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here's a goodie 
these guys are ******g idiots, i swear
these guys are ******g idiots, i swear
NFL Discussion Thread - Hall of Fame Game: August 3rd
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LMAO @ Putin big timing Robert Kraft. You can't make that s*** up.
Reminded me of this.
m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=vm1U5E44W90&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dvm1U5E44W90
Reminded me of this.
m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=vm1U5E44W90&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dvm1U5E44W90
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Why some corners can’t play zone coverage
Sam Monson | June 19, 2013
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The trash talk had been going all week, but when Roddy White got open deep and hauled in a 47-yard touchdown, leaving Richard Sherman in a heap on the floor as he stumbled late in the play, it boiled over. White got right in Sherman’s face and started jawing as if to say “who’s talking now?” This was playoff football, baby.
Outside of that play though, Sherman was targeted seven times by the Falcons, and they completed just one pass while he got his hands to three others. But people remember the play where he ate turf as White caught his deep touchdown and conclude that he was shown up, embarrassed by the trash talk coming back to haunt him. That was far from the case. On that play however he was beaten, but why? Was that play even his responsibility at all?
Kam Chancellor, who should have been playing free safety in the middle of the field, had taken himself out of the play by biting on the multiple play fakes, leaving himself late coming across to cut it out. I have seen people suggest that Sherman should be entirely blameless because of Chancellor’s mistake, but that just doesn’t wash given the Cover-3 defense that the Seahawks were running on that particular play.
When you watch tape of corners there is a clear divide between those that understand the shifting nature of zone coverages and those that don’t, but rather see them as invisible divisions on the field from which they shouldn’t stray. In this case the ball may well have been caught in Chancellor’s zone, but circumstances dictated it was very much in Sherman’s wheelhouse too, and he knew it.
With only one receiver to his side of the field running a vertical pattern, Sherman had nothing to keep him shallow or out wide. His zone that on paper was an even deep third of the field quickly became something else entirely. He essentially began playing man coverage on White with outside leverage, expecting the safety to come over the top and help out. The trouble was that Chancellor wasn’t there, and Sherman had been lulled to sleep by White’s lazy release, faking a run play before breaking into a sprint and getting beyond Sherman.
To his credit the Seahawks corner recovered well, closed the distance and wasn’t in bad position before White veered across his path late in the route and sent him tumbling to the turf.
He had been beaten, no doubt about that, but simply being in the position he ended up demonstrated a sophisticated understanding of zone concepts that seems completely lost on some corners.
I can tell you know where this is going…Nnamdi Asomugha.
At one stage in his career Asomugha was seen as such a good player that teams gave up testing him. That was made easier by the fact that the Raiders would play him at RCB – the side less targeted anyway – and the rest of that secondary was a far more appealing prospect when it came to putting the ball in the air, but nonetheless I think it’s safe to say that playing in a man-cover scheme Asomugha was a pretty good corner. Whether he ever deserved the Revis comparisons that some people were throwing around is another matter entirely. He appears however to have little to no feel for zone coverage, demonstrating a consistent lack of feel for the subtle differences and changes that zone coverage requires.
This play is similar to the deep touchdown over Sherman in that the safety help that Asomugha was expecting went AWOL, and he was hung out to dry to a degree. Where it differs however is in how each player reacted to that. Sherman knew instantly that there was nothing keeping him from sticking to his receiver and that his presence only made the completion harder to make. Asomugha stuck with the route until it was leaving his zone as it was drawn up, and then even though there was nothing to keep him from playing it, he throttled down, looked around for the help that never came, and basically put it down to the mistake of a teammate.
His Eagles tenure was littered with plays like this. Unlike Sherman, Asomugha never seemed to understand how route combinations, formations and coverages could change how his zone would look on paper, or when it was actually beneficial to ignore how it was drawn up and play what he was seeing. In this particular instance he was never likely to be able to make much of a play on a well thrown ball, but on anything less thanthat he could have been in position to make a play, rather than giving up because it was no longer in his zone.
As if to prove the point the next play comes in similar circumstances, but this time the play is made by a player who had no right to be anywhere near it. The Falcons line up with just a single wide out, split to the left. As Matt Bowen pointed out to me on twitter, when he was playing and teams would do that his defenses would break out all kinds of funky coverages to try and take away that single receiver, or at least confuse the quarterback out of targeting him. Oakland looked to bracket Julio Jones, and on the other side of the field they had Tony Gonzalez taken care of over the middle as well. That left Michael Huff, playing LCB with practically nothing to do on the play.
Instead of switching off and watching the action unfold he kept gaining depth and looked for work. He recognized the potential of a deep crossing route and his quick thinking and hustle paid off to the tune of an interception that Matt Ryan cannot possibly have been expected to see coming.
Zone coverage might in theory seem like a much easier defense to play than man coverage, because you’re watching the quarterback most of the time, but these plays show that there is more to it than that. Corners need to be able to understand route combinations, alignment, tendencies and have to learn when zones change from how they’re drawn up on the chalkboard.
It may be physically less challenging at times, but zone schemes can be far more mentally demanding than simply sticking to your receiver like glue and preventing the catch. Some players have that ability to think quickly on their feet and adjust or modify their assignment on the fly, others just don't. https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/06/19/why-some-corners-cant-play-zone-coverage/.
Sam Monson | June 19, 2013
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The trash talk had been going all week, but when Roddy White got open deep and hauled in a 47-yard touchdown, leaving Richard Sherman in a heap on the floor as he stumbled late in the play, it boiled over. White got right in Sherman’s face and started jawing as if to say “who’s talking now?” This was playoff football, baby.
Outside of that play though, Sherman was targeted seven times by the Falcons, and they completed just one pass while he got his hands to three others. But people remember the play where he ate turf as White caught his deep touchdown and conclude that he was shown up, embarrassed by the trash talk coming back to haunt him. That was far from the case. On that play however he was beaten, but why? Was that play even his responsibility at all?
Kam Chancellor, who should have been playing free safety in the middle of the field, had taken himself out of the play by biting on the multiple play fakes, leaving himself late coming across to cut it out. I have seen people suggest that Sherman should be entirely blameless because of Chancellor’s mistake, but that just doesn’t wash given the Cover-3 defense that the Seahawks were running on that particular play.
When you watch tape of corners there is a clear divide between those that understand the shifting nature of zone coverages and those that don’t, but rather see them as invisible divisions on the field from which they shouldn’t stray. In this case the ball may well have been caught in Chancellor’s zone, but circumstances dictated it was very much in Sherman’s wheelhouse too, and he knew it.
With only one receiver to his side of the field running a vertical pattern, Sherman had nothing to keep him shallow or out wide. His zone that on paper was an even deep third of the field quickly became something else entirely. He essentially began playing man coverage on White with outside leverage, expecting the safety to come over the top and help out. The trouble was that Chancellor wasn’t there, and Sherman had been lulled to sleep by White’s lazy release, faking a run play before breaking into a sprint and getting beyond Sherman.
To his credit the Seahawks corner recovered well, closed the distance and wasn’t in bad position before White veered across his path late in the route and sent him tumbling to the turf.
He had been beaten, no doubt about that, but simply being in the position he ended up demonstrated a sophisticated understanding of zone concepts that seems completely lost on some corners.
I can tell you know where this is going…Nnamdi Asomugha.
At one stage in his career Asomugha was seen as such a good player that teams gave up testing him. That was made easier by the fact that the Raiders would play him at RCB – the side less targeted anyway – and the rest of that secondary was a far more appealing prospect when it came to putting the ball in the air, but nonetheless I think it’s safe to say that playing in a man-cover scheme Asomugha was a pretty good corner. Whether he ever deserved the Revis comparisons that some people were throwing around is another matter entirely. He appears however to have little to no feel for zone coverage, demonstrating a consistent lack of feel for the subtle differences and changes that zone coverage requires.
This play is similar to the deep touchdown over Sherman in that the safety help that Asomugha was expecting went AWOL, and he was hung out to dry to a degree. Where it differs however is in how each player reacted to that. Sherman knew instantly that there was nothing keeping him from sticking to his receiver and that his presence only made the completion harder to make. Asomugha stuck with the route until it was leaving his zone as it was drawn up, and then even though there was nothing to keep him from playing it, he throttled down, looked around for the help that never came, and basically put it down to the mistake of a teammate.
His Eagles tenure was littered with plays like this. Unlike Sherman, Asomugha never seemed to understand how route combinations, formations and coverages could change how his zone would look on paper, or when it was actually beneficial to ignore how it was drawn up and play what he was seeing. In this particular instance he was never likely to be able to make much of a play on a well thrown ball, but on anything less thanthat he could have been in position to make a play, rather than giving up because it was no longer in his zone.
As if to prove the point the next play comes in similar circumstances, but this time the play is made by a player who had no right to be anywhere near it. The Falcons line up with just a single wide out, split to the left. As Matt Bowen pointed out to me on twitter, when he was playing and teams would do that his defenses would break out all kinds of funky coverages to try and take away that single receiver, or at least confuse the quarterback out of targeting him. Oakland looked to bracket Julio Jones, and on the other side of the field they had Tony Gonzalez taken care of over the middle as well. That left Michael Huff, playing LCB with practically nothing to do on the play.
Instead of switching off and watching the action unfold he kept gaining depth and looked for work. He recognized the potential of a deep crossing route and his quick thinking and hustle paid off to the tune of an interception that Matt Ryan cannot possibly have been expected to see coming.
Zone coverage might in theory seem like a much easier defense to play than man coverage, because you’re watching the quarterback most of the time, but these plays show that there is more to it than that. Corners need to be able to understand route combinations, alignment, tendencies and have to learn when zones change from how they’re drawn up on the chalkboard.
It may be physically less challenging at times, but zone schemes can be far more mentally demanding than simply sticking to your receiver like glue and preventing the catch. Some players have that ability to think quickly on their feet and adjust or modify their assignment on the fly, others just don't. https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/06/19/why-some-corners-cant-play-zone-coverage/.
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[h1]Darrelle Revis paid $50K for No. 24[/h1]
Updated: June 19, 2013, 2:52 PM ET
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AP Photo/Chris O'MearaDarrelle Revis paid a hefty price to get No. 24 with the Buccaneers.
Darrelle Revis was able to secure the No. 24 when he was traded to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, but it didn't come cheap.
A well-placed source told Paul Lukas, who writes Uni Watch for ESPN.com, that Revis paid safety Mark Barron $50,000 to get the No. 24 from the second-year safety.
Barron now wears No. 23.
Because No. 24 is part of Revis' identity he can claim the $50,000 as a business expense in a tax deduction, Robert Raiola, an accountant with FMRTL in Cranford, N.J., whose clients include athletes, told ESPN.com's Darren Rovell. Barron, in turn, has to claim it as income.
Revis wore the No. 25 at the University of Pittsburgh but was No. 24 during his six seasons with the New York Jets.
The Pro Bowl cornerback, who was traded to the Buccaneers this offseason, hasn't practiced with his new teammates as he recovers from a knee injury, but said he expects to be ready to play in Week 1 when Tampa Bay plays at MetLife Stadium against the Jets.
Revis has been running and cutting on his surgically repaired knee this offseason as he works to return.
After acquiring Revis, the Buccaneers signed him to a six-year, $96 million contract.
ESPN.com's Paul Lukas and Darren Rovell contributed to this report.
Updated: June 19, 2013, 2:52 PM ET
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AP Photo/Chris O'MearaDarrelle Revis paid a hefty price to get No. 24 with the Buccaneers.
Darrelle Revis was able to secure the No. 24 when he was traded to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, but it didn't come cheap.
A well-placed source told Paul Lukas, who writes Uni Watch for ESPN.com, that Revis paid safety Mark Barron $50,000 to get the No. 24 from the second-year safety.
Barron now wears No. 23.
Because No. 24 is part of Revis' identity he can claim the $50,000 as a business expense in a tax deduction, Robert Raiola, an accountant with FMRTL in Cranford, N.J., whose clients include athletes, told ESPN.com's Darren Rovell. Barron, in turn, has to claim it as income.
Revis wore the No. 25 at the University of Pittsburgh but was No. 24 during his six seasons with the New York Jets.
The Pro Bowl cornerback, who was traded to the Buccaneers this offseason, hasn't practiced with his new teammates as he recovers from a knee injury, but said he expects to be ready to play in Week 1 when Tampa Bay plays at MetLife Stadium against the Jets.
Revis has been running and cutting on his surgically repaired knee this offseason as he works to return.
After acquiring Revis, the Buccaneers signed him to a six-year, $96 million contract.
ESPN.com's Paul Lukas and Darren Rovell contributed to this report.
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Sherman was beat or 3 TD plays Ryan under threw and over threw 2 of those plays
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at being able to use that as a tax deduction
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I'm excited to watch a lot of big time corners this year...
Sherman, Revis, Patrick Peterson... should be fun
Sherman, Revis, Patrick Peterson... should be fun
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And I really wanna see what the Honey Badger's gonna do!
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What role do you guys think Tyrann Mathieu will have this year?
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so therefor matt ryan sucks
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Matthew Ice does not suck.
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Honey Badger: Nickel/dime packages. Returning duties.
Similar to Javier Arenas.
Similar to Javier Arenas.
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Watch out for Prince Amukamara
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I've been waiting for Prince to breakout for over a year now.
He seems too nice a guy at times. Time to get nasty on the football field.
He seems too nice a guy at times. Time to get nasty on the football field.
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He played well last year, So I'm looking for him to next step and cover No.1's.
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Better than your QB
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Its a blast from the past!!haven't heard that response since second grade
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Gronk.
Jonathan Stewart or Aaron Hernandez.
Jonathan Stewart or Aaron Hernandez.
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i wasn't serious
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Tebow about to be the Patriots TE the way Gronk and Hernandez going about ish
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