NFL Discussion Thread - Hall of Fame Game: August 3rd

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i agree wit the former....as for the latter, cowboys were one game away from the playoffs the last two years...aint really THAT far away...
man i had the EXACT same reaction draft night...ive since done my homework and warmed up to frederick...dude is a day 1 starter for sure, worth the first round pick tho?? we shall see
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Maybe "no way" is a stretch. Not contending though.

Was just going to say, I root for the Cowboys to lose and I still get frustrated at JJ's decision making.
 
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Just watched the unveiling of vikes stadium . Wow is all I can say . Can't wait to see the vikes play . Hks is doin it big for the vikes!
 
Miami stadium woes have a familiar ring to them

As recently as three years ago Sun Life Stadium hosted a Super Bowl. Now Miami Dolphins officials say it's out of date. (Scott Threlkeld, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayun)
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on May 10, 2013 at 3:31 PM, updated May 10, 2013 at 3:40 PM



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The Los Angeles boogeyman lives.

After haunting New Orleans for most of the early 2000s and terrorizing Minneapolis, St. Louis and Jacksonville residents, he's resurfaced in south Florida.

Fear not, Miami Dolphins fans. The L.A. boogeyman is about as real as Manti Te'o's girlfriend. New Orleanians know this all too well.

Gritty, decadent New Orleans might have little in common aesthetically with glitzy, glamorous Miami. But on the subject of NFL stadium hazing it can relate.

In case you missed it, Dolphins owner Stephen Ross and Dolphins CEO Mike Dee threw a hissy fit when their efforts to get public funds for a $350 million renovation of Sun Life Stadium died in the Florida House.

The stadium was good enough to host a Super Bowl four years ago. Now it's suddenly an outdated money pit, fit to host only tractor pulls and home garden shows.

Immediately after the political defeat, the Miami Sound Machine kicked in.

Team officials called the 26-year-old stadium antiquated and said it threatened to jeopardize the club's on-field competitiveness. The owner cried foul and claimed he might now be forced to sell the club to outside interests.

"I wouldn't want to prognosticate what the future holds, but it's clearly bleak," Dolphins President Mike Dee told WFOR-TV in Miami last week.

Raise your foam index finger if you've heard this before. It's a familiar ploy, straight from the NFL stadium leverage playbook entitled "Football Fear Mongering for Dummies."

The NFL isn't moving out of Miami just as it wasn't moving out of New Orleans or St. Louis or anywhere else.

Los Angeles is no more ready to host an NFL franchise than Chalmette.

No viable stadium plan is in place. Of course, it hasn't had one for the past two decades but that hasn't stopped NFL teams from using the nation's second largest city as a stalking horse.

Not long ago the specter of a Los Angeles relocation threatened the Who Dat Nation. Remember those days? I do. Reporters from the Los Angeles Times, Los Angeles Daily News and Orange County Register were frequent visitors to the Saints complex back then.

Thankfully, those days are long gone. The Saints' books have never been in better shape. Forbes estimated the value of the franchise at $971 million last year, roughly a 66 percent increase from 2003 when Forbes started the annual analyses. Revenues have soared from $146 million in 2003 to $259 million last year. That's why Tom Benson can afford to buy an NBA team.


Miami Dolphins CEO Mike Dee, center, talks about the Dolphins' bid to bring either the 50th or 51st Super Bowl to Sun Life Stadium, Thursday, April 25, 2013 in Miami. At left is a rendering of plans to turn downtown Miami into the centerpiece of the Super Bowl. Also shown from left to right are former Dolphins quarterback Bob Griese, South Florida Super Bowl bid committee chairman Rodney Barreto, former quarterback Dan Marino, and former defensive end Jason Taylor.
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No, the Saints aren't going anywhere any time soon. Mercifully, Saints fans let rival teams fans deal with the idle threats. Between the Saints and Hornets, they've suffered enough relocation anxiety disorder over the years to last a lifetime.

There is a fringe benefit to the South Florida imbroglio for New Orleans. Miami's otherwise sterling resume as a Super Bowl host city has been significantly weakened.

Just as it did with New Orleans, the NFL will use its marquee event as leverage. No stadium deal. No Super Bowl. It's the oblong ball guys' way of playing hard ball.

If they can keep the Super Bowl out of New Orleans, which by all accounts is the best host city on the globe, for 11 years they can do the same to South Florida.

With Miami embroiled in a stadium issues, New Orleans almost surely will land another Super Bowl before Miami. That would inch the Crescent City back ahead in its rivalry as the most popular host city. Miami and New Orleans have each hosted the Super Bowl a record 10 times.

Of course, competition for the big game increases every year. Houston and Dallas entered the Super Bowl mix a few years ago. Now San Francisco threatens to join the rotation.

The 49ers' just inked a $220 million naming rights deal with Levi's for its new state-of-the-art stadium, which is under construction in Santa Clara. The stadium is the centerpiece of the Bay Area's bid to host the 50th Super Bowl in 2016. Bay area officials mailed bid packages to all 32 NFL owners this week. They were housed in self-playing iPads and promised, among other things, tee times at Pebble Beach and a private dinner with chef Thomas Keller at the renowned French Laundry restaurant.

Such inducements will make the Bay Area a popular Super Bowl site for NFL owners, officials and media.

It might even keep the L.A. boogeyman away for another decade or so.
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Been reading reports saying fredricks was rated a better run blocker than warmack, warmack is just the better all around player. Plus seeing all the o linemen go early had the boys willing to take fredricks early because he was "their guy".
 
I wouldn't write the Cowboys off just yet. Not on May 13th. The offense should be one of the better ones in the league next year.
 
I figure if they fix the running game which in terms mean fixing the o line the boys would be fine. If it wasn't for the 31st ranked running game romo would not have to play super man at the last min of the game. Not saying he should be reduced to a bus driver type of qb because we all know he is capable of running a offence, but he should not be throwing ad much as he do. Everything starts in the trenches espn won't tell you that tho
 
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I figure if they fix the running game which in terms mean fixing the o line the boys would be fine. If it wasn't for the 31st ranked running game romo would not have to play super man at the last min of the game. Not saying he should be reduced to a bus driver type of qb because we all know he is capable of running a offence, but he should not be throwing ad much as he do. Everything starts in the trenches espn won't tell you that tho
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I agree.
 
Listen.

Romo isnt that bad of a QB, granted the dude has **** the bed PLENTY of times.

Its not his fault his coach is ****

Its not his fault his Oline is ****

Its not his fault that the back end of the Defense is **** and they cant generate a rush outside of Ware

also its not his fault that his GM cant be fired and thinks he knows what hes doing

With that being said, they have some winnable games and with there being no clear cut favorite in the East, anything is possible.
 
Do the people in Dallas blast jones for not hiring a GM?

Whatever doesn't bother me at all but damn man I'm not saying he will but he should
 
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At some point if they keep failing he has to step down.
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He's gone on the record saying he'll never hire a GM. The guy is wired just like Al Davis, except Al Davis knew what he was doing for a long time. What has Jerry accomplished without Jimmy Johnson?
 
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Do the people in Dallas blast jones for not hiring a GM?

Whatever doesn't bother me at all but damn man I'm not saying he will but he should
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idk about dallas, but ive run across 2 types of Cowboys fans.

1 who are still enamored with the Star and those 3 SB rings and think dude does no wrong.

and the others are sick of his antics, i was a bar when the draft was going down, i heard a bunch of sighs when the cowboys traded back, and 1 dude walked out when they drafted that center
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JJ Watt said:
Listen.


Romo isnt that bad of a QB, granted the dude has **** the bed PLENTY of times.

Its not his fault his coach is ****

Its not his fault his Oline is ****

Its not his fault that the back end of the Defense is **** and they cant generate a rush outside of Ware

also its not his fault that his GM cant be fired and thinks he knows what hes doing


With that being said, they have some winnable games and with there being no clear cut favorite in the East, anything is possible.
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I agree.
 
JJ Watt said:
idk about dallas, but ive run across 2 types of Cowboys fans.

1 who are still enamored with the Star and those 3 SB rings and think dude does no wrong.

and the others are sick of his antics, i was a bar when the draft was going down, i heard a bunch of sighs when the cowboys traded back, and 1 dude walked out when they drafted that center :lol:
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I am a pretty big fan of the boys and it hurts to see them be so...average jerry hasn't really been pulling the strings since Garret first full year of coaching... But he does all the talking, which I think is horrible he says stuff not even he understands and as long as he is talking people assume he is still running things his son steven is more into the plsyer personell and contracts and honestly the team is going in a good direction under garret the guys he brought in via draft needs to stay healthy and the o line needs to gel andthey will be ok I'm not saying they gonna be contenders but they are slowly moving out of that bed wetting phase.. rome wasn't built in a day
 
Great business mab no doubt HORRIBLE GM his mouth and that damn victoria srcrets are keeping the boys relevant for all the wrong reasons.
 
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