NFL Discussion Thread - Hall of Fame Game: August 3rd

[champcruthik]

Wallace is not worth the contract Miami offered.

A. Brown and Sanders are nice.

It comes down to Ben trusting Haley and the two developing a more sound relationship.

 

[lpheat22]

 

[champcruthik]

I'm going Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Cleveland.

 

[finallyfamous]

If the Browns can put together a consistent offense they can win 7-9 games.

the defense is

 

[651akathepaul]

If Cleveland ever had a chance to sneak up on this division, this is the year to do it. I think they're a solid football team. A lot depends on what they can get out of Weeden. Riding Richardson's coattails should make things easier. He's in line for a big year I think.

I still can't get excited about Cincy and Baltimore will take a few steps back this year as they regroup and semi-rebuild.

I'm gonna go ahead and say:

1. Pittsburgh
2. Cleveland
3. Baltimore
4. Cincinnati

Browns are my sleeper WC pick. If Weeden sucks and Campbell can't step in and produce then they're bound for 4th place again.

 

[champcruthik]

I strongly dislike Weeden. Cleveland dropped the ball with that pick. A first rounder no less.

 

[champcruthik]

Dude is older than Chris Weinke.

 

[ag 47]

Yeap.

RB gotta see that hole, make that cut and accelerate.

No dancing around or being undecided.

Not to mention not all linemen can do it.

The Terrell Davis Broncos probably had the ultimate success with the ZBS. How many other ZBS teams have won superbowls since? Honest question.

 

[shox23]

Bengals got the best roster in that division

 

[champcruthik]

Depends on Red Rifle.

He's not better than Big Ben. Main reason I'm picking Steelers.

 

[finallyfamous]

I agree.

They should've just taken Julio.

.

smfh.

Mike Holmgren may have been the worst ******g hire ever


dude did nothing

 

[651akathepaul]

Cincy 4th?

Chill.

Red Rocket

It's bold, I know. In all likelihood, Cleveland and Cincy are swapped, but that's going to play itself out.

I strongly dislike Weeden. Cleveland dropped the ball with that pick. A first rounder no less.

I think Weeden can be a capable quarterback. He doesn't have the luxury of taking forever getting to that point though.

 

[651akathepaul]

I agree.

They should've just taken Julio.

.

smfh.

Mike Holmgren may have been the worst ******g hire ever


dude did nothing

Eh. I don't think they got a chance to really see it all through. I liked some of the stuff they started there, but that QB situation is just so glaring.

 

[champcruthik]

I'd honestly take Mallet and Barkley over Weeden.

 

[finallyfamous]

QB situation in Cleveland has been so bad since 1999.

 

[champcruthik]

Tim Couch was a stud.

 

[651akathepaul]

I'd honestly take Mallet and Barkley over Weeden.

Really? I like Mallet's upside, but he's way too erratic from what I've seen so far. Barkley is yet to be seen, but for comparison sake, I don't see much about what Barkley did at USC that would standout to me as him being that much better than Weeden.

What is it about Weeden that is the source for all this disdain?

 

[champcruthik]

He didn't deserve to be a first round pick in any capacity.

Mallet has a cannon. Rare arm out of the Cutler and Stafford mold. Learning under the greatest Q of our generation.

Barkley was a consensus top-5 pick one year previous. A bad season at USC doesn't change his evaluation completely for me. He played behind a porous offensive line. Admittedly tried to do too much and forced things, thus the increased turnovers. He did benefit from Lee and Woods. What a luxury.

 

[651akathepaul]

Andy is the 3rd best QB in that division.

But on paper from top to bottom I think that teamed is very talented.

But you only go as far as your QB in this league.

I hope he can make that push this season.

AJ Green is only getting better, so he'll always have that security blanket, but I'm not a big Dalton fan for the long-term.

 

[sb]

Hope youre wrong about that.

lulz. what you did there, i see it.

 

[champcruthik]

You can't take a beating when you're riding the pine rest of your career.

Two years max before Cleveland admits Weeden was a failed experiment.

I'm still waiting for the Jets to see/admit that with Sanchez.

 

[sb]

 

Son got up.

Came back in that series and threw a TD

And they beat y'all at your crib.

I expect more of that when y'all come down to Houston this season.

that was a nasty hit by mays. schaub had balls to keep going. respect. houston losing though.

 

[dacomeup]

Already tired of the Cincy fans being hypocrites and the season haven't even started. You thought James was "dirty", "a criminal", and "POS". All of a sudden, "I love his intensity"


Shoes, why you dissin the kids??

James Harrison is the player you love when he's on your team and hate when he's not. Not hypocritical, it just is what it is. That's his caricature.

And LOL @ the Bengals finishing 4th. I know you don't like Dalton, but highly unlikely. Very good defense and a bunch of offensive weapons. Agree that it's the most talented roster in the division. Close with Baltimore.

 

[tyonenine]

You can't take a beating when you're riding the pine rest of your career.

Two years max before Cleveland admits Weeden was a failed experiment.

I'm still waiting for the Jets to see/admit that with Sanchez.

Sanchez was winning games though

 

[sb]

Yeap.

RB gotta see that hole, make that cut and accelerate.

No dancing around or being undecided.

Not to mention not all linemen can do it.

The Terrell Davis Broncos probably had the ultimate success with the ZBS. How many other ZBS teams have won superbowls since? Honest question.

where you been bruh? haven't seen you in a while.