brady's better than Manning. The only thing better about Manning is his draft status.

the problem is how polarizing spygate is . either people ignore it completely , or you have people like Chester who essentially vacate all the Pats wins

reality is always somewhere in the middle
 
Citing no sources but using data he says was crunched by both a Ph.D. in statistics from China and a famed Vegas bookmaker, O’Leary insists that breaking the rules is the only way to explain New England’s incredible success at home since 2002, and especially in the six seasons since the taping scheme was uncovered.

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i'd like more info on the background of this author as well :nerd:
 
Plenty of sources in the book. He literally lists ALL OF THEM.

Pick it up and read it -- don't steal a 1 star comment from Amazon and post it on NT. :smile: Just some butthurt Patriots fan trying to save face.
 
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Plenty of sources in the book. He literally lists ALL OF THEM.

Pick it up and read it -- don't steal a 1 star comment from Amazon and post it on NT. :smile: Just some butthurt Patriots fan trying to save face.

that comment was actually from an advocate of the book. i was just trying to see what kind of background the author has.

but i'm with you on the fact that i need to read it. i intend to do so.
 
Plenty of sources in the book. He literally lists ALL OF THEM.

Pick it up and read it -- don't steal a 1 star comment from Amazon and post it on NT. :smile: Just some butthurt Patriots fan trying to save face.

huh ?

also -- i dont see why people dont count the 2007-08 playoff record . spygate broke at the beginning of that season
 
Peyton is one of the greats.

But he's a post season mental ******.

We all know it and can't deny it.

Not going to harp on it, and when it happens again this year, it's going to be the same discussion and people reaching for excuses for him.

*shrug*

Wasn't disagreeing/agreeing with you, was just a little confused as to how you didn't get what he meant by your Peyton POV :lol:
 
Why does this dude Chester hate the Patriots/Brady so much

I know his wife was a Colts fan and he became a Peyton fan through that. Probably a lot of defending Peyton against Brady. Just my opinion at least.

And let's be honest, it's not hard to dislike them :lol:
 
I know his wife was a Colts fan and he became a Peyton fan through that. Probably a lot of defending Peyton against Brady. Just my opinion at least.

And let's be honest, it's not hard to dislike them :lol:

Am I the only one who prefers Brady to Manning?

At least Brady has a little ******* edge to him. Peyton is such a football royalty, never criticized, #1 pick, all-American golden boy.
 
I prefer Brady to Manning as far as on the field, having done the most with the least (at least on offense), but I've [mostly] enjoyed just watching both play the game. Of course, neither one of them can be compared to Andrew Luck, or at least that's what Broussard Inc tells me.
 
Am I the only one who prefers Brady to Manning?


At least Brady has a little ******* edge to him. Peyton is such a football royalty, never criticized, #1 pick, all-American golden boy.

do you hate all qbs who are selected #1 in the draft? or just the ones the colts draft? just curious...
 
Some Patriots fans realize by now that hating the Patriots is a favorite pastime of many.

Don't take it personally @Prez T  ... But even if I did think Brady was an all time great QB, I'd never, ever say it.

DSA is my dude but I'm fairly certain hes never once in all the years seen me post something positive about that organization. 
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oh trust me , i know :lol:

one of my best friends is a Raiders fan and literally refused to mention Brady as a top 5 quarterback until this year and made a big deal about getting over the tuck rule game to me

its the visceral hatred from people whos fan bases arent in the AFC east or the AFC that i dont get
 
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I've lived in NY, close to Vermont and the rest of Patriotsland for my whole life... Always hated the pats but Bellichick and Brady sealed the deal for me years ago.

I lost a bet for a footlong sub at my uncles house because of the Tuck Rule... Still salty/hungry.
 
 
They're unlikeable  win. 
Same reason people hated the Lakers and Yankees during their heyday.
Nope, that's not it.
 
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Am I the only one who prefers Brady to Manning?


At least Brady has a little ******* edge to him. Peyton is such a football royalty, never criticized, #1 pick, all-American golden boy.

do you hate all qbs who are selected #1 in the draft? or just the ones the colts draft? just curious...

I love Cam. I also loved Jamarcus in Madden.

No, I do not have any issue with the Colts, don't be sensitive.
 
They're unlikeable. 


???? Who criticizes Brady, the NFL's golden boy?

Yeahhhh but Brady is easy to mock or hate. The supermodel wife, the UGGs , etc. he's like a classic villain at least.

Manning is more of a good old boy type. So safe. I'm not into that.
 
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