Really? his head got awfully fat in the 90s. and I don't mean ego
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Originally Posted by 23ska909red02
Obviously, it would be hypocritical of me to say, "I'm not for sure, but I think ________ is using something," and then turn around and say, "I am POSITIVE that ________ is clean."
If I don't know one way, then I can't know the other way.
With that being said, here are the guys I admire for what I believe... BELIEVE... to be pure, clean careers*:
- Griffey
- Maddux
- Edmonds
- Frank Thomas (I was a huge fan of both Griffey and Thomas in the 90s, but only Griffey continued putting up numbers. Regardless, I still appreciate Thomas' career, and I do think he's clean.)
- A-Rod (I know HTTB and Fanatic15 just spit their drinks all over their monitors.This is NOT a list of guys I like; it's a list of guys I appreciate for what I believe to be clean, productive careers. A-Rod definitely has the numbers to be credited with being productive, and I personally do believe him to be clean. So there ya go. And the main reason I believe he's clean is that dude's numbers have been very consistent throughout his career.)
- Chipper
- Andruw (If this dude is on anything, it's Oreos.)
- Miggy Cabrera (If THIS dude is on anything, it's Oreo FILLING.)
- Mariano Rivera
- Jeter
- Chone
All I could think of off the top.
And I've said before that I put quite a bit of stock into anything Canseco says on this steroids issue, because he's batting 1.000 on the issue so far. I can't stand his arrogant, boneheaded self as a player or a person, but he's been spot on with this issue. So I have to give him that.
And one of the things he's said is that throughout the 90s and early 2000s, anywhere from 85-90% of MLBers were using. Since he said it, I have to believe that. Since that is a ridiculously high number, I definitely do NOT deny the possibility that some of the people on my list (or hell, EVERYONE on my list) used performance-enhancing drugs.
I'm just saying right now that I don't personally believe they've cheated. But if some speculation came up that throws any (or all) of those names in the guilty discussion, I wouldn't defend them.
*Yes, it's all baseball players. I don't follow football NEARLY enough to have a credible opinion of who's tainted/clean, and it's the same with hockey. And I don't think basketball is really caught up in this 'tainted vs. clean' debate, because 'roiding it up actually hurts a basketball player.
His Work ethic should be an inspiration
so should the PR job that Drew Rosenhaus did as well....but, I had this reactionwhen I saw him squatting literally 2-3 months after he tore his knee....
GUNNA:
If no one ever posted that picture again, it really wouldn't hurt my feelings.
Originally Posted by 23ska909red02
Obviously, it would be hypocritical of me to say, "I'm not for sure, but I think ________ is using something," and then turn around and say, "I am POSITIVE that ________ is clean."
If I don't know one way, then I can't know the other way.
With that being said, here are the guys I admire for what I believe... BELIEVE... to be pure, clean careers*:
- Griffey
- Maddux
- Edmonds
- Frank Thomas (I was a huge fan of both Griffey and Thomas in the 90s, but only Griffey continued putting up numbers. Regardless, I still appreciate Thomas' career, and I do think he's clean.)
- A-Rod (I know HTTB and Fanatic15 just spit their drinks all over their monitors.This is NOT a list of guys I like; it's a list of guys I appreciate for what I believe to be clean, productive careers. A-Rod definitely has the numbers to be credited with being productive, and I personally do believe him to be clean. So there ya go. And the main reason I believe he's clean is that dude's numbers have been very consistent throughout his career.)
- Chipper
- Andruw (If this dude is on anything, it's Oreos.)
- Miggy Cabrera (If THIS dude is on anything, it's Oreo FILLING.)
- Mariano Rivera
- Jeter
- Chone
All I could think of off the top.
And I've said before that I put quite a bit of stock into anything Canseco says on this steroids issue, because he's batting 1.000 on the issue so far. I can't stand his arrogant, boneheaded self as a player or a person, but he's been spot on with this issue. So I have to give him that.
And one of the things he's said is that throughout the 90s and early 2000s, anywhere from 85-90% of MLBers were using. Since he said it, I have to believe that. Since that is a ridiculously high number, I definitely do NOT deny the possibility that some of the people on my list (or hell, EVERYONE on my list) used performance-enhancing drugs.
I'm just saying right now that I don't personally believe they've cheated. But if some speculation came up that throws any (or all) of those names in the guilty discussion, I wouldn't defend them.
*Yes, it's all baseball players. I don't follow football NEARLY enough to have a credible opinion of who's tainted/clean, and it's the same with hockey. And I don't think basketball is really caught up in this 'tainted vs. clean' debate, because 'roiding it up actually hurts a basketball player.27th4theHood:
u think vlad is on something?Traitor!
