IM LIKE PELE's list of most overrated players in the NFL (coming up w/ underrated)

Originally Posted by Fede DPT

Originally Posted by IM LIKE PELE

okay put up or shut up...



dont talk trash til i see your list man...





this is starting to piss me off...guys saying welker is the most overrated WR in the league?



give me your whole list, then start talking ****

Son, are you MAD? I think this young man is MAD, can anyone else concur?

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I can't wait to see this guy's "underrated" list....prolly look like:



Ladanian Tomlinson - quietly putting up HUGE #'s in SD



Tom Brady - he's on the come up



Randy Moss - don't tell nobody



Jason Taylor - more people would know his name if he didn't play for Miami
 
I can't wait to see this guy's "underrated" list....prolly look like:



Ladanian Tomlinson - quietly putting up HUGE #'s in SD



Tom Brady - he's on the come up



Randy Moss - don't tell nobody



Jason Taylor - more people would know his name if he didn't play for Miami

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it's hard to call shaun ellis "overrated" when he was never really touted as a top player or underrated player in the first place. take into account that dude plays end in a 3-4 scheme. he's not going to put up a lot of sacks from that position yet he was able to produce 5 as well as being good at stopping the run [from what little i've seen, someone please correct me if i'm wrong].

as for calling chad johnson and asante samuel overrated, everyone that disagrees with you has already said what needs to be said.

i don't get why you would get all heated and mad over people disagreeing with you. you brought it upon yourself by posting this list up. this isn't a thread for us to post up our own lists. this thread is "IM LIKE PELE's list of most overrated players in the NFL", not "POST YOUR MOST OVERRATED PLAYERS IN THE NFL LIST". of course people were going to check this thread out and agree or disagree with your picks. what did you expect? everyone to praise your list and agree with you? you know damn well that's not gonna happen, especially in S&T.
this guy is COMPLETELY on point
 
Originally Posted by armanzaballa

underrated: SEAN HILL

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i agree with most of your list. Wes Welker is NOT underrated. And he ain't overrated either. But he doesn't break tackles from LB's. he is just extremely shifty (i.e. he will turn quick after he catches a pass off of a button hook) the man is good and he IS THE SECOND BEST WR ON THE TEAM. how are any of you guys going to argue that.

I like his style of play also, you jsut gotta learn that the man is hated on niketalk just like D wade is.
oh and soon you will learn niketalk d-rides fred taylor and colston.

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. The Colston thing? A joke, a mere mockery of J Rain and hislove of Moss. Freddie T? Gunna's fault.

Take Wes Welker out of the slot against a real starting cornerback and he won't do much of anything (that was proven a couple of times this season).
 
i am like pele is pure great.... this whole list is grade A....Jake Delhomme is the only one i question.....
 
just to let yall know, im not mad...not one bit

but from the beginning of my post, i said that I wanted to see your list before you talked ****...because i knew criticism would come (and i don't mindthat), because people disagree over all topics...but until i see your list, then you can't prove me wrong...



i want a complete list of the same positions i had out...cuz i mean you can't call an OL overrated really but then again, you super experts may payattention to some O-linemen play...



Yes CJ is top 3 in receiving yards...but look at the entire bengals offense...they average 35 pass attempts per game and are 7th in the league in receivingyards...you can expect him to be up there in yards...

I say he is overrated because I know people that say he is a top 2 WR in the game and nearly tied with Moss. people say he is better than Steve Smith andTerrel Owens...which is not true..people say he would be as effective as Moss if he were on the Pats...which is NOT TRUE...not even TO could replace Moss onthe Pats O...(that would take away the elite deep threat)...



I bet you anything if Chad Johnson was some white dude who didn't wear a grill, and didn't talk so much trash, and didn't eat mcdonalds every dayand brag about it, then people wouldn't think he was as good as he is (JUST THE WAY YOU GUYS TREAT WELKER)
 
I bet you anything if Chad Johnson was some white dude who didn't wear a grill, and didn't talk so much trash, and didn't eat mcdonalds every day and brag about it, then people wouldn't think he was as good as he is (JUST THE WAY YOU GUYS TREAT WELKER)
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Originally Posted by BullsRepeat3Peat

I bet you anything if Chad Johnson was some white dude who didn't wear a grill, and didn't talk so much trash, and didn't eat mcdonalds every day and brag about it, then people wouldn't think he was as good as he is (JUST THE WAY YOU GUYS TREAT WELKER)
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You my friend, are NOTHING I repeat NOTHING like Pele. I don't care if it's a reference to Family Guy, you are more like the opposite of Pele. Peledid not care about race, I would continue but
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Welker is NOT a white Chad Johnson, not at all.
 
I say he is overrated because I know people that say he is a top 2 WR in the game and nearly tied with Moss. people say he is better than Steve Smith and Terrel Owens...which is not true..people say he would be as effective as Moss if he were on the Pats...which is NOT TRUE...not even TO could replace Moss on the Pats O...(that would take away the elite deep threat)...



I bet you anything if Chad Johnson was some white dude who didn't wear a grill, and didn't talk so much trash, and didn't eat mcdonalds every day and brag about it, then people wouldn't think he was as good as he is (JUST THE WAY YOU GUYS TREAT WELKER)
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No one cares that Wes Welker is a 5'7 white dude that doesn't wear a grill. If Wes Welker did everything Chad Johnson did, he would still be just asoverrated. Look at his stats, he did nothing before he came to New England. Like it has been pointed out by everyone who knows anything on this board, he is aSLOT WR. Which means he is being defended by a nickel or dime DB. Welker benefits from playing with Randy Moss. There is no way in hell that Welker would doanything against a premier DB, like Champ or Asante. No is hating on the guy but someone people on this board just dont understand what we mean we talk abouthim. Wes Welker is a good SLOT WR, nothing more.
 
Here's one "overrated" receiver....Wes Welker.
Dude got 1 vote for Offensive Player of the Year....are you serious? He's like the 3rd best receiver on his team.

I agree, if Moss wasn't on there and Stallworth was the #1 option, I don't think he'd have the year he did.
 
I'm skeptical of Chad having a legit 4.27....That's Randy Moss speed...



But, I would like to see a link...
 
Originally Posted by allen3xis

Hold on..

Chad runs (ran) a 4.27......?

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no, never in his time on earth has chad johnson ever ran a 4.27

if yall remember from the "Wes Welker speed" thread k8be wan tends to make up his 40 times. cuz according to him wwelker ran a 4.3 when he reallyran a 4.7
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btw if Chad Johnson ran anywhere near a 4.27 he wouldabeen top 5 pick in the draft not a 2nd rond pick please stop creating these*!+@!@*@# 40 times for people man. U should be ashamed of yourself

Lemme guess, U got his 40 time from Chad himself right ?
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Kiper: What are your accurate measureables and will you be working out at the combine meeting?
Johnson: I'm 6-2 and 198 pounds. My best 40 time is 4.27. I have a vertical jump of 40 inches. My maximum bench press is 315 pounds. And yes, I will be going through and participating in all the drills and testing at the combine workout. I invite the scrutiny. I want to show all of my skills to the NFL. I just wish it was a level playing field for all of the wide receivers. It would be great if all of the top wide-outs could be judged and evaluated at the same time, with everything being equal.


source: http://espn.go.com/melkiper/s/2001/0215/1085985.html

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just stop
 
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....Chad ain't touched no parts of no 4.27

That like what I was talking to RockDeep about....a Coaches 40 time and the actual forty time....Two different animals.... Thats how a 4.4 turns into a 4.67

Underrated players : Antoine Winfield CB for the Vikes.....
 
and no its not about legit checks, its knowing what you're talkin about. so u cal "
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" it off all you want but ur spewing erroneuosinformation.



but its whatever


yea, now its wateva but when u made ur post that was your basis of fact.
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that be like sayin Jerry Rice ran a 4.27 just cuz he got field speed. we all know Chad can run on the field but he's no burner and u'd be a fool tobelieve he is anywhere near a 4.3 forty guy.
 
bothering me? not at all, it made me laugh nearly as hard as when u said welker ran a 4.3 for NFL scouts.

like I said, you are a fool if you think Chad Johnson ran anywhere near a sub 4.3 forty. on top of that, I didnt really wanna hurt yoour feelings even morebut Chad aint have nowhere near a 40"" vert neither
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everyone knows Chad is a Great WR, except for this Pele character.
 
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