NFL Discussion Thread - Hall of Fame Game: August 3rd

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CP1708 said:
All that.

For 1 playoff win. :lol:

You right, Romo is tremendous, we should all be so lucky to have Romo so we can go 8-8 every year too.
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It is pathetic, you have a great QB like that and all you can win is one playoff game? Place that is blame at the right places, Wade Phillips, Garrett and most importantly Jerry Jones not Romo.

Seriously, place Romo on New York, Atlanta, Baltimore even the old Philly teams, you think that he only has one playoff win?

Romos not the first, second, third, fourth or even fifth reason Dallas cant win. The Giants, Falcons etc often win in spite of their QB's (not saying either are garbage, strictly talking about their bad games) while Romo wins in spite of his team. Blame Jerry Jones, my only point.
 
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broncos lock up LT ryan clady. i see you elway.

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Blackboyfly said:
Seriously, place Romo on New York, Atlanta, Baltimore even the old Philly teams, you think that he only has one playoff win?
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I can't get on board with this line if thinking because QBs being successful isn't just who is the best but who matches best with their team; not purely based on skill. Guys like Ben match their team perfectly and I can't say a "better" QB (i.e. Drew Brees) would've matched his success (2 championships and 3 appearances). He simply wouldn't match the team dynamic and make the plays that Ben does when needed. Fact is, we don't know how players would do in other situations, we only know what they've done with where they are
 
Blackboyfly said:
It is pathetic, you have a great QB like that and all you can win is one playoff game? Place that is blame at the right places, Wade Phillips, Garrett and most importantly Jerry Jones not Romo.

Seriously, place Romo on New York, Atlanta, Baltimore even the old Philly teams, you think that he only has one playoff win?

Romos not the first, second, third, fourth or even fifth reason Dallas cant win. The Giants, Falcons etc often win in spite of their QB's (not saying either are garbage, strictly talking about their bad game) while Romo wins in spite of his team. Blame Jerry Jones, my only point.
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Seriously though, this is right. That team is built horribly.
 
JJ Watt said:
A place kick holder.
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Still, the two seasons Romo had a good team the Cowboys did something.

Flacco had a good team, Eli's defense was amazing in the playoffs, Rodgers and Brees teams both had near record setting performances from their defense when it came to turnovers, Steelers were an amazing team. Why is Romo the only guy that has to win by himself? All those other qbs had those things, but Romo can't?
 
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Blackboyfly said:
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Still, the two seasons Romo had a good team the Cowboys did something.

Flacco had a good team, Eli's defense was amazing in the playoffs, Rodgers and Brees teams both had near record setting performances from their defense when it came to turnovers, Steelers were an amazing team. Why is Romo the only guy that has to win by himself? All those other qbs had those things, but Romo can't?
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Well the Cowboys never did anything with Romo.

Also lets not forget that the Giants and Ravens were far from perfect on paper during their SB runs. The Giants especially were not considered top level from a talent perspective. And Ravens over Broncos was a HUGE upset, which was won because Joe Flacco went out of his mind.
 
Romo didn't have a single back run for 750 yards or 5 TD's,an offensive line that is easily one of the worst in the league, an offensive line that only allowed their Rbs to go 1.5 yards before being touched by the d (2nd or 3rd worse in the league) he had a defense that ranked in the bottom third of the league and a defense that also only forced 7 interceptions along with playing one of the 8 hardest schedules in the league. A defense that was missing it's starting slot corner, starting RE, both its starting linebackers, it's starting DT, it's starting Safety and it's best player Demarcus Ware was playing with one arm and almost non existent the final ten games of the season. The team was quite literally Dez, and Romo. It's a miracle that Dallas won 8 games with a chance to make the playoffs.
 
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I don't care what you think about Romo... If you watch the Cowboys at all and think he's anywhere near the top of the list of issues they've got, you're dead *** wrong.
 
There's also an awful lot of Sundays where he has no choice and has to fling it around hoping for miracles because the defense can't get a stop, the offensive line can't get any push, his RB1 is Felix Jones or Phillip Tanner, and he's spending snap after snap running for his life and/or on his back.

I don't give one damn where he ranks on anyone's list. You can win with him if you support him, and that's all that matters.
 
Right. He's not flawless.

But he's not a disaster and he's not the reason the Cowboys suck every year. He's good enough to win with.
 
Cowboys fan till the death of me. 

But what you Romo advocate's have to realize is that, all those stats are good from an arguments perspective, but Romo puts us in holes that are borderline impossible to get of... to stay current, that 5 interception Bears game, the 3 interceptions against the Giants at home, or the last game against the Skids, some of those interceptions were disgusting.

Say the dudes cursed, say he's a sinner outside of work and a higher power won't allow him to take that next step in his career until he straights up, but don't sit here and tell me with a straight face that if your team was to start a playoff run tomorrow and you had to choose between Romo & Manning you'd roll with Tony. 
 
LarryDavid said:
Cowboys fan till the death of me. 

But what you Romo advocate's have to realize is that, all those stats are good from an arguments perspective, but Romo puts us in holes that are borderline impossible to get of... to stay current, that 5 interception Bears game, the 3 interceptions against the Giants at home, or the last game against the Skids, some of those interceptions were disgusting.

Say the dudes cursed, say he's a sinner outside of work and a higher power won't allow him to take that next step in his career until he straights up, but don't sit here and tell me with a straight face that if your team was to start a playoff run tomorrow and you had to choose between Romo & Manning you'd roll with Tony. 
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I wouldn't take Peyton or Drew over Eli in the playoffs, doesn't mean they aren't good enough to win with.
 
Blackboyfly said:
LarryDavid said:
Cowboys fan till the death of me. 

But what you Romo advocate's have to realize is that, all those stats are good from an arguments perspective, but Romo puts us in holes that are borderline impossible to get of... to stay current, that 5 interception Bears game, the 3 interceptions against the Giants at home, or the last game against the Skids, some of those interceptions were disgusting.

Say the dudes cursed, say he's a sinner outside of work and a higher power won't allow him to take that next step in his career until he straights up, but don't sit here and tell me with a straight face that if your team was to start a playoff run tomorrow and you had to choose between Romo & Manning you'd roll with Tony. 
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I wouldn't take Peyton or Drew over Eli in the playoffs, doesn't mean they aren't good enough to win with.
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"Good enough to win" ???

It's the damn NFL, everybody in the league meets that criteria, we're talking about our franchise quarterback here... not some slot receiver who's good enough to get the job done. 
 
IDC what any of you guys say, what Romo and Dez did in the second half last year was :x
If i remember correctly also they had two games that Romo put dallas in the spot to win at the end and a WR dropped an easypass at the GL and the other Dez's pinky was out of bounds
 
LarryDavid said:
Cowboys fan till the death of me. 

But what you Romo advocate's have to realize is that, all those stats are good from an arguments perspective, but Romo puts us in holes that are borderline impossible to get of... to stay current, that 5 interception Bears game, the 3 interceptions against the Giants at home, or the last game against the Skids, some of those interceptions were disgusting.

Say the dudes cursed, say he's a sinner outside of work and a higher power won't allow him to take that next step in his career until he straights up, but don't sit here and tell me with a straight face that if your team was to start a playoff run tomorrow and you had to choose between Romo & Manning you'd roll with Tony. 
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"Bu... But look at his stats"

And to everybody saying he doesn't have a team good enough, didn't the Cowboys have like 10 pro bowlers in 08? Then they wanted to make TO the scapegoat and say he was a distraction or whatever. Can't blame TO, Wade Phillips or Jessica Simpson anymore.

Now Jerry Jones is saying Romo is gonna work harder and be a leader. :lol:
 
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DeadsetAce said:
in the poster's defense, pro bowl nominations don't mean anything

wasn't it the chiefs who led with probowlers last year?
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Man you know what? That's a really good point. :lol:

The Cowboys did however have some indisputably good players that year; a still lethal TO, a younger Jason Witten, Julius Jones before he sucked, Austin and Crayton. This was before the OL was atrocious too.

I haven't really said anything yet in this debate, but even though I'm a Skins fan I did feel somewhat sorry for Romo at times last year because he was pretty good for the most part amidst all their injuries and his margin for error was really small, yet he'd get blamed for a lot of their losses simply because he made the mistake in crunch time. I still am glad to see him fail, but I think as others have said if the rest of the team around him was built better he wouldn't be the scapegoat that he is.

Eli especially has been pure unadulterated trash at times and because he makes one or two plays in the 4th he's a clutch god. He can do that though because his team usually stays in games even if he's not excelling. Romo meanwhile will play well for 3 quarters but fall short because he is forcing it to try and play catchup or he's in too big of a hole.

I will also say though that Romos backyard freewheeling style, like Vick, Manziel, Favre etc lends itself to streaky offenses that can score in bunches but often can't move the ball to kill clock when they have a lead and are more prone to turnovers. Even though they score a lot of points these are often not successful offenses in the playoffs.
 
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