Shox discussion thread

Here are my credientials to back up every word I've written:

- Three years as a NIKE Concept Shop Specialist
- Three years as a Footwear Focus Group member
- NIKE Basketball/Sports Marketing Internship #1
- NIKE Basketball/Sports Marketing Internship #2
- NIKE Basketball Research & Development Coordinator
- Collected 150+ pairs of unreleased promo footwear
- Featured inteview subject in a sneaker video
Please%+$$+ and go edit your post because your grammar is not great either. You spelled credentials wrong . So again, don't make yourself lookfoolish.
You sounded like some old preacher. Your resume is garbage. I can top it with my eye close. You carefully word your resume to make it look professional but infact all those things you have listed are bottom of the chain jobs that anyone could get. I got a good career and i don't need your garbage CREDENTIALS .LOOK it's spell CREDENTIALS .
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^Dude how are you gonna know how to spell the word "credentials" but you can't spell the word "spelled?"
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Anyways this back and forth grammar war is really taking the attention away from what WAS a really good post. I'm obviously not a mod but I would like tosee it get back to what it was, so could you all just dead this and keep it moving?
 
I hate full length shox. I had killer blisters after playing a couple hours in my VCIII's.
 
^ your blisters had nothing to do with the shox.

some flat out stupid @#** gets said on this site sometimes.

Since when did you take it personal ? I've never said anything to you. You're the ignorant one ? Nobody said anything negatively about you, yet you got butt hurt and came back to call me an ignorant this and that ? I might not be a Nike tester but i know my stuff. You said you was a Nike footwear coordinator and you told them to do it? So you told them to land on someone else feet to see how ankle protection would be in your Nike shoes wear test ? Wow , you're so powerful. I'm sure you're Phil Knight's personal footwear tester, because your words seem so powerful and sophisticated. You must be a Nike shoes guru. Please, nobody care what you are. As a matter of fact, I think you're one of those kid who sign up on that Nike website to become a footwear tester, so don't come in here and preach


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Seriously i could have chosen any one of your post but since they're all horrendous i chose blindly. That is the worst collection of posts ive ever seenfrom a single member.

No one is going to believe that you 'know your stuff ' if you cant type on the same level as a 5th grader.

Also, Nike, retro the VC2, and the Shox TL! Oh, and keep releasing endless NZ's!
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Seriously, ACBboyz, it is time to call a loss a loss and throw in the towel. You tried to help someone with a question and spouted some garbage that had nomerit or proof. No one with serious hops wears Shox? *Ahem* ask Freddie Weis. Richard Jefferson wore them for years. Matrix. The list goes on. They don'treally "spring" your step or jumps, but you can feel a noticeable push on your foot to know there is some effect. In the running application, to me,they are just too soft and unstable. But in the basketball shoes, I feel they are set wide enough to be one of the most stable shoes out in most cases. They doprovide cushion on landings, more so than Zoom and more stable than Max in my opinion. And the argument that Zoom "makes you jump higher"? Come onnow, you may beleive this, but read what you wrote. No cushioning can make you jumop higher. If that was the case, LA gear would still be making Catapult andthat would be the best shoe out.
 
^ how is it a loss when this is an opinion thread. This is NT, there is no win or lose. I'm just saying Zoom is a better cushion than Shox. CWK came inhere and attacked me out of nowhere and that's why i fought back. I didn't say players with serious hops don't wear Shox. I said more NBA playersare starting to wear Zoom over Shox nowadays. Jason Richardson went from Reebok Atr to Shox to Zoom. I have yet to see one NBA player win the dunk contest inNike Shox with the exception of Andre Iggoudala but we all know he got robbed. Good cushioning does give you an extra few inches of hop and explosiveness. Howare you going to compare LA gear to Nike ? Please be more realistic.
 
Your resume is garbage. I can top it with my eye close.
Ok then, top it. Bring it out if you can back up your words. You can even leave your eyes opened so that you can minimize the already numerousspelling and grammar errors. I for one want to see how you can top someone with years of experience at Nike. If you can, then I'll call your informationvaluable. If you can't, then I'll keep thinking it is trash.

I have yet to see one NBA player win the dunk contest in Nike Shox with the exception of Andre Iggoudala but we all know he got robbed. Good cushioning does give you an extra few inches of hop and explosiveness
Nobody has won with your precious Zoom Air either, at least since the advent of Shox. So obviously it's NOT the cushion system, but the giftedathlete who can jump in any shoes. Do you think that, if Nate Robinson had been wearing some Shox instead of his Air Force Specialists, it would have taken himfewer than 17 attempts to make his last dunk? I'm pretty sure his lack of height contributed more to that than his shoes.

But really, I want to see your resume.
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I love these shox b/c they have a wide toe box to match my wide feet. they are my first and only pair of shox but I had to stop wearing them b/c they made myankle roll every time I wore them. Was this a bad design by nike. This is the only shoe that has this effect on my ankle.
 
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dude, its a low top shoe, aint no ankle support there.

but maybe u knew that......and perhaps the jokes on ol Guillermo.
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^^^^are you serious, I never realized this was a low top, that answers my question. b/c when i run in my Sheed AF1 Hi-tops, my ankles never roll.
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no but seriously, I was wondering if the 4 grey pods on the forefoot, were causing the shoe to roll, causing my ankle to roll.
 
The only Shox I like are the BB4s...the Bombers were some Poo Poo and hurt my feet.



I feel like Zoom gives me extra lift.. but I suppose its only my opinion... I am def. no expert.



You guys should tone it down a little. I understand everyone has a stance...and an opinion but we all like shoes, so lets embrace our commonalities.



Ok.. ok.. corny I know.. lol but come on guys..
 
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I love these shox b/c they have a wide toe box to match my wide feet. they are my first and only pair of shox but I had to stop wearing them b/c they made my ankle roll every time I wore them. Was this a bad design by nike. This is the only shoe that has this effect on my ankle.
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it might have had something to do with the fact that you were balling in running shoes.
 
i run in my running shoes. i never said i was using them for ball. sorry i didnt expain myself.

let me rephrase my question....

I am a runner. I usually run in Air Max 180+ because they have a nice wide toebox. I went to a nike outletand bought my first pair shox, b/c they were the only shox I've tried on with a wide toebox. When I started running in them, theforefoot area where my foot strikes the ground, feels like it is rolling over, causing my ankles to roll. I have never had this problem in Air Max's orpegasus. I was simply wondering is the pod design in the forefoot of the shoe was causing this problem.
 
so you felt they were unstable and causing you to roll your ankle on a regular footstrike?

i highly doubt it was because of faulty design on the part of the shoe itself, more likely is the fact that the other shoes were more suited to your personalrunning mechanics.
 
You guys should tone it down a little.
More like a lot. That stuff gets old really fast.

I've only played in one shox based shoe, the Shox Elevate. I actually really liked it, just as much as any other shoe with a more traditional cushioningsetup.

I'd like to try out some of the newer releases, the Optimal PE's look pretty sick, but I'm really keyed up on low tops and lightweight shoes. Shoxdon't necessarily feel too heavy, but I think I've only seen one low top shox bball shoe (VC Low).
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thats what i figured, maybe i am over pronating. those pods are soft and extremly flexible. which is pretty much the opposite of the new AM180. Thanks for yourinput.
 
i have had 3 pairs of basketball shox and i liked the support setup and stable feeling they give. the only problem is that i have a messed up fat pad in myright knee and everytime i play in them my knee hurts so bad that i cant play for like a week afterwards. i have this problem with the shox and air max basedshoes so i end up having to stick to air and zoom air for basketball kicks.



the shox bb4 are the only ones i can play in that dont bother my knee because they feel softer and more responsive than all the newer shox models. i also havethe shox certified and the shox elite 2 tb. maybe i just picked bad ones lol.
 
^seems like you might be exaggerating a bit.

the difference from a shox to a zoom shoe is the difference between you not being able to play for a week and you being perfectly fine afterwards?

maybe it's possible im not getting the whole story either, care to elaborate?
 
Max Air > Shox > Zoom



I do not like the feel of zoom air. It's too soft. I don't mind it in the forefoot but it sucks in the heel.
 
I'll enter into this, I've been a shox fanboy since the BB4 released.

First of all, in 2000/2001, for any of you that have any remote sense of how advertising works, you'll note that the original ads implied that shox workedlike springs and actually helped you jump higher. Signing Vince Carter as the frontrunner for the cushioning helped an insane amount. Nike never verballyadvertised that you'd get increased vertical leap from shox, obviously. But chances are every one of us were talking about these shoes when they first cameout. That was a great ad campaign. It's funny how it was mentioned that kids wanted to hear the "boing" noise like there was a speaker in theshoe or something. I got that all the time when I was in 8th grade with the BB4.

Anyway, the BB4 is my favorite performing shoe of all time, and cushioning aside, the comfort and fit was utterly perfect. The cushioning itself is quite stiffbut the balance you get from that wide heel plate always gave me a sense of security. The comments that turning your ankle is more severe in shox areunfounded. Yes, it is actually possible to have a MILD sprain in shox. Also, it is true that the heel height and ankle cut of the shoe play a miniscule part ininjuries compared to how the foot sits and fits the inside of the footbed on a shoe. Unless you are playing in high heel stillettos, the difference in heelthickness between the shox and air max sneakers is insignificant.

From a design standpoint, Shox haven't been the exclusive product they once were 7 years ago. You see it used on cheap team shoes, and it seems they'renot putting as much of an emphasis on it as they used to. The VC line got worse with each new model IMO. The BB4, VC1 and II were such great shoes. They wentsouth real quick. Spotlights were garbage. Bombers were bulky and heavy. So I wish they would put some of that elite feel back into the line.

Now I'll sit back and let the grammar police come for me, I might have misspelled a word somewhere in there.
 
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i don't wear shox alot, and ther'es one main reason: everytime i do, the columns get stepped on, doesn't matter if im playing basketball or justwalking. I'm not sure if I just walk funny or people just like stepping on me but the heel part always gets caught.



the encap would stop that from occuring.
 
how do impax compare to shox, do they still make impax? my fiance used to run in the Impax Lite, and she loved them
 
^^^ My wife ran in her Impax for 6 months and developed plantar fasciatis so bad she couldn't walk for two hours after her runs. I do not recommend themfor heavy running. Thes shox I have gave me the same problems, they felt way unstable especially on the lateral side if I mis-stepped while running. AndACBboyz, if you had stated your opinion, there would not be a problem. But you first stated that Zoom makes you jump higher and Shox would make you roll yourankle, both false. I understand you have had better results from Zoom, and I even have some all Zoom shoes I love, but my Shox also perform great, depending onthe shoe. I think it has more to do with playing style and how you jump (one foot, two feet, heavy player, etc.). Your right, there is no win or lose on a msgboard, only abunch of people who think they are all right.
 
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how do impax compare to shox, do they still make impax? my fiance used to run in the Impax Lite, and she loved them
I've seen a few people on here ask this question, so I will answer it.

Nike IMPAX, which stands for Integrated Mechanical Protection, has most of the same performancecharacteristics as Nike SHOX, but at a lower, more affordable price-point. The only real differences are that IMPAX uses a single top plate that descends downinto the polyurethane structure, as opposed to SHOX using two, top and bottom, moderator plates. If you look at a SHOX shoe there's a top and bottom platethat work together with the columns. IMPAX only uses a top plate so it acts similar to a diving board at a pool. The other difference is that IMPAX uses asingle polyurethane foam structure that we call a puck, as oppose to SHOX that uses individually tuned columns.

We had the "high school runner" in mind when creating this shoe. IMPAX was definitely not intended for the serious marathoner.

I hope my explaination is clear enough for you all to understand the concept of IMPAX?
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