NFL Discussion Thread - Hall of Fame Game: August 3rd

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That NFCW thread got ugly real quick. Wish they kept it open.
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Yep.  One poster who will not be named started telling people to go eff themselves.  SMH.
 
Since we're on the subject of Niners/Seahawks:



The Seahawks have a reputation for having one of the loudest fan bases in the NFL. Those fans plan on breaking a world record for crowd noise this year.

The Seattle Seahawks are known for having one of the loudest stadiums in the NFL. Now their fans are hoping to break a world record for crowd noise, according to the Seattle Post-Intelligencer.

Volume 12, a fan group, is planning to break the Guinness World Record for "loudest crowd roar at a sports stadium" when the Seahawks host the San Francisco 49ers in Week 2 at CenturyLink Field, known affectionately to fans as "The CLink".

The current record holder is 131.76 decibels, set during a soccer match at the Ali Sami Yen Sport Complex Turk Telekom Arena in Istanbul, Turkey, on March 18, 2011.

CenturyLink Field holds more than 60,000 people, and the stadium was specifically designed to enhance acoustics, making it an intimidating atmosphere. According to the official site, opposing teams average 2.36 false starts per game, the highest in the NFL. The crowd has been recorded at over 112 decibels, almost as loud as a Boeing 747 engine. During Marshawn Lynch's 67-yard touchdown run in the 2011 playoffs, the crowd was loud enough to trigger a small earthquake.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/7/9/4507564/seattle-seahawks-fans-guiness-world-record-12th-man


As if that game wasn't gonna be crazy enough.
 
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We tried to start an NFCW thread, but a few individuals couldnt handle it and it was locked.  Dont know how you guys get away with having a thread like that and we cant though.


Because some NFC West fans on this board (specifically Seattle and SF) geniunely dislike eachother and they have no problem letting that show through in their posts.


That NFCW thread got ugly real quick. Wish they kept it open. :lol:


Yep.  One poster who will not be named started telling people to go eff themselves.  SMH.


:lol:

At least my guy had the decency to ask if he was doing it right or went too far :lol:

Elephant in the room. It was me I did it. Do I regret it? Sure, but I didn't process 9/11 very well and my kids bang on the bathroom door when I take a ****. That neither here nor there fellas.

The point is, deep down I don't want you guys to go **** yourselves..


You can assist each other in that regard....



Praise be to Allah and Go Hawks....


I literally was ******g around in there I did not expect the thread to get locked :lol:
 
I'm sure it was all in good fun and you dont literally want us to go **** ourselves.  I dont want you and your boys to either.  I just want Pete Carroll to (and I am sure the feeling is the same about our coach).
 
4 seasons before Matt played every game CJ averaged 1047 yards a year and 8 touchdowns a year.


2 two seasons that Matt has played Megatron puts up 1822 a year and 11 touchdowns a year.


I think Calvin Johnson is the best NFL player that isn't a quarterback but this notion that having him is the only reason Matt Stafford is decent is stupid.
I'm not ******** on matt... I just don't think hes $41M GTD over 3 years good.  Thats top 5 level money.

My point remains that he throws 45 times a game partly because he completes less than 60% of his passes.  More completions per attempt = more 1st downs = less att/game.

[COLOR=#red]Fair point But who or what else would you have them do?

Try their luck in the draft, is there someone better in the draft the Stafford right now?

Wait and have a huge cap of $19 mil?

Not re-sign him, wait for the open market and either franchise tag him ($22 mil?) or bid and lose him to the open market where some team (Jags, Cards, Titans by then, etc etc) who will pay him $90-$100 mil?

I think they were smart, no matter his stats. Brought the cap down, kept the best QB that they could have right now and someone who keeps the teams best player (Calvin) very happy.[/COLOR]
 
4 seasons before Matt played every game CJ averaged 1047 yards a year and 8 touchdowns a year.


2 two seasons that Matt has played Megatron puts up 1822 a year and 11 touchdowns a year.


I think Calvin Johnson is the best NFL player that isn't a quarterback but this notion that having him is the only reason Matt Stafford is decent is stupid.
I'm not ******** on matt... I just don't think hes $41M GTD over 3 years good.  Thats top 5 level money.

My point remains that he throws 45 times a game partly because he completes less than 60% of his passes.  More completions per attempt = more 1st downs = less att/game.
Fair point But who or what else would you have them do?

Try their luck in the draft, is there someone better in the draft the Stafford right now?

Wait and have a huge cap of $19 mil?

Not re-sign him, wait for the open market and either franchise tag him ($22 mil?) or bid and lose him to the open market where some team (Jags, Cards, Titans by then, etc etc) who will pay him $90-$100 mil?

I think they were smart, no matter his stats. Brought the cap down, kept the best QB that they could have right now and someone who keeps the teams best player (Calvin) very happy.
Most of these points you just made are moot, because Stafford wasnt going to be a free agent until after 2014.
 
[COLOR=#red]They are not because you (the team) isn't thinking of things Just right now. They are thinking long term, you're nearsighted on the subject maybe.

Next year he will be at $20 mill against the cap.

Now by resigning he won't be... among all the other points. [/COLOR]
 
4 seasons before Matt played every game CJ averaged 1047 yards a year and 8 touchdowns a year.


2 two seasons that Matt has played Megatron puts up 1822 a year and 11 touchdowns a year.


I think Calvin Johnson is the best NFL player that isn't a quarterback but this notion that having him is the only reason Matt Stafford is decent is stupid.
I'm not ******** on matt... I just don't think hes $41M GTD over 3 years good.  Thats top 5 level money.

My point remains that he throws 45 times a game partly because he completes less than 60% of his passes.  More completions per attempt = more 1st downs = less att/game.
Fair point But who or what else would you have them do?

Try their luck in the draft, is there someone better in the draft the Stafford right now?

Wait and have a huge cap of $19 mil?

Not re-sign him, wait for the open market and either franchise tag him ($22 mil?) or bid and lose him to the open market where some team (Jags, Cards, Titans by then, etc etc) who will pay him $90-$100 mil?

I think they were smart, no matter his stats. Brought the cap down, kept the best QB that they could have right now and someone who keeps the teams best player (Calvin) very happy.
Nah I'm not saying any of that... I believe a couple pages ago I started by saying "You have to pay your QB but..." or something to that effect... You have to pay him or you're SOL. QB salaries handcuff franchises in more ways than just cap hits.
 
[COLOR=#red]^ ah I must have missed that.

And yes they are Huge handcuffs. But better to be with a serviceable one than a Kevin Kolb.[/COLOR]
 
4 seasons before Matt played every game CJ averaged 1047 yards a year and 8 touchdowns a year.



2 two seasons that Matt has played Megatron puts up 1822 a year and 11 touchdowns a year.



I think Calvin Johnson is the best NFL player that isn't a quarterback but this notion that having him is the only reason Matt Stafford is decent is stupid.
I'm not ******** on matt... I just don't think hes $41M GTD over 3 years good.  Thats top 5 level money.


My point remains that he throws 45 times a game partly because he completes less than 60% of his passes.  More completions per attempt = more 1st downs = less att/game.

Fair point But who or what else would you have them do?


Try their luck in the draft, is there someone better in the draft the Stafford right now?


Wait and have a huge cap of $19 mil?


Not re-sign him, wait for the open market and either franchise tag him ($22 mil?) or bid and lose him to the open market where some team (Jags, Cards, Titans by then, etc etc) who will pay him $90-$100 mil?


I think they were smart, no matter his stats. Brought the cap down, kept the best QB that they could have right now and someone who keeps the teams best player (Calvin) very happy.
Most of these points you just made are moot, because Stafford wasnt going to be a free agent until after 2014.

If they didn't redo his contract Stafford would have had the biggest cap number in the entire NFL in 2013 and 2014. So if they waited a team would have backed up the truck and made him the highest paid player in football history. If they franchised him he would have got 22 million in 13 and 14 and like 25 million in 2015.

This is actually a flawless deal unless they were going to trade him.
 
I like Stafford and have no real problems with the contract. Someone else would've gave him that money at some point anyway, so if you're confident in him then go for it. The potential is unlimited, but his mechanics fell off something nasty last year and that's the real worry. He's going the Jay Cutler route. Phenomenal arm strength that overcompensates for a lot of mechanical deficiencies. He needs to get it corrected though or this contract will indeed be a waste. I think Stafford comes out of this just fine though.
 
Mid-July football craze is coming around again for me, happens every damn year watching old highlights and what not. Makes the wait unbearable :lol:



And yo there was an NFCW trash talk thread? Didn't even know about it. Good thing it got locked, would've lost my mind in there. Literally hate 95% of Niner fans (not really, but really).
 
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