NFL Discussion Thread - Hall of Fame Game: August 3rd

[deuce king]

 

London doing whatever it takes to stay in the good graces of the Diplomats front office. Can't knock the hustle.

You post more ******** stuff than any ******** fan on here, why is that?

And if it's positive, it's lies every single time? It's not possible he's telling the truth?

How was the locker room when you were in it?

You're the same guy that said the Skins would do NO worse than 11-5 this year "trust me".  Champ as far as I'm concerned you are officially unqualified to talk about any and all Diplomats matters going forward until further notice, is that understood??  

As far as the locker room is concerned, let's ask Santana Moss and the DMV's favorite pizza delivery man Pierre Garcon their take on the matter shall we.........

http://tracking.si.com/2013/11/20/santana-moss-criticizes-rgiii-for-not-taking-more-accountability/

http://nfl.si.com/2013/09/23/pierre-garcon-rgiii-knee-washington-********/ 

 

London doing whatever it takes to stay in the good graces of the Diplomats front office. Can't knock the hustle.

this guy....

One of the most respected guys in the league from day 1, but somehow he's doing whatever it takes to stay in the good graces of the Skins. Riiiiiiight....

Amazing, you pretty much said the same exact thing against Sally Jenkins.........why because it was something negative against your beloved RGIII.  You called her and her comments bias for the most part, now I'm telling you the same can and will be said for London Fletcher. 

Basically if Sally Jenkins is bias then so is London Fletcher, and I would say even more so truth be told.  Reason being is because London Fletcher is at the end of his rope and trying to transition into the next phase of his NFL career which is probably to get a job with the Skins in some capacity in the near future.  Make no mistake @DoubleJs07 we're going to call an ace an ace and a spade a spade around here my friend, that goes for me and you. 

 

[fraij da 5 11]

That's sorta dumb though... "until i see them do this and that with WRs that no one else wanted..."

Unreasonable benchmark.  Different QBs are in different situations.  Brady has had his advantages over the years, BB on some top 5 all time coach steez.

 

[stillin729]

Champ as far as I'm concerned you are officially unqualified to talk about any and all Diplomats matters going forward until further notice, is that understood??  

Why do you keep saying "understood" and telling people what to do like anyone respects or gives a damn the authority you think you possess on here

you act like this in real life? Somehow I think we know that answer

 

[Chester McFloppy]

Didn't Matt Cassel go 10-5 with Tom Brady's team, though?

Aren't the Patriots 3-5 over their last 8 playoff games?

Tom Brady is one of the best to ever do it, but the pedestal you guys have him on is absurd.

 

[fraij da 5 11]

And then there's that.

 

[deuce king]

 

Champ as far as I'm concerned you are officially unqualified to talk about any and all Diplomats matters going forward until further notice, is that understood??  

Why do you keep saying "understood" and telling people what to do like anyone respects or gives a damn the authority you think you possess on here

you act like this in real life? Somehow I think we know that answer

 

[stillin729]

Didn't Matt Cassel go 10-5 with Tom Brady's team, though?

Aren't the Patriots 3-5 over their last 8 playoff games?

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

 

[dmxfury]

That 08 team was a tad better than this current one

Wish Tom played though, could've been the one year that Steeler D might have actually beaten him

 

[va757va]

cassel went 11-5 right

Nd yea. If drew Bree's is coach dependant THomas has to be too to some degree. That mart cassell season being the evidence.


Nd that's a very good argument about arod. I never gave it much thought, but there's def a double standard there.

Peyton is crucified for his playoff losses, his fault or not. Shouldn't everyone be held to that sane regard?

 

[trappstar]

 

[Chester McFloppy]

That 08 team was a tad better than this current one

True, but I'd say going from Tom Brady to Matt Cassel is a huge dropoff.

How many teams lose their stud, MVP QB and still manage to win 10/11 games?
Colts didn't do it. Won 2 games the year after Peyton.
We saw what happened this year with the Packers.

 

[prez t]

That's sorta dumb though... "until i see them do this and that with WRs that no one else wanted..."

Unreasonable benchmark.  Different QBs are in different situations.  Brady has had his advantages over the years, BB on some top 5 all time coach steez.

if thats how you feel man , not going to say your criteria for judging QBs is any less legitimate than mine . i just know that hes had a revolving door of weapons -- most of which arent anywhere near to top of the list for WRs -- and the one year full year he had a hall of fame WR , the offense broke records . to me thats worth something

Chester -- how can you say "Brady is one of the best to ever do it" , but then say the pedestal we put Brady on is absurd ? i dont see anyone in hear saying "hes unequivocally the best ever , NO DEBATING"

didnt the Packers go .500 while Rodgers was out ?

 

[fraij da 5 11]

 

That's sorta dumb though... "until i see them do this and that with WRs that no one else wanted..."

Unreasonable benchmark.  Different QBs are in different situations.  Brady has had his advantages over the years, BB on some top 5 all time coach steez.

if thats how you feel man , not going to say your criteria for judging QBs is any less legitimate than mine . i just know that hes had a revolving door of weapons -- most of which arent anywhere near to top of the list for WRs -- and the one year full year he had a hall of fame WR , the offense broke records . to me thats worth something

Like I said, I'm not disputing his weapons I'm just saying your first sentence nearly writes anyone else off from being on Toms level unless they go x years with $#!+ WR's.

Eliminates a common ground to judge on.  You have to take those "reasons why" out sometimes because they're just simply not going to apply to the others in the conversation.

 

[jjs07]

You're the same guy that said the Skins would do NO worse than 11-5 this year "trust me".  Champ as far as I'm concerned you are officially unqualified to talk about any and all Diplomats matters going forward until further notice, is that understood??  

As far as the locker room is concerned, let's ask Santana Moss and the DMV's favorite pizza delivery man Pierre Garcon their take on the matter shall we.........

http://tracking.si.com/2013/11/20/santana-moss-criticizes-rgiii-for-not-taking-more-accountability/

http://nfl.si.com/2013/09/23/pierre-garcon-rgiii-knee-washington-********/ 


Amazing, you pretty much said the same exact thing against Sally Jenkins.........why because it was something negative against your beloved RGIII.  You called her and her comments bias for the most part, now I'm telling you the same can and will be said for London Fletcher. 

Basically if Sally Jenkins is bias then so is London Fletcher, and I would say even more so truth be told.  Reason being is because London Fletcher is at the end of his rope and trying to transition into the next phase of his NFL career which is probably to get a job with the Skins in some capacity in the near future.  Make no mistake @DoubleJs07
we're going to call an ace an ace and a spade a spade around here my friend, that goes for me and you. 

Sally Jenkins has had a few instances of shoddy reporting in the past (Lance Armstrong/Joe Paterno), but we'll give her the benefit of the doubt when she's adding gasoline to the fire when discussing the Skins. Sally Jenkins had NO sources to her article, but yet what she's saying is more credible than what London Fletcher was speaking on? How does that make any sense?

*edit*

For the 10000th time, no one said RG3 is w/o criticism. However, there are two types of criticism surrounding him. Valid - meaning FACTUAL, and Baseless - meaning, without fact.

 

[proshares]

You really cannot say a bad word about any Seahawk

 

[fraij da 5 11]

didnt the Packers go .500 while Rodgers was out ?

NO. 

 2-5-1

 

[Chester McFloppy]

Shaun Alexander is the most overrated RB of the 00's.
thisgunbgud

 

[stillin729]

 

[prez t]

cassel went 11-5 right

Nd yea. If drew Bree's is coach dependant THomas has to be too to some degree. That mart cassell season being the evidence.


Nd that's a very good argument about arod. I never gave it much thought, but there's def a double standard there.

Peyton is crucified for his playoff losses, his fault or not. Shouldn't everyone be held to that sane regard?

if im not mistaken , Peyton has 7 "one and done"s in the playoffs as the 1 or 2 seed , meaning he was at home and coming off the bye week . since no one is arguing that Rodgers is the best of all time and his playoff record is better , he doesnt get held to the same standard

 

[prez t]

NO.   2-5-1

damn , he was out 8 games ? i stand corrected

i think the biggest thing w/ Rodgers is the teams defense not being very good . losing a hall of fame MVP qb is devastating for any team , but is compounded greatly when the other side of the ball is below average

 

[stillin729]

Brady went 19-0 then blew a Superbowl against an opponent that had no business winning

He is still probably #2 behind Montana but show others a little respect

 

[va757va]

What about the Santana nd Pierre stories?

And it seems to me like your taking sides double jays.


Your not looking at this objectively at all.

Cause it can def go both ways. Sally can be lying, but London could just be giving the PC answer.


It seems to me a few skins fans write majority of bad articles about rg3 off as flat out lies, bad reporting, or Shanahan throwing slander.


Not saying it's true, not saying it's lies. But don't be bias in your defense.

 

[stillin729]

I can't pick a side on how I feel about RG3; I need another year but he does seem like a pretty big diva which we didn't see at Baylor or in his 1st year

 

[fraij da 5 11]

 

NO. 

 2-5-1

damn , he was out 8 games ? i stand corrected

i think the biggest thing w/ Rodgers is the teams defense not being very good . losing a hall of fame MVP qb is devastating for any team , but is compounded greatly when the other side of the ball is below average

Wasn't my favorite 2 months of football... 

3 losses by 14+ while Rodgers was out.

That's one more 14+ loss than Rodgers has had in his entire career.

 

[prez t]

Brady went 19-0 then blew a Superbowl against an opponent that had no business winning

He is still probably #2 behind Montana but show others a little respect

are you remembering the game correctly ? Brady led them down for a score to put them up 14-10 with 2:42 seconds left , then the defense let up a TD to Plaxico , only giving Brady and the offense 0:35 to get them in field goal range . id hardly say thats Brady losing them the super bowl ...