Man of Steel (Superman Movie Thread) - June 14, 2013 - NEW Trailer pg20

[lamekilla]

Lol I'm guilty. I'm a marvel head but I have mad appreciation for the DC heads. Y'all are cool lol

 

[clarkkent415]

^

. As long as it doesn't get contentious like the comicbookmovie.com comments section in here we are good .

 

[mronegative]

I'll get into it once this game is over.

 

[mronegative]

I'll say this much. Movies are about feeling. It's not math. The machine in Begins is dumb, yes, but it settled into the suspension of disbelief that we signed up for. It felt right in the world they built and the bigger story they were telling, even if the science was off. They gave us a MacGuffin: Scarecrow's insanity spray. And slowly built it up, more and more. Then they told us there's this bomb thing, and if it reaches the heart of Gotham, everyone in Gotham is gonna get hit with Scarecrow's crazy mist. So we gotta stop this train and we gotta stop that bomb. That was a well told, tense story, even with the shaky movie science, because they used things we trusted and felt real to us, to sell it.

That's a lot easier to swallow than, Bruce is suddenly a misguided, shut-in environmentalist who made a nuke by accident. Don't worry about it. Wait, worry about it, the bad guys have it now. And now they took the city hostage like Joker did. Except this time for months? Did I hear that right? The main tension of this blockbuster film, is that everyone just chills and waits around...for months. The Joker held the city for a night and that was pushing the limits. You're telling me someone can hold an American city for months like it's easy? And people have risen up and overrun the rich? I mean you couldn't tell, the streets are pretty clean and vacant. And there was barely any resistance to Bane taking over, because every cop in Gotham got tricked and trapped underground? For months. And all the while Batman (with a newly busted up back) is lying up in a prison in a pit in some random country rehabbing?

There's no scientific plothole for stupid.

That's stupid. The themes and ideas behind their choices are clever, but how they executed and presented them is stupid. That's literary. That's something you could get away with in a book, but not in film. In a movie, where you gotta show, not tell, that looks and sounds and feels stupid. They're interesting ideas that don't quite get over cinematically. If a character in a book said, "it felt like every cop in Gotham was gone." That could work. And that escalation of the nuke from the microwave thing in Begins and the occupation from Joker in TDK...I get that.

I mean, the pit is a beautiful, inspired idea that touches on so many themes and iconic visuals from Begins, but in this film, that's too much of a reach for a lot of people. And the little details like the guy punch his back into place...that fall that should've paralyzed someone rehabbing...or how the bomb and his rehab last for months, but he gets home just in time with only hours to spare...

The most important part about have leaps of faith or things that are tough to swallow in film, is that you don't linger on them. It's like travelling in the NBA, you can get away with a lot as long as you do it quickly and play it off.

They didn't linger on the microwave machine. In, out, trouble, get there Batman, done. They focused on Scarecrow's mist. We didn't linger on the Joker's plans. Look what I did Batman! Panic. Fix it or fail. Get ready for the next thing. They focused on the constant threat of the Joker. But in TDKR...we lingered on everything, and it slowly pulled a lot of people out of the film. Matthew Modine pulled people out of it. Daggett pulled people out of the film. The passage of time. The lack of urgency. The weak, weird payoffs to scenes and plotlines in the film. Those things hurt the story we were supposed to just accept. The pace was quick and thundering, but the narrative and characters just felt a little aimless.

Things just happened, and you should get over it, because more things are gonna happen soon. And that is good and fine for regular films, but not in this series. Nolan taught us how comic book films can feel, just like Raimi did with Spider-man 1 & 2. It's about progress. Yes, Batman Begins was comic-y, but that was bridging the gap from the Batman we knew in Robin and Forever and Returns, to the "real" world, where Batman has to order his ears from an int'l manufacturer. And no, it wasn't Spider-man 3 bad. It wasn't even bad. It was just good enough, and really amazing in parts, that it's disappointing that whatever compass they had pointing them in the right direction with TDK was off this time.

Bane's voice is a great symbol for this film. If you stop rolling your eyes, get over it (no matter how stupid it feels), what he says and the ideas and themes underneath them are as great as anything in the series. And that's TDKR. Get over the ******** up front and center, and it's as great as anything underneath.

 

[goldmember]

Watching the new trailer like this ..

LITERALLY!

 

[jiffyl00b]

People got way too hung up in the details like "How could he get back to Gotham so fast?!?" He's Batman, that's how.

That question especially, irks me . Folks could just connect the dots and it can make alot of sense. I mean...1. The scene prior to Bruce escaping the prison, is when Luscious Fox mentions that there's 23 hours til the bomb went off etc. Thats alot of time to get back, especially when you got billions to your name. 2. Batman Begins also showed that Bruce became a drifter, so even if he couldn't use his billionaire bachelor spiel, I mean dude was gone almost a decade just wandering around the world 3. He's Batman.

Didn't mean to post this here though, so on to MOS.

I love the mature and sentimental nature that the first trailers portrayed, but man....Imagine if we saw this new trailer first, holy smokes

 

[CP1708]

O touched on it briefly, I found the displeasure in Bane's voice similar to the hulked up Bale voice in Begins, almost full circle.

As was also mentioned, if Heath's Joker is able to roam TDKR while Bane wreaks havoc as well.......completely different look and maybe thee greatest movie of all time. Not comic movie, movie.

Bale, Ledger, Hardy, in roles they were built for, with Caine, Freeman, Oldman supporting......and Hathaway, JGL as new blood. ****. Pure, ecstasy.

 

[firepower]

I love the mature and sentimental nature that the first trailers portrayed, but man....Imagine if we saw this new trailer first, holy smokes

I think they executed the timing and the pace of the trailers perfectly, starting with the slow build up teaser to this one which is just fever pitch action -if they had released this one first I think I would have had a heart attack by now 

And wow, if you guys are debating like this over the realism of the Batman flicks ...what are you gonna be like when Clark dons his glasses disguise for the first time! 

 

 

[championboyz7]

What, Zack already had very nice produced films. 300, Warchmen, dawn of the dead. All excellent movies.
Nolan was probably just used for the name.

i agree with u except dotd. that was horrible. the newborn baby zombie was kinda tight though

Whaaaaattttt?
Dawn of the dead was fire. The first half anyways when they're getting into the mall all up until that wack music came on and every body became buddy buddy.
Imo the best zombies apocalypse movie in the past few years. Next to 28 days later.

 

[noblekane]

i could never watch the dawn of the dead remake. the original dawn of the dead is my all time favorite zombie flick. when they showed the first few minutes of the remake after wrestling when it first came out the whole fast zombie **** really drove me away...

 

[KingParappa]

People got way too hung up in the details like "How could he get back to Gotham so fast?!?" He's Batman, that's how.

That question especially, irks me . Folks could just connect the dots and it can make alot of sense. I mean...1. The scene prior to Bruce escaping the prison, is when Luscious Fox mentions that there's 23 hours til the bomb went off etc. Thats alot of time to get back, especially when you got billions to your name. 2. Batman Begins also showed that Bruce became a drifter, so even if he couldn't use his billionaire bachelor spiel, I mean dude was gone almost a decade just wandering around the world 3. He's Batman.

Didn't mean to post this here though, so on to MOS.

I love the mature and sentimental nature that the first trailers portrayed, but man....Imagine if we saw this new trailer first, holy smokes

At that point in time, Bruce was dead broke.

Anyway, I'm hyped for MoS. I didn't think IM3 wasn't as bad as everyone says it was but then again... I haven't read the complaints

 

[WASPS ANDD ASPS]

II like dawn of the dead. Slow AND fast zombies are cool to me. Stop acting like if it were to happen for real that u wouldnt be shook of speed zombies
U cant out run hunids of fast zombees. Just like u cant outrun death itself

I liked TDKR more than TDK cuz the whole chess game/back and forth between joker and Batman Made the movie feel episodic to me, like its just a bunch of smaller mini movie put together

With that said....

I hated selina killed bane. I thought the nuclear bomb was played out. Just create a brand new weapon.

 

[sreggie101]

That whole fight is awesome!
Power Rangers? Avengers had colorful heroes fighting giant monsters and TDKR is more like Power Rangers? Avengers could easily say it's "morphin time!"
After seeing Ruffalo turn into Hulk about a 100 times on Epix, cgi looks too fake to me. They could have done a better job to be honest. Seeing it the first time ont he big screen, you probably wouldn't notice because it felt epic.







And how does his back being fixed within a ridiculous fast pace affect how epic his back got broken? Dude was a doctor btw iirc.

Plus this is a film about a billionaire who became a vigilante wearing a bat suit and the whole film revolve around a giant metropolis cut off from the world because a couple of bridges blew up with a bomb that was driven around the city that will detonate in a few months. Bruce super healing his broken back in a few months should not even bother you if the other scenarios in the film did not suspend your disbelief.

i memorized the whole bane dialogue from this scene. it was too sick

 

[rfx45]

Henry Cavill Talks Potential Superman/Batman Movie


“I think it would be really interesting with the age-old Batman/Superman conflict,” Cavill told SFX, “because they are two different sides of the same coin and their methods are entirely different. And I think it would actually make for an interesting story as to why, first of all, they were going head to head and how. I think that would make a great story.”

When asked if this is actually a possibility, Cavill replied:

“Who knows, I’m sure there’s all sorts of ideas being thrown around at Warner Bros right now.”

 

[sreggie101]

As if I needed any more incentive to see this movie.

My money, have at it Warner Bros...



...

seriously, my checking account is so ready..

 

[macbk]

I feel bad for any other movie coming out June 14th- rest of summer.

 

[championboyz7]

I wish the power Rangers fights were that good, when I watch the shows now.

 

[big j 33]

Warby Parker Man of Steel Collection

 

[crazy ebw]

That trailer :x

 

[Sir San Diego]

I've never like or have been interested in Superman before seeing that "Fate of Your Planet" trailer. I'm in.

 

[rfx45]

Glyph/Shield Maker: http://glyphcreator.manofsteel.com/

 

[100proof]

If man of steel ends like this it would be the greatest movie ever made

 

[shogun]

Doctor Manhattan trying to gangbang Silk Spectre is better than any scene in any other superhero movie.

 

[rfx45]

Producer on the suit:

"It has to read, at first blush, as Superman. We went through so many iterations of the costume and yes, Zack did try very hard to make the underpants on the outside of the costume work – there are nods to it, with the belt and with some of the side detail on the costume, and that just felt more appropriate to the movie we were making. The other thing that was important for Zack was that the costume not come out of nowhere. It had to have a reason. We were building a world. We go to Krypton and we see this world, and we see that everything has its place. If they’re in space he wanted it to feel like a space suit, and he wanted it to feel like the underlayer that they would maybe put armour over. It’s also a caped society, so when you go to Krypton he wanted to see variations of this costume. And knowing that it was a caped society he wanted that to be evident when we were on Krypton, so when Clark finally finds the costume and puts it on you’ve established where it’s come from."

Kryptonian onesie!





On Lois:

"I think that our Lois is a little feistier and stronger. I think both characters are more realistic to us, to society now. Clark to me was always too good to really relate to. He was a little too much this perfect boy scout, and although Lois was feisty and strong she was still always the one being rescued. Not to say that she doesn’t get rescued in our movie, but she rescues him right back, in so many other ways, emotionally. And in our film, in our last setpiece, she has a very strong position. There’s something that she needs to accomplish in this plan in order for it to work. I like seeing that she’s a really strong female character, and very proactive."

On training:

"The training for the role was so much a part of the process of making the film. The guys carried themselves differently as they went through their process of transforming their bodies. It was a really important part of the preparation. You saw Michael’s posture change. As we went along in prep he kept becoming more and more Zod-like, and I’d say the same thing about Henry too. It’s like they would carry themselves differently. It wasn’t that they were wearing a padded suit, they actually filled the suit, but it did something to their performance at the same time, and I think helped them get in the head of their character."

 

[battousai701]