Man of Steel (Superman Movie Thread) - June 14, 2013 - NEW Trailer pg20

[donmega]

Great movie. Interesting interpretation. Awesome fight scenes. Cavill is indeed legit. Amy Adams! Zimmer is amazing.

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

I dunno, but this had more of a Nolan film for me than a Snyder one. Anyways, I pretty much enjoyed the movie. It's just that I really do not have that much emotional investment in Supes. More of a Bats fan. Still enjoyed it though.

And Kevin Costner, man. He brought his A game here. I really liked his scenes with both young and adult Clark. That scene of him stopping Clark on saving him, goosebumps.

For the first installment of a series (hopefully) or the first crack towards a JL movie (please), they did an awesome job. And I'm really looking forward to the sequel as I do think they would definitely build on what MoS has already achieved.

 

[fresh out dabox]

im gonna watch this tonight. i hope this movie is worth every penny

 

[noblekane]

i think fathers day might help with sales.

and im3 was not terrible!!!!!!

 

[rfx45]

My quick review:

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

I feel that Man of Steel is a really good origin story and a very good film, though it might be leaning more towards a summer blockbuster action flick.

I see where most reviewers/critics might dislike the film but to me I felt the action was pretty good throughout the whole film and concluding the giant showdown that really won't give you a chance to breath for the last 30-40 minutes of the film. Just when you thought the explotion couldn't get any bigger, it does. And I think that is exactly what a Superman film should be, hell it should be what every DC movies should be outside of Batman. Everything has to be spectacular and over the top because DC heroes (especially those in JLA) are just that much more powerful than their Marvel counterpart. I can see where critics can get tired and feel like less is more, I simply disagree. This is a Superman we need and deserve. It was all good and actually felt like a Superman fight, just pure destruction.

From the beginning in Krypton, it felt already action packed. I didn't expect Crowes part to be as big as it was. Then it moves to Clark and his flashbacks and yes the pacing was rushed but it seemed dull at times to some but I like it mixed with some actions. I like the way Snyder did it with the flashbacks than the traditional way of simply putting it in a chronological form. It really something that I didn't feel I needed to sit for again, Snyders way give you some actions and feats while explaining what made Clark the way he is. My guess is it had to be rushed or else the film might be 3 hours long, a Directors Cut with an additional 20-25 minutes might make it better paced. Overall, the faster paced of jumping from one scene to the other could have been handled better but it is somewhat in tune with the pace of the whole film.

It also felt like this origin film delves deeper into Clark/Kal Els inner side, Costner was great as his dad and really delivered in the scenes he is a part of. I hate it that critics gives MoS a negative for missing the charming version of Reeves, Cavills isn't exactly dark and he has a bit of that charm when Lois was in the interrogation room with him but it is nice to see him be more emotional than Reeves more suave version. His screams and struggles are a nice touch, he isn't perfect and still working is way through it. Just the flying part, dude was genuinely happy to fly smiling from ear to ear, exactly how I (and most of us) would be if we all of a sudden were able to fly. Hell even his reaction to his heat vision was great, he has to shake it off every time he uses it. It is a nice change to how he adapts to his powers. And speaking of Cavill, he isn't perfect acting-wise but built-wise, he is the best Superman there is for sure. Acting did felt a bit more robotic at times but Cavill pulled it off.

Cavills Superman isn't exactly dark or really that gritty either, it is still Superman in essence, just not a portrayal of Reeves as most seem to want to see. I personally do not since we already saw that in SR. Cavills Superman isn't exactly Batman with a dark past, though he is an orphan as well but he did grow up with great parents and I think you see that. I think the darkest part is just Pa Kent dying and Kal snapping Zods neck in the end. Also felt that reaction in the end was great on Cavills part, with that scream you can feel the resentment. I wish Lois wasn't there though to try and comfort him right away. Small nitpick.

Shannon as Zod is harder to judge, I thought he looked intimidating but he felt more powerful in the trailers. He was still a good villain but Faora seemed more bad-*****. Shannon was still good though, I think. That final speech before the final throw down with Supes was good, I think it could have been delivered better though.

Crowe was great, surprisingly big role but he was very good.

Adams was ok as Lois, not perfect and she could have looked a bit better. You can see her age seeping through the screen, acting is on point but someone younger would have really been my choice after seeing the film. And speaking of Lois, her relationship with Clark is definitely different. I can see where the critics would not like it, it is a big change on how they meet but it isn't bad. I like it that it wasn't very sappy between the two though that random kiss could have been left out. I feel like it is a way to make you think everything is done so that Zod can be a bit of a surprise, didn't come off that way though. Not sure where the critics are saying there is no chemistry between Cavill and Adams (Clark & Lois) and that they do not interact enough, they were together on-screen more than enough. Overall, I like their relationship and the new take on it.

I was really impressed with the Krypton Snyder created, it is just stunning and I love it. My guess is from this point forward, this version of Krypton will be used in the comics more, it is simply amazing.

What I don't like, I hate, HATE it that Clark is just too casual with hie secret identity. it's like he just ignores his dads wishes when he just said that his dad died to protect his abilities from the public and dude just confesses to a priest. Then Lois finds out who he is right away (not bad since she is supposedly a Pulitzer Prized reporter) and just leads the cops of gave her a ride to Kents farm and you see Superman in full costume right there with Martha and TADAAAA!!!!! There he is Superman... in Kent farm... and the whole world knows Lois knows his true identity... Cover blown!

CGI was great but some parts did need some tweaking, some looked overly fake like I was watching Matrix Reloaded all over again.


I really do think the critics was very resistant with any change on the Superman story and just wants to see a retooling of Donner and Reeves version. I see it written all the time. I see what they are saying and understand that it is what they grew up with but I still managed to love this version. It isn't perfect, it is no TDK by any stretch but an new take on the origins of Superman it is and done well at that.

 

[degenerate423]

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...

 

[rfx45]

That is awesome. I'll get one, I love working out with UA compression shirts. I'd love to see it in sleeveless form too.

David Goyer on Justice League and the Man of Steel Sequel


Man of Steel screenwriter David S. Goyer has been talking about a sequel and the possible Justice League movie. Regarding the latter, he tells Hey U Guys that it would definitely feature a new Batman and not Christian Bale, as was rumored before.

"It would be disingenuous to say Warner Bros doesn’t hope that this would be the starting point for a shared universe. And Zack has said that Bruce Wayne exists in this universe. It would be a different Bruce Wayne from Chris’ [Nolan] Dark Knight trilogy, and it would be disingenuous to say that Zack and I haven’t had various conversations on set, around ‘what if’ and ‘moving forward’.

That having been said, it’s all going to depend on the next few weeks. Warner Bros has hopes that there will be more Man Of Steel films, and that this will be the beginning of a shared universe. We could meet Batman, or Wonder Woman, or the Justice League in these movies. But they all hinge on box office reception."

While the film is already doing really well, Goyer talked more about what we can see if Man of Steel performs as well as Warner Bros. hopes it will.

"I think Warner Bros has seen – and Chris deserves the biggest credit for this – that we were able to revitalise Batman and put it into the first billion dollar superhero film. And they’re hoping that Superman will be revistalised as well. And if we can do Batman and Superman, then maybe we can move on to Wonder Woman, and The Flash, and characters like that."

Goyer also talked to CraveOnline about Lex Luthor appearing in the Man of Steel universe.

"If Lex is going to exist in the world, we would presumably have to give him the same treatment that we gave Lois Lane in the first film, which is make him a credible character. [...] He’s gotta be a man of incredible intelligence, and presumably a man of incredible wealth and incredible resources."

 

[big j 33]

Saw it this morning... overall I loved it. It wasn't perfect, but I didn't find myself having to turn my brain off to enjoy it like a big, dumb, summer blockbuster.

Costner and Crowe were terrific, I thought Cavill did a fine job as Clark and was a very good Superman, I'm a big fan of Amy Adams so maybe I'm biased but I liked her Lois, and Michael Shannon was solid as expected.

I'm sure on a second viewing and once people start nitpicking, I'll come down a bit, but I'm more than satisfied with the interpretation and how it played out on screen. I said before I'm happy if they reboot Superman into a world I'm interested in, with solid performances by the leads, and great action sequences. They delivered on that so I'm very pleased. Won't be touching any of Nolan's Batmans but I didn't expect it to. It's got me excited about Superman and what they can do next.

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

The action sequences, while incredible especially in IMAX 3D, could have been trimmed a bit in exchange for more character moments or spacing things out a bit. Lois is saved in the beginning, then quick shot here, quick shot there, and she's at the graveyard. It wasn't terrible or insulting or anything, but it was just easy. Those little things here and there were probably the biggest problem with it. I loved everything on Krypton, so I'm hesitant to cut that down at all, so you'd have to scale back some of the action a bit and that might have helped

 

[degenerate423]

Why wouldn't they use Christian Bale as Batman?

...

 

[shogun]

Why wouldn't they use Christian Bale as Batman? ...

He said they wanted a shared universe. The previous Batman existed in a world where no one had powers. Plus sounds like they want to start fresh.

 

[castomere]

I got my MoS Tees, just not sure what to wear. Got the black, red/blue, black tank and black zod. Will likely rock this black MoS tee though.

Post pics without the tee on please.

 

[dj zink]

i hope it's good heading out to see it tonight

 

[lamekilla]

My quick review:

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

I feel that Man of Steel is a really good origin story and a very good film, though it might be leaning more towards a summer blockbuster action flick.

I see where most reviewers/critics might dislike the film but to me I felt the action was pretty good throughout the whole film and concluding the giant showdown that really won't give you a chance to breath for the last 30-40 minutes of the film. Just when you thought the explotion couldn't get any bigger, it does. And I think that is exactly what a Superman film should be, hell it should be what every DC movies should be outside of Batman. Everything has to be spectacular and over the top because DC heroes (especially those in JLA) are just that much more powerful than their Marvel counterpart. I can see where critics can get tired and feel like less is more, I simply disagree. This is a Superman we need and deserve. It was all good and actually felt like a Superman fight, just pure destruction.

From the beginning in Krypton, it felt already action packed. I didn't expect Crowes part to be as big as it was. Then it moves to Clark and his flashbacks and yes the pacing was rushed but it seemed dull at times to some but I like it mixed with some actions. I like the way Snyder did it with the flashbacks than the traditional way of simply putting it in a chronological form. It really something that I didn't feel I needed to sit for again, Snyders way give you some actions and feats while explaining what made Clark the way he is. My guess is it had to be rushed or else the film might be 3 hours long, a Directors Cut with an additional 20-25 minutes might make it better paced. Overall, the faster paced of jumping from one scene to the other could have been handled better but it is somewhat in tune with the pace of the whole film.

It also felt like this origin film delves deeper into Clark/Kal Els inner side, Costner was great as his dad and really delivered in the scenes he is a part of. I hate it that critics gives MoS a negative for missing the charming version of Reeves, Cavills isn't exactly dark and he has a bit of that charm when Lois was in the interrogation room with him but it is nice to see him be more emotional than Reeves more suave version. His screams and struggles are a nice touch, he isn't perfect and still working is way through it. Just the flying part, dude was genuinely happy to fly smiling from ear to ear, exactly how I (and most of us) would be if we all of a sudden were able to fly. Hell even his reaction to his heat vision was great, he has to shake it off every time he uses it. It is a nice change to how he adapts to his powers. And speaking of Cavill, he isn't perfect acting-wise but built-wise, he is the best Superman there is for sure. Acting did felt a bit more robotic at times but Cavill pulled it off.

Cavills Superman isn't exactly dark or really that gritty either, it is still Superman in essence, just not a portrayal of Reeves as most seem to want to see. I personally do not since we already saw that in SR. Cavills Superman isn't exactly Batman with a dark past, though he is an orphan as well but he did grow up with great parents and I think you see that. I think the darkest part is just Pa Kent dying and Kal snapping Zods neck in the end. Also felt that reaction in the end was great on Cavills part, with that scream you can feel the resentment. I wish Lois wasn't there though to try and comfort him right away. Small nitpick.

Shannon as Zod is harder to judge, I thought he looked intimidating but he felt more powerful in the trailers. He was still a good villain but Faora seemed more bad-*****. Shannon was still good though, I think. That final speech before the final throw down with Supes was good, I think it could have been delivered better though.

Crowe was great, surprisingly big role but he was very good.

Adams was ok as Lois, not perfect and she could have looked a bit better. You can see her age seeping through the screen, acting is on point but someone younger would have really been my choice after seeing the film. And speaking of Lois, her relationship with Clark is definitely different. I can see where the critics would not like it, it is a big change on how they meet but it isn't bad. I like it that it wasn't very sappy between the two though that random kiss could have been left out. I feel like it is a way to make you think everything is done so that Zod can be a bit of a surprise, didn't come off that way though. Not sure where the critics are saying there is no chemistry between Cavill and Adams (Clark & Lois) and that they do not interact enough, they were together on-screen more than enough. Overall, I like their relationship and the new take on it.

I was really impressed with the Krypton Snyder created, it is just stunning and I love it. My guess is from this point forward, this version of Krypton will be used in the comics more, it is simply amazing.

What I don't like, I hate, HATE it that Clark is just too casual with hie secret identity. it's like he just ignores his dads wishes when he just said that his dad died to protect his abilities from the public and dude just confesses to a priest. Then Lois finds out who he is right away (not bad since she is supposedly a Pulitzer Prized reporter) and just leads the cops of gave her a ride to Kents farm and you see Superman in full costume right there with Martha and TADAAAA!!!!! There he is Superman... in Kent farm... and the whole world knows Lois knows his true identity... Cover blown!

CGI was great but some parts did need some tweaking, some looked overly fake like I was watching Matrix Reloaded all over again.


I really do think the critics was very resistant with any change on the Superman story and just wants to see a retooling of Donner and Reeves version. I see it written all the time. I see what they are saying and understand that it is what they grew up with but I still managed to love this version. It isn't perfect, it is no TDK by any stretch but an new take on the origins of Superman it is and done well at that.

Really great review RFX. I'm about to watch the movie again actually. It was so late and I fell asleep when Zod brought him on the ship and told him about krypton and woke up right before faora died. Lol that's why I felt like they didnt elaborate on krypton and the codex. I'm literally heading to the theatre again as we speak to watch the film

 

[MarvelSux]

just want to say Faora and Henry=Superman

 

[blakep267]

I agree with rfx. It's sorta like in the new Spider-Man where he goes around pretty much not caring about his secret identity. Also no kryptonite

Movie was a good summer blockbuster. In the same way transformers or avengers was. I'd probably just watch the action scenes over again when I buy the bluray

 

[ruxxx]

Movie was awesome!
(Please note that I do NOT say "awesome")

I saw it in 3D but to be honest... I don't think you HAVE to see this in 3D (if you understand what i'm saying).

All I could think about during the fight scenes was Dragonball Z. They're VERY intense.

The format of the film was a little unorthodox but I think it worked. This wasn't supposed to be Smallville on the big screen.

 

[degenerate423]

Why wouldn't they use Christian Bale as Batman?

...

He said they wanted a shared universe. The previous Batman existed in a world where no one had powers. Plus sounds like they want to start fresh.

It wouldn't be hard to write Superman into Nolan's universe.  I mean, Superman is an alien, so if you can accept that then it's not too farfetched.  The others would be a stretch though, but not impossible to write in.  I think you're right, Goyer probably wants to move from under Nolan's shadow and start fresh...

 

[blakep267]

Movie was awesome!
(Please note that I do NOT say "awesome")

I saw it in 3D but to be honest... I don't think you HAVE to see this in 3D (if you understand what i'm saying).

All I could think about during the fight scenes was Dragonball Z. They're VERY intense.

The format of the film was a little unorthodox but I think it worked. This wasn't supposed to be Smallville on the big screen.

Yea. I kept thinking to myself, man I wish this was dragonballz instead. I wanted to see a kamehameha

 

[Kimchi Papi]

Came back from watching & l loved it. Great, great, great summer action flick. I love what Goyer & Nolan wrote. I didn't bother reading any of the critics (good or bad). To tell you the truth, since Roger Ebert died, I haven't read any critical reviews of movies because I feel like the critical world lost it's soul the day he died. The only one I'll read is NT's own venom lyrix so I can support an NT member doing something positive.

The casting team for this movie did a phenomenal job because everyone in the movie pulled their weight. Even Laurence Fishburne. There was a pivotal scene where he just carried it with the right amount of gravitas. I'm not sure who played the better role as father between Crowe & Costner as I liked them both. I even liked Law & Order vet Christopher Meloni in his role. Kudos to Antje Traue playing Zod's right hand woman Faora-Ul.

The action in this is non-stop but in a good way IMO. The only criticism I had was that Synder was a little too heavy handed with the special effects because sometimes some of the sequences liked like the visual equivalent of digital noise.

The only other thing is that Hans Zimmer did a solid job with the score, but none of the music was memorable. There was no iconic song that should've made a lasting impression like a lot (if not all) of the work John Williams has done. That's my only other criticism.

If I had to choose this or Donner's Superman as my reference point, I'd pick MOS unequivocally.

I'm looking forward to seeing this again.

* I saw this in IMAX & thought the audio was turned up waaay too loud. There were several moments I saw my son & other audience members covering their ears. Did anyone else think their IMAX experience was too loud?

 

[Kimchi Papi]

Also no kryptonite

My answer in spoiler mode...

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

They didn't come right out & say it, but when he entered Zod's ship, Kal-El did get weak because the ship had the equivalent of Krypton's atmosphere.

 

[Moderngz]

I went in with low expectations not really a superman fan. I came out from the theaters being a fan now haha. Movie was awesome. That is all.

 

[blakep267]

Also no kryptonite

My answer in spoiler mode...

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

They didn't come right out & say it, but when he entered Zod's ship, Kal-El did get weak because the ship had the equivalent of Krypton's atmosphere.

i know that part, but I kinda felt like there was no need to not include it.

also

Spoiler

so how does being thrown around a city, and all the damage zod and superman took not kill them, but breaking a neck is possible? I know its nitpicking, but I found it kinda weird. Like nothing that was thrown at them did any damage really, but their necks are weak?

 

[36Hypno]

I loved it. There are parts I can nit pick but overall I was pleased. The sort of blah way they treated his identity stands out.

@blake no need for kryptonite. Its a crutch that I hope they stay away from.

 

[Kimchi Papi]

blakep267 -

It's funny having to answer in spoiler mode...

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

Kal-El didn't have the tactical advantage until he had Zod in a head lock. Plus Zod said something that made sense up until that point. Kal-El wasn't bred to be the warrior that Zod was. I mean fKal-El was constantly programmed by Jonathan Kent not to flex his powers which proved very difficult to overcome.

Kal-El also had morality playing against him preventing him from outright killing Zod until that final point when Zod was getting ready to kill that family. It made Kal-El snap & inturn snap Zod's neck. My 2 cents anyway

Anyone else love how they showed the heat vision? I looved it. Something so simple but so satisfying to me...

The more I think about it, those fight scenes really do kinda remind you of Dragonball Z... My son used to love playing Raging Blast which had a destroyed city landscape as one of the zones to play in. He used to love throwing dudes through buildings...

 

[blakep267]

blakep267 -

It's funny having to answer in spoiler mode...

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

Kal-El didn't have the tactical advantage until he had Zod in a head lock. Plus Zod said something that made sense up until that point. Kal-El wasn't bred to be the warrior that Zod was. Kal-El was constantly programmed by Jonathan Kent not to flex his powers which proved very difficult to overcome.

Kal-El also had morality playing against him preventing him from outright killing Zod until that final point when Zod was getting ready to kill that family. It made Kal-El snap & inturn snap Zod's neck. My 2 cents anyway

Anyone else love how they showed the heat vision? I looved it. Something so simple but so satisfying to me...

Spoiler

I meant in the physical sense. Like kryptonians are indestructibale at 1 moment, but succeptible to having their necks broke.

and yea, the heat vision was dope. the veins popping out etc

I loved it. There are parts I can nit pick but overall I was pleased. The sort of blah way they treated his identity stands out.

@blake no need for kryptonite. Its a crutch that I hope they stay away from.

i agree that its a crutch, but isnt it a needed crutch. To sorta level the playing field for non god like villains, threats etc.

 

[ecruteakcityboy]

Just got back from seeing it in IMAX as well and OMFG the fight scenes were awesome. :x
The visuals in the fight scenes were worth the admission price alone and the sound was not too loud at all.

Like few have said the movie isn't perfect but it's still great. The pacing could have been done better because at times it felt like I was watching a long trailer but it's all good.
Hopefully in a sequel we get a little more character development and relationship building between characters.

Just a little upset that there was no clue or tease (similar to Commissioner Gordon showing the Joker card to Bats in BB) at a villain in a sequel. Oh well.

Overall the movie was