Gilbert Arenas wants a MAX Contract

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Gilbert ArenasThrows Down the Gauntlet to the Wizards

January 15, 2008 5:00 PM

On his NBA.com blog, on a day when Washington is enraptured with the other Wizards, injured star Gilbert Arenas writes:
I want to get a six-year deal. I want to be a max player. If my team decides that they don't want me here any more and they're going to go in a different direction, then I got to look elsewhere. For me to look elsewhere, I want to go find a championship team who's a championship contender. I'm going to have to take less money, but I'm willing to do that to win a ring. If my team doesn't want me, then I'm going to another team and I'm going to take less money to go there.


I'm sure he doesn't mean it this way, and maybe we'll have a clarification soon, but it seems like Arenas is saying that he'd play for passion, and to win in some other city. But if he has to play with these scrubs in D.C. ...

Meanwhile, "those scrubs" just beat the Celtics twice in a row.

And, looking at it from the other side, if you had a championship quality team, would you use your mid-level exception on a guy who dominates the ball? Having Gilbert Arenas on the floor re-orients the stars in your offense. (If you're Cleveland, I think the answer is yes. But San Antonio? Phoenix? Dallas? You can love Arenas from here to the moon, and still swallow hard before noodling with your roster in that particular way -- especially when you consider that he's little, not a great defender, and injury prone.)

More than anything, this might be an example of why players angling for maximum deals should probably have agents manage the process. It would be smart to avoid even the slightest chance of needlessly pissing off the only good team on the planet that can afford to give you big money.


AS a Wiz fan, I feel like Gilbert's stock has gone wayy down since he has been injured and this is just adding insult to injury.

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This guy has lost all leverage thanks to his injury, his never-ending 'Pay Me' stance, and of course....Caron Butler.

Why pay Gil a franchise-crippling MAX deal when you can continue to draft well, let the bigs develop and give Caron more touches.
 
I'm sure there are a lot of teams that want Gilbert on their team. Maybe not Detroit, Boston, Phoenix, or San Antonio, but a team like Dallas who probablyneeds a go-to-guy in the 4th when Dirk fades away, is probably an option. If it's possible, I would think Cuban will do anything to get him there.

And how about the Clippers? I know that they are at the bottom of the tough Western Conference, but just think about Gilbert and Elton on the same teamtogether. That would be a formidable tandem. Just two years go, they were a playoff team with upside... so it might be a possibility. I just know the contractsituation of Cassell and if they want to probably give Shaun Livingston a backup role instead of being "the guy" at point guard.

I've also heard reports of Gilbert wanting to go back to Golden State, but he wouldn't be the man here. Baron already established that he's the guyin Golden State. I mean, it would be great to have Gilbert play the shooting guard position, but it would relegate Monta Ellis to being a backup shootingguard, and that's one of the reasons why we chose to trade Jason Richardson, for Monta to become a starting shooting guard in the league. Also, if we getGilbert, he wouldn't really fill a need for us. We need a rebounding big man and a back up PG. Gilbert won't be a backup nor will Baron. It justdoesn't work out for us. I still miss Gilbert as a Warrior though. Someday we'll re-sign you.

And yes, this injury really hurt his chances at landing a max deal.
 
I love Gil's game, but he isn't getting a max contract coming off of two major knee surgeries. This guy stays talking out of both sides of his mouth.He was real quick to point the finger at Iggy and Deng for wanting more $, but stays having these dillusions of what he is actually worth at this point. Goingback to him talking out of both sides of his mouth, one blog entry he is talking about shutting it down for the year, and now it seems like he wants to comeback after the All-Star break (there was more mention of this in today's Washington Post). I don't know what to think about Gil and his stance on wherehe is physically and also for the future with this team. IMO, this is Caron's squad. Gil is a GREAT player, but I love how the team has gelled in hisabsence and really overachieved. I just don't think that Ernie Grunfeld is dumb enough to give Gil that max deal. He knows his worth, and if his trackrecord proves anything, EG is going to be shrewd in his negotiations. He will make an offer, but stand pat on not budging a dollar more than what he is worth.Pre-injury Gilbert Arenas is worth that max deal. Post-injury Gilbert Arenas....I'm just not too sure. Why cripple the franchise with a horrid contract fora guy who relies on his speed/lateral movements that is coming off basically season-ending knee surgery? I mean it was serious enough that he was about (maybehe did) to seek consultation from Dr. James Andrews. I think the Wizards should build their team around their franchise player....Caron Butler. That, and letthe young kids develop. Bring back Jamison for his leadership, and hope that he can ease his way on to the bench in a year or two in hopes of having AndrayBlatche get those starter minutes at the 4. There is no denying that this team is totally different with Gil out of the lineup. Eddie Jordan has lookedcompetent as a coach. Minutes are being given to guys like Dominic McGuire, Roger Mason, Pecherov, Young, etc.....defense has actually improved as close to 180degrees as you can get. I am all for Gil coming back, but at a lesser deal than a max contract. If he leaves then so be it. This team is in good shape, so itshouldn't be that much of a loss.
 
Why is this guy still talked about when he's not even playing? He gets more threads than some players who are healthy and playing and having great seasons.I can't remember when an injured player was this talked about. I bet that when Michael Jordan was injured in 85-86, they still didn't talk as muchabout him as this guy. If you didn't know any better, you'd think that the league was completely dead without him.

Elton Brand is a better player than him and I haven't seen a single thread about how he's doing.
 
we'll see how it goes for him if he comes back this season. then it's up to ernie grunfield to make the decision.
 
Didn't he just say the other day he'd go somewhere where he can win a 'chip for "a lot less?"
 
This the problem with Arenas. He doesn't have an agent. He has his own column per se. These are two swords he doesn't know how to swing. An agent canreally assist him in these matters. He is making a fool of himself, the Wizards, and the entire process of negotiations between players and owners.
 
Originally Posted by 703 Hwy

Do it Isiah

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im sure he's working it out now
 
Originally Posted by chikickz

This the problem with Arenas. He doesn't have an agent. He has his own column per se. These are two swords he doesn't know how to swing. An agent can really assist him in these matters. He is making a fool of himself, the Wizards, and the entire process of negotiations between players and owners.

i totally agree.
 
I've also heard reports of Gilbert wanting to go back to Golden State, but he wouldn't be the man here. Baron already established that he's the guy in Golden State. I mean, it would be great to have Gilbert play the shooting guard position, but it would relegate Monta Ellis to being a backup shooting guard, and that's one of the reasons why we chose to trade Jason Richardson, for Monta to become a starting shooting guard in the league. Also, if we get Gilbert, he wouldn't really fill a need for us. We need a rebounding big man and a back up PG. Gilbert won't be a backup nor will Baron. It just doesn't work out for us. I still miss Gilbert as a Warrior though. Someday we'll re-sign you.

Baron, Biedrins and Monta's contracts are up at the end of this season. If they were to persue Arenas they would have to lose one of those players andPietrus/Barnes. I could see them giving up Ellis and Pietrus/Barnes for Arenas, but thats it. I just don't think Baron and Arenas in the backcourt togetherwould work.

Baron/Arenas/Jackson/Harrington/Biedrins would be sick though.
 
Originally Posted by chikickz

This the problem with Arenas. He doesn't have an agent. He has his own column per se. These are two swords he doesn't know how to swing. An agent can really assist him in these matters. He is making a fool of himself, the Wizards, and the entire process of negotiations between players and owners.

Word? He's his own agent?
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That's kinda cool though.

It can't be that hard.

'Max deal. Make it happen.'
 
You know, when Gil WAS healthy, he wasn't even captain of the team!

Eddie Jordan said himself that Antwan Jamison was captain, and Antonio Daniels after that. He said Gil didn't have the maturity to be a leader and teamcaptain. This was coach's own words, and they stemmed from that whole "Ima score 50 on Portland" rant.

But here's why I suddenly stopped liking this guy.

He said the Wizards need to give him a max deal, coming off two knee surgeries. But you're willing to go to a CONTENDER for LESS? WTF, are the Wizardsthat bad? Oh wait a minute, they were a one seed before you got hurt, and just beat Boston twice? What championship contender? The Wiz are one of the topteams in the East!

And the worst part is, he's not a max player. He damn near had to start a petition to get in the All Star Game, is a point guard who doesn't pass,plays no defense, and is coming off knee surgery! And to top it off, he cheats at Halo lol.

The more I hear from this guy, the less I like him. He just doesn't get what it takes to be a leader, a winner, just ask Lebron who keeps kicking him outthe playoffs. And to think, he wanna talk about Kobe, talking about Kobe don't know when to shut his mouth.

I know I'm ranting, but
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this guy. That's why I don't like blogs, it gives a voice to people who have no business opening their mouths.
 
I'm not sure whether we should bring him back or not, Caron has been playing like a superstar and has emerged as a floor general.


I still hope we can keep him, his personality has really become apart of DC's culture
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