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RFX or anyone... can you explain Hollywood's obsession with making all new superhero movies 'dark' now?

Simply a 'dark' batman was a hit and now everybody wants to follow suit. annoys the **** out of me.
Ya, bring back the days of Joel Schumacher made Batman flicks laugh.gif
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Ya, bring back the days of Joel Schumacher made Batman flicks laugh.gif

from a kids perspective, those movies were awesome. I loved them thangs. The toys etc.
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from a kids perspective, those movies were awesome. I loved them thangs. The toys etc.

i loveeeeeeddddddddd Power Rangers as a kid too....just saying, we grow up as an audience and so should the films...
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Ya, bring back the days of Joel Schumacher made Batman flicks laugh.gif

from a kids perspective, those movies were awesome. I loved them thangs. The toys etc.

Even Schumacher admitted that he made those movies to sell toys.

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"I think what's very interesting about Batman and how brilliant Chris Nolan is is, if you look at the last Batman, ours were at a much simpler time," Schumacher says. "Our job was to entertain the whole family. To make it fun and sell a lot of toys. It was a franchise. The last one is really about what we're going through, the extraordinary gap between the haves and the have-nots... I think right now the last Batman is very reflective of the times we're living in, which are scary times. I'm not a predictor of revolutions and I don't think there will be one in the United States, but there are the seeds of it. When you have too many poor and too many rich, those are the seeds of revolution."

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/173919-joel-schumacher-comments-on-christopher-nolans-batman-trilogy
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i loveeeeeeddddddddd Power Rangers as a kid too....just saying, we grow up as an audience and so should the films...

oh definitely, its just I dont bash stuff just because Im older. I just say its not meant for me, at this point in time
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Even Schumacher admitted that he made those movies to sell toys.
http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/173919-joel-schumacher-comments-on-christopher-nolans-batman-trilogy

thats sorta why, even tho I may not think transformers have been very good. Im sure there are kids out there who love those movies and the toys. cant knock the hustle
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BEHIND THE STEEL CURTAIN: Official Breakdown of the ‘MAN OF STEEL’ Trailer

Written By: Colin J. Liotta | December 11, 2012

BEHIND THE STEEL CURTAIN: Official Breakdown of the ‘MAN OF STEEL’ Trailer

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The official trailer for Zack Snyder’s Man of Steel hit the web today and it looks epic.  The trailer gives you a great idea of the scope of the film in terms of its action sequences, but you can also tell that this movie will be heavily focused on who Clark is as a character, and what his path to becoming Superman entails.

Here is my official breakdown of the newest trailer, including early theories on what some of the scenes represent.


0:00-0:12 – Studio logos: Warner Bros., Legendary, DC Comics, Syncopy


0:13-0:17Elegy by Lisa Gerrard and Patrick Cassidy starts playing (the music throughout the trailer).  We see a shot of Clark floating underwater among wreckage—likely from an accident that happened on his fishing boat, which we saw him working on in the teaser trailer.  We hear a boy’s voiceover (VO), a young Clark say, “The world’s too big, Mom.”


0:18-0:22 – Close up shot of Clark’s face underwater.  We hear a VO of his mother (Diane Lane) say, “Then make it small.”


0:23-0:25 – Flashback scene showing a cup full of pencils and someone writing (in cursive!).


0:26-0:28 – Boy running down the hallway.  Clark’s mom says, “Focus on my voice.”


0:29-0:35 – We see young Clark crouched in a closet and his mom sitting outside of it. “Pretend it’s an island, out in the ocean.  Can you see it?”


0:36-0:38 – We fade out of young Clark’s face and back to Clark’s face underwater.  VO from young Clark says, “I see it.”  Older Clark opens his eyes underwater.


0:39-0:40 – Water gently lapping against a stone.


0:41-0:43 – We see a school bus falling and crashing into the water.  A woman’s VO: “My son was in the bus.”


0:44-0:46 – Water filling the bus as kids scream, trying to escape.


0:47-0:50 – The bus has been lifted out of the water.  A girl looks to the back of the bus and sees a teenage Clark outside the bus, having presumably lifted it out of the water.  The woman’s VO continues: “He saw what Clark did.”


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0:51-0:56 – A teenage Clark sits in the back of an old, blue pickup truck on the Kent Farm with the sun setting in the distance.  His father, Jonathan (played by Kevin Costner) says, “You have to keep this side of yourself a secret.”  Teenage Clark turns to him and says, “What was I supposed to do, just let them die?”


0:57-1:00 – Fast forward several years to older Clark, beard and all, watching a small school bus drive by.


1:01-1:02 – Back to the farm scene, and Jonathan Kent responding, “Maybe.”


1:03-1:05 – NEXT SUMMER


1:06-1:07 – Clark wandering around what is likely the Fortress of Solitude.


1:08-1:10 – Clark says, “I have so many questions.”  He is likely saying this to some holographic image of his father, Jor-El, played by Russell Crowe.  Remember that in the original Superman movie with Christopher Reeves, Clark visited the Fortress of Solitude and spoke with his father, played by the late, great Marlon Brando.


1:11-1:12 – Clark: “Where do I come from?”  He is holding some small object with the ‘S’ insignia on it.


1:13-1:18 – We see Clark, now Superman, wearing the infamous red boots and red cape walking out in the snow, his cape flapping in the wind.


1:19-1:25 – Wide-angle shot of Clark from a distance in his Superman suit, the Arctic sun in the background.  VO from Jonathan Kent: “You just have to decide what kind of man you want to grow up to be, Clark.”


1:26-1:30 – Jonathan Kent VO: “Whoever that man is…”  We see a shot of Superman’s back as he looks out over the Arctic landscape.  We fade in on his face as he looks up at the sun and closes his eyes.


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1:31-1:38 – Jonathan Kent VO: “Is going to change the world.”  We see Superman’s right fist on the ground as he rests on one knee.  The ground starts shaking, stones bouncing around him, pressure building.  (Reader jasvll rightfully pointed out that the new musical cue that begins here is Storm from Elizabeth: The Golden Age).


1:39-1:42 – Superman rockets off the ground and into the sky.


1:43-1:44 – We see Superman flying in space, the earth above him.


1:45-1:46 – FROM ZACK SNYDER/DIRECTOR OF WATCHMEN & 300


1:47 – Giant explosion, looks like Metropolis exploding.  If you look real close you can see someone in the debris.


1:48 – Fade in on Jor-El and his wife/Superman’s mom Lara Lor-Van (played by Ayelet Zurer).  Jor-El looks at her as she gently kisses the head of their infant son.


1:49 – Shot of a bearded Clark emerging from a fire, shirtless and unscathed.  (My wife always thought Henry Cavill was hot so this confirms it).  This scene likely ties in with these set photos.


1:50 – An explosion in space among what appears to be a ship.  This may be the scene where the ship carrying infant Clark is trying to escape from Krypton before it is destroyed.


1:51 – An outside shot of the Kent Farm with a spaceship—likely Clark’s—hovering behind a tree.


1:52 – Shot of Michael Shannon as General Zod.


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1:53 – Superman falling to his knees.  (Kneel before Zod, anyone?)


1:54 – Two people running as a building collapses behind them.  The man on the left looks to be Laurence Fishburne, who will be playing Perry White in the film.  White, of course, is the Editor-in-Chief of the Daily Planet newspaper where Clark works as a journalist.


1:55 – A woman watching an explosion in front of them.  Perhaps Superman’s mom.  This may be another scene showing Krypton’s imminent destruction.


1:56-1:57 – AND PRODUCER CHRISTOPHER NOLAN/DIRECTOR OF THE DARK KNIGHT TRILOGY


1:58 – Shot of a lake at either dawn or dusk.  A man in a boat casts a fishing net as a bright object falls from the sky.  I’m going to guess this is actually the scene where Zod comes to Earth.  Remember, Superman lands in Kansas as a baby, so the chances of there being mountains and a lake there are next to none.


1:59 – Quick shot of Superman being marched down a hallway in handcuffs accompanied by soldiers.  This is the shot from the latest Man of Steel movie poster.  We fade in on a bearded, shirtless Clark screaming as he attempts to lift something while a fire roars behind him.  Again, this likely takes place on the fishing boat.


2:00 – Superman flies down the side of a building and collides with someone, likely Zod or one of his soldiers.


2:01 – A giant spaceship emerges from an explosion.  Based on what the spaceship looked like in the Kent Farm scene (at the 1:51 point of the trailer) it is likely another shot of Clark’s ship leaving Krypton.


2:02 – Christopher Meloni’s character, Colonel Hardy, and another man with glasses look up at something in the sky.  It is clearly a bright object since Meloni’s character looks to be shielding his eyes.


2:03-2:04 – Jonathan Kent kisses the head of a young Clark.  We then fade in on an older Clark holding a young girl as a tornado rages in the background—we are in Kansas after all.


2:05-2:09 – Clark VO starts: “My father believed, that if the world found out who I really was, they’d reject me.”  We see a series of shots, beginning with a picture in an album of a young Clark at a science fair with Jonathan Kent.  We see Superman standing in the doorway of the Kent Farm hugging his mother.  We then cut to a quick shot of (presumably) Superman flying alongside a beam of light towards a bright portal.  This could very well be a scene involving the Phantom Zone.  We get a close up shot of Superman’s suit, and then cut to Superman crashing through a door and into a giant safe.


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2:10-2:14 – Clark’s VO continues: “He was convinced that the world wasn’t ready.”  We see a wide-angle shot of soldiers in hummers on a runway in what looks to be the desert.  All eyes—and guns—are aimed towards the end of the runway where Superman is standing with Lois Lane (played by Amy Adams).  We cut to Superman looking at Lois and then the two grabbing hands.


2:15-2:18 – Soldiers aim their guns among a heap of rubble as Superman’s boots step into view.  Clark’s VO concludes: “What do you think?”


2:19-2:22 – MAN OF STEEL


2:23-2:25 – SUPERMAN’S LOGO


2:26 -2:27 – 2013


2:28-2:33 – Credits

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post #427 of 1076
I think Daredevil started the "darker" comic movies.

His tragedy, ripping his tooth out, I'm not the bad guy kid, hyperbolic chamber, the moodiness of it. To me that started the tone, BB just enhanced it, amplified it.
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post #428 of 1076
I think Blade started it.

Batman made it work with PG-13, though.
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post #429 of 1076
A little off topic but, I disagree with certain superhero movies being labeled "dark" in the first place. If the source material is supposed to be dark/tragic to begin with (Batman/Blade/The Crow/Watchmen/Sin City) it just makes next to no sense to then label their film adaptation to be "dark" all of a sudden. I mean, when you label the Adam West Batman series "camp", then that's a better assumption since it went from "dark" to "camp" when it was adapted to another medium.
post #430 of 1076
This movie needs to have really good fight scenes that show off all of his powers. If it translates well on-screen i'll be happy.
post #431 of 1076
I don't see how Man of Steel is dark? The trailer seems normal to me, it's looking good so far.
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I don't see how Man of Steel is dark? The trailer seems normal to me, it's looking good so far.

I think most people tag it as "dark" because of the Nolan connection and prolly the overall vibe to it when you compare it to the Christopher Reeves films.
post #433 of 1076
"Darker" moreso than "Dark".

Supes was usually light and fluffy, feel good do gooder type stuff.

This appears to be a bit grittier, hence "darker" if that makes sense.
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post #434 of 1076
Nolan attended the Les Mis premiere the other night & was asked if Levitt or any other actor as Batman would make a cameo in Man Of Steel. Instead of just saying no, he said with a smile that he could not talk about that...Oh the intrigue...


http://movieline.com/2012/12/12/christopher-nolan-batman-man-of-steel-hugh-jackman/


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But I'll get to that in a moment. Among the filmmakers who turned up to praise the Les Misérables star at the Museum of the Moving Image's salute to Jackman in lower Manhattan on Tuesday night was The Dark Knight Rises director Christopher Nolan who grew an enormous Cheshire-Cat grin when I asked him if the Superman reboot he is producing, Man of Steel, would see a cameo by Joseph Gordon-Levitt, or any actor, as Batman, and if he had any objections to a cameo as a continuity move to tie the Supes movie to the 2015 Justice League movie.
"I can't talk about that. You know that," Nolan said cheerily. I didn't know that, actually, but now that I do, I feel compelled to point out that, despite the frustratingly inconclusive nature of his answer, it's not a 'No.' Yes, JG-L's camp shot down the speculation as "entirely false" back in November, but if the idea had been ruled out, wouldn't Nolan be saying something along those lines, too, so that the fan boys could move on? You know how angry they can get when their casting hopes and dreams are suddenly deflated after being allowed to build for months.
The impish smile on Nolan's face as he issued that no comment also heightened my optimism, especially in the wake of the powerful Man of Steel trailer that's now burning up the Internet. Zack Snyder's take on Superman clearly aspires to have the kind of psychological heft and dark undertones that made The Dark Knight trilogy so satisfying. If the movie attains or even approaches those standards, a JG-L Batman cameo would not dishonor Nolan's work and it would set the bar high for Justice League . No pressure, Warner Bros.
post #435 of 1076
Just a thought. Batman rarely appears as Bruce Wayne in JL right? So DC is kind of safe to cast JGL in the film as Batman but not name him Robin Blake/Bruce Wayne, right? Thoughts?
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Just a thought. But Batman rarely appears as Bruce Wayne in JL right? So DC is kind of safe to cast JGL in the film as Batman but not name him Robin Blake/Bruce Wayne, right? Thoughts?

Nah, even if he only removes his cowl for a few minutes in the film, Batman still has to be Bruce Wayne in the film, he just got to be. No matter how you look at it Bruce is unique in his thinking and no one else really compares. Dude has a plan/way to eliminate each member of the JLA if ever they turn or go rogue and that is all Bruce right there, it can't be Blake/Robin.

Blake as the next Batman really needs to be left in TDKR and even if he is cast as Batman in the JLA, he still has to play Bruce but obviously it'll be as if Nolans Batman never existed (which was the plan anyways or at least should be). But the problem is people will easily get confused because JGL is now Blake/Batman II/Robin and that is imprinted on the publics mind and it'll be difficult to say he is playing Bruce in JLA, completely separate and new from his character in TDKR.


I think they are simply wasting money and making it more difficult. I say throw a bunch of money at Bale and beg him to play Bats since that is what everyone wants anyways, even if it is an alternate dimension that has no relation to Nolans Batman at least we get the quintessential Bruce Wayne.
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Just a thought. But Batman rarely appears as Bruce Wayne in JL right? So DC is kind of safe to cast JGL in the film as Batman but not name him Robin Blake/Bruce Wayne, right? Thoughts?

Nah, even if he only removes his cowl for a few minutes in the film, Batman still has to be Bruce Wayne in the film, he just got to be. No matter how you look at it Bruce is unique in his thinking and no one else really compares. Dude has a plan/way to eliminate each member of the JLA if ever they turn or go rogue and that is all Bruce right there, it can't be Blake/Robin.

Blake as the next Batman really needs to be left in TDKR and even if he is cast as Batman in the JLA, he still has to play Bruce but obviously it'll be as if Nolans Batman never existed (which was the plan anyways or at least should be). But the problem is people will easily get confused because JGL is now Blake/Batman II/Robin and that is imprinted on the publics mind and it'll be difficult to say he is playing Bruce in JLA, completely separate and new from his character in TDKR.


I think they are simply wasting money and making it more difficult. I say throw a bunch of money at Bale and beg him to play Bats since that is what everyone wants anyways, even if it is an alternate dimension that has no relation to Nolans Batman at least we get the quintessential Bruce Wayne.

My thoughts exactly. It's the confusion about which character JGL plays that's bugging me. But hopefully, Nolan doesn't go that route. Dude's smart enough to not mess up like that.

And I also agree that the one underneath should be Bruce Wayne. Those plans he had on the Tower of Babel arc were just straight filthy!
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Just a thought. But Batman rarely appears as Bruce Wayne in JL right? So DC is kind of safe to cast JGL in the film as Batman but not name him Robin Blake/Bruce Wayne, right? Thoughts?

Nah, even if he only removes his cowl for a few minutes in the film, Batman still has to be Bruce Wayne in the film, he just got to be. No matter how you look at it Bruce is unique in his thinking and no one else really compares. Dude has a plan/way to eliminate each member of the JLA if ever they turn or go rogue and that is all Bruce right there, it can't be Blake/Robin.

Blake as the next Batman really needs to be left in TDKR and even if he is cast as Batman in the JLA, he still has to play Bruce but obviously it'll be as if Nolans Batman never existed (which was the plan anyways or at least should be). But the problem is people will easily get confused because JGL is now Blake/Batman II/Robin and that is imprinted on the publics mind and it'll be difficult to say he is playing Bruce in JLA, completely separate and new from his character in TDKR.


I think they are simply wasting money and making it more difficult. I say throw a bunch of money at Bale and beg him to play Bats since that is what everyone wants anyways, even if it is an alternate dimension that has no relation to Nolans Batman at least we get the quintessential Bruce Wayne.

I completely agree.

Bruce Wayne is synonymous with Batman now and forever but what if WB's plan is to have JGL act as John Blake taking up the batman mantle but because he is not trained or as intelligent as Bruce he fails in some way; leaving the door open for Bruce to return as Batman? (Lol very ironic in a way)

If they play that angle I believe it can work. It would tie in Nolan's series with a new DC universe and not completely disregard it.
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I don't see how Man of Steel is dark? The trailer seems normal to me, it's looking good so far.

I think when people say dark, they mean a more realistic way the movie is shot. The colors etc. the trailer seemed very gray, and had a grit to it. People dont mean itll have decapitations and crazy gore

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Nah, even if he only removes his cowl for a few minutes in the film, Batman still has to be Bruce Wayne in the film, he just got to be. No matter how you look at it Bruce is unique in his thinking and no one else really compares. Dude has a plan/way to eliminate each member of the JLA if ever they turn or go rogue and that is all Bruce right there, it can't be Blake/Robin.
Blake as the next Batman really needs to be left in TDKR and even if he is cast as Batman in the JLA, he still has to play Bruce but obviously it'll be as if Nolans Batman never existed (which was the plan anyways or at least should be). But the problem is people will easily get confused because JGL is now Blake/Batman II/Robin and that is imprinted on the publics mind and it'll be difficult to say he is playing Bruce in JLA, completely separate and new from his character in TDKR.
I think they are simply wasting money and making it more difficult. I say throw a bunch of money at Bale and beg him to play Bats since that is what everyone wants anyways, even if it is an alternate dimension that has no relation to Nolans Batman at least we get the quintessential Bruce Wayne.

I dont mind having bale back, but I wasnt the biggest fan of Nolans batman. I guess Im stuck on the animated series and dc animation version and how they portray him.
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I completely agree.

Bruce Wayne is synonymous with Batman now and forever but what if WB's plan is to have JGL act as John Blake taking up the batman mantle but because he is not trained or as intelligent as Bruce he fails in some way; leaving the door open for Bruce to return as Batman? (Lol very ironic in a way)

If they play that angle I believe it can work. It would tie in Nolan's series with a new DC universe and not completely disregard it.


That is exactly why a Blake as Batman wouldn't work, dude isn't trained and disciplined by Ras and not just physically but also mentally. Bruce learned strategy and stealth from being trained by the League of Shadows, who the hell trained Blake, GCPD? Who were all stupid enough to get trapped in the tunnels?


But the thing is, Nolan isn't doing anymore Batmans and Bale said he won't return w/o Nolan so a loosely based story on Azrael-esque storyline where Blake is incapable of being a true Batman so Bruce/Bale returns won't happen.
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Time to have JL thread. RFX, your thoughts?
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I completely agree.

Bruce Wayne is synonymous with Batman now and forever but what if WB's plan is to have JGL act as John Blake taking up the batman mantle but because he is not trained or as intelligent as Bruce he fails in some way; leaving the door open for Bruce to return as Batman? (Lol very ironic in a way)

If they play that angle I believe it can work. It would tie in Nolan's series with a new DC universe and not completely disregard it.


That is exactly why a Blake as Batman wouldn't work, dude isn't trained and disciplined by Ras and not just physically but also mentally. Bruce learned strategy and stealth from being trained by the League of Shadows, who the hell trained Blake, GCPD? Who were all stupid enough to get trapped in the tunnels?


But the thing is, Nolan isn't doing anymore Batmans and Bale said he won't return w/o Nolan so a loosely based story on Azrael-esque storyline where Blake is incapable of being a true Batman so Bruce/Bale returns won't happen.
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I completely agree.

Bruce Wayne is synonymous with Batman now and forever but what if WB's plan is to have JGL act as John Blake taking up the batman mantle but because he is not trained or as intelligent as Bruce he fails in some way; leaving the door open for Bruce to return as Batman? (Lol very ironic in a way)

If they play that angle I believe it can work. It would tie in Nolan's series with a new DC universe and not completely disregard it.


That is exactly why a Blake as Batman wouldn't work, dude isn't trained and disciplined by Ras and not just physically but also mentally. Bruce learned strategy and stealth from being trained by the League of Shadows, who the hell trained Blake, GCPD? Who were all stupid enough to get trapped in the tunnels?


But the thing is, Nolan isn't doing anymore Batmans and Bale said he won't return w/o Nolan so a loosely based story on Azrael-esque storyline where Blake is incapable of being a true Batman so Bruce/Bale returns won't happen.
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I completely agree.

Bruce Wayne is synonymous with Batman now and forever but what if WB's plan is to have JGL act as John Blake taking up the batman mantle but because he is not trained or as intelligent as Bruce he fails in some way; leaving the door open for Bruce to return as Batman? (Lol very ironic in a way)

If they play that angle I believe it can work. It would tie in Nolan's series with a new DC universe and not completely disregard it.


That is exactly why a Blake as Batman wouldn't work, dude isn't trained and disciplined by Ras and not just physically but also mentally. Bruce learned strategy and stealth from being trained by the League of Shadows, who the hell trained Blake, GCPD? Who were all stupid enough to get trapped in the tunnels?


But the thing is, Nolan isn't doing anymore Batmans and Bale said he won't return w/o Nolan so a loosely based story on Azrael-esque storyline where Blake is incapable of being a true Batman so Bruce/Bale returns won't happen.

I hope Nolan and Bale have a change of heart the next two years lol.
post #443 of 1076
And that's why I thought it was stupid that JGL would still be Batman. He's not Batman, he's Nightwing. If you think the audience is too dumb to understand that Bruce Wayne should be Batman, or that they'd let it slide if John Blake became Bruce overnight, then I don't know what to say to you.

That's like making a new Pirates of the Caribbean and casting Orlando Bloom as Jack Sparrow.

And that just scratches at the problem of resolving the new JL world with Nolan's Gotham. TDKR becomes trivial and stupider in a world where Superman exists.


....of course this could be a genius bait and switch, where JGL pretends for a while, then Bale shows up in the JL movie...eek.gif...but this is the studio that brought us Green Lantern, so I doubt it. laugh.gif
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post #444 of 1076
At first I was hoping they would go the "iron man" route with it and keep it light and entertaining but the teaser and trailer look great.
post #445 of 1076
I don't really wanna derail the thread with Batman talk but since we're on the subject, I don't think Nolan would ever do a storyline where JGL fails as the new Batman, in his world JGL would absolutely succeed. It all goes back to the philosophy that he set up early on in the series. Think back to when Ra's Al Ghul was training Bruce. They go back and forth on Bruce's dad not being able to act the night his parents died, Bruce says "I've had training" and Ra's says back to him " Training is nothing, the will is everything. The will to act."
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I don't really wanna derail the thread with Batman talk but since we're on the subject, I don't think Nolan would ever do a storyline where JGL fails as the new Batman, in his world JGL would absolutely succeed. It all goes back to the philosophy that he set up early on in the series. Think back to when Ra's Al Ghul was training Bruce. They go back and forth on Bruce's dad not being able to act the night his parents died, Bruce says "I've had training" and Ra's says back to him " Training is nothing, the will is everything. The will to act."

Well Nolan won't do anymore Batman movies and I think he is just a producer or co-producer in the JLA film. He might approve or dis-approve on the script but for the most part, he won't have much to do with the film.


Even the "will to act" is key, I think that is more metaphor than anything else on who Batman is. "Will" will push Bats to do what he needed to beat the bad guy but all of it is still not possible w/o the LoS' training.
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Time to have JL thread. RFX, your thoughts?


No need for a JL thread yet I think, it'll just get buried or trolled by posts like Avengers > JLA or Marvel is better than DC because there isn't much details yet on the film other than Darkseid being confirmed as the villain and which JLA comic book arc the film will be based on.


I'm a huge Superman fanboy as most know so I am very excited to see Darkseid, it's good that they are going full force with the first movie since they are competing with the Avengers, I just really how it is done well and sadly, I don't think there are many directors out there that can pull it off like Whedon did to the Avengers and it'll be extra difficult because there won't be an origins story for each vital members. I still think they should have started with a Batman/Superman movie first and then move on to a JLA film. That should also give more time to maybe make origins films for other heroes like Flash or WW, although I believe WB is still shopping around a new WW TV show.
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Time to have JL thread. RFX, your thoughts?


No need for a JL thread yet I think, it'll just get buried or trolled by posts like Avengers > JLA or Marvel is better than DC because there isn't much details yet on the film other than Darkseid being confirmed as the villain and which JLA comic book arc the film will be based on.

You're prolly right.

Saw this one from the NEWS ON FUTURE COMIC/MONSTER/E.T'S/NATURAL PHENOMENON/PARANORMAL BASED FILMS thread. Possible JL plot?
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I was going to ask just that, if JGL could simply just be Bruce Wayne in the JL, and forget all about that John Blake stuff. But that would be tricky.

But you know, what's his name was Torch in Fantastic Four, and now he's Captain America, I mean, it's not impossible.

By the time it comes out, mid 2015, TDKR was 2012, maybe some of the people forget John Blake, and just go in open minded that he's Bruce Wayne now. Not ideal, but WB has already put themselves behind the 8 ball to begin with. They should have locked up Nolan/Bale years ago for a project like this.
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I don't really wanna derail the thread with Batman talk but since we're on the subject, I don't think Nolan would ever do a storyline where JGL fails as the new Batman, in his world JGL would absolutely succeed. It all goes back to the philosophy that he set up early on in the series. Think back to when Ra's Al Ghul was training Bruce. They go back and forth on Bruce's dad not being able to act the night his parents died, Bruce says "I've had training" and Ra's says back to him " Training is nothing, the will is everything. The will to act."

Well Nolan won't do anymore Batman movies and I think he is just a producer or co-producer in the JLA film. He might approve or dis-approve on the script but for the most part, he won't have much to do with the film.


Even the "will to act" is key, I think that is more metaphor than anything else on who Batman is. "Will" will push Bats to do what he needed to beat the bad guy but all of it is still not possible w/o the LoS' training.

They de-constructed the theme of fear in TDKR (Bruce needing fear to rise from the pit) why couldn't Nolan do something similar?
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