NFL Discussion Thread - Hall of Fame Game: August 3rd

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how do Raiders fans do it?
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They deserve better for real. Every year ESPN has the Raiders opening game (the only full Raiders game I watch) and their fans go NUTS and the product on the field is a joke.

Hang in there Jumpman.
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Told my man to keep the faith.  I can see the Raiders turning it around and winning the division in 2-3 years, once Peyton is done that is. 
the chiefs are putting together a team. they will most likely be running the division in a few years. the raiders are turning it around slowly as well but the chiefs are nearly there.
Just wait until they get a quarterback.
 
I know this dude didn't say the ******** would AT WORST go 11-5 this year. As an RG3 fan myself I hope they have a good season but they aren't gonna be running over anybody with their current roster. Their secondary is still crap and I can guarantee you Raheem Morris will be sticking EJ Biggers on team's #1 receivers again like he did in Tampa. I don't know whether he does it to him because he loves him or hates him, but either way the guy gets destroyed. Their WR situation isn't much to talk about which is why I find it hilarious that Garcon said they could have the "best offense ever". Garcon, Josh Morgan and Deverey Henderson are your top 3 receivers....that ain't scaring a single team in the league.
not that crazy of a thought considering you have had ppl over what the last two decades saying the cowboys would be a playoff potential superbowl team...despite only what having one winning/playoff season....lol But I think the ******** success all depends on not only the health of rg3, but how he adjusts to teams adjusting and now being prepared for how he plays...plus what Alfred Morris does. But they do have a decent schedule so they could go anywhere from 9-11 wins.
 
I'm a broncos fan, but I'm worried. Peyton looked very uncomfortable at home in the snow. Almost don't want home field advantage for the playoffs. I hope he took some survivor man lessons during the winter.
if you are talking about the game against the ravens the weather did not affect him in my opinion. the pick 6 was a pass the wr could not handle. the pick in OT was a bad decision. the front line did not get to flacco. the corners were embarrassed by the ravens speed. that wound has not healed. peyton will be ok and he said is stronger this year. if anything, the broncos winning the superbowl might put all those manning in cold comparisons to rest since the superbowl is in NY.
 
how do Raiders fans do it?
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They deserve better for real. Every year ESPN has the Raiders opening game (the only full Raiders game I watch) and their fans go NUTS and the product on the field is a joke.

Hang in there Jumpman.
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Told my man to keep the faith.  I can see the Raiders turning it around and winning the division in 2-3 years, once Peyton is done that is. 
the chiefs are putting together a team. they will most likely be running the division in a few years. the raiders are turning it around slowly as well but the chiefs are nearly there.
Just wait until they get a quarterback.
lulz. i see what you did there.
 
I know this dude didn't say the ******** would AT WORST go 11-5 this year. As an RG3 fan myself I hope they have a good season but they aren't gonna be running over anybody with their current roster. Their secondary is still crap and I can guarantee you Raheem Morris will be sticking EJ Biggers on team's #1 receivers again like he did in Tampa. I don't know whether he does it to him because he loves him or hates him, but either way the guy gets destroyed. Their WR situation isn't much to talk about which is why I find it hilarious that Garcon said they could have the "best offense ever". Garcon, Josh Morgan and Deverey Henderson are your top 3 receivers....that ain't scaring a single team in the league.

The fact that you said Devery Henderson and josh Morgan are their top WRs tells me you have no idea what your talking about. And maybe should have did some research or atleast watched a game or two before you wasted your time typing that crap above.

Go watch Josh Freeman be average. :lol:

I'm just assuming that's your team "Buc Em"
 
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if you are talking about the game against the ravens the weather did not affect him in my opinion. the pick 6 was a pass the wr could not handle. the pick in OT was a bad decision. the front line did not get to flacco. the corners were embarrassed by the ravens speed. that wound has not healed. peyton will be ok and he said is stronger this year. if anything, the broncos winning the superbowl might put all those manning in cold comparisons to rest since the superbowl is in NY.
you're right in all off that, but he looked absolutely miserable on the sidelines. I live in Hawaii, I would be too, but you have to acclimate to where you play. Hopefully he did that this off-season.
 
I know this dude didn't say the ******** would AT WORST go 11-5 this year. As an RG3 fan myself I hope they have a good season but they aren't gonna be running over anybody with their current roster. Their secondary is still crap and I can guarantee you Raheem Morris will be sticking EJ Biggers on team's #1 receivers again like he did in Tampa. I don't know whether he does it to him because he loves him or hates him, but either way the guy gets destroyed. Their WR situation isn't much to talk about which is why I find it hilarious that Garcon said they could have the "best offense ever". Garcon, Josh Morgan and Deverey Henderson are your top 3 receivers....that ain't scaring a single team in the league.
:lol: Devery Henderson isn't even gonna make the team. And the ******** had the 5th most YPG of all NFL teams last year and averaged the 4th most points per game in the league, only being outscored by the Pats, Broncos, and Saints. Running the ball is their game. They don't need a scary receiving core and the one that they have is solid enough. The best offense ever though is a little too bold though..
 
Funny y'all brought up Playmakers a few pages ago.

I just finished watching the first season last week; show was ahead of it's time.
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Looking forward to the HOF tomorrow; Warren Sapp's and Cris Carter's speeches especially.

The inductees on stage gonna need to be wearing ponchos with all the waterworks those two are gonna have during their speeches.
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So....enlighten me on who the ******** #2 and 3 receivers are. Leonard Hankerson and Santana Moss?
 
deal with that team :lol:

Not sure what you mean by this if you're talking about the Jano extension. For a kicker of his caliber it's a perfectly reasonable extension.

more so in general. like the fact that your best offensive player is arguably the kicker (dmac if he wasnt so fragile) and has been for a few years has gotta be tough. much respect to the die hard raider fans, of course. i didn't mean it in a bad way.
 
So....enlighten me on who the ******** #2 and 3 receivers are. Leonard Hankerson and Santana Moss?
Josh Morgan is the #2, Hankerson and Moss after him. Not to mention Fred Davis coming back from injury and the addition of Jordan Reed through the draft at the TE position. These guys aren't overwhelming but they'll get the job done.
 
deal with that team :lol:

Not sure what you mean by this if you're talking about the Jano extension. For a kicker of his caliber it's a perfectly reasonable extension.

more so in general. like the fact that your best offensive player is arguably the kicker (dmac if he wasnt so fragile) and has been for a few years has gotta be tough. much respect to the die hard raider fans, of course. i didn't mean it in a bad way.

They have Denarius Moore who is pretty good and Jacoby Ford can't stay healthy
 
So I was right...Pierre Garcon and Josh Morgan are your top two receivers :x Fred Davis if he stays healthy should definitely help though.

I'm just wondering if Shanahan is gonna pull a Shanahan at some point and bench Alfred Morris for some other random RB that's gonna run for 1,000 yards.
 
So I was right...Pierre Garcon and Josh Morgan are your top two receivers :x Fred Davis if he stays healthy should definitely help though.

I'm just wondering if Shanahan is gonna pull a Shanahan at some point and bench Alfred Morris for some other random RB that's gonna run for 1,000 yards.
Pierre Garcon is a pretty good receiver IMO. We were 9-1 with him on the field last year, him and Rob have good chemistry. I don't see what's so wrong with having Josh Morgan as your #2, sure it could be better but it could also be worse. Santana is also still a threat in short yardage situations even though he doesn't have the speed to burn anyone over the top consistently anymore. The WR corps isn't anything to gloat about but they're a solid group if you ask me.
 
Garcon is a really good #2 and a great #3 WR. I like his chemistry with RG3 but he needs to stay healthy and actually be consistent.
 
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