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ray rice will play three years max his knees are already killed
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LET me edit that...
The highest Ray Rice will go would be 4th back taken... there are other backs who could knock him down to 6th-8th taken in the draft.
The highest Ray Rice will go would be 4th back taken... there are other backs who could knock him down to 6th-8th taken in the draft.
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Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
Um........
Yall think that highly of dude? He's good, but he's got a TON of miles on his legs already, he's slow, he's small... I'm notconsidering dude before the late second or third round if I'm a GM. I like Jones, Johnson and Davis better than Rice.
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What about Ray Rice? He'll be the 4th back taken.
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Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk
Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
Um........
Yall think that highly of dude? He's good, but he's got a TON of miles on his legs already, he's slow, he's small... I'm not considering dude before the late second or third round if I'm a GM. I like Jones, Johnson and Davis better than Rice.
I should have said "the highest he'll go is 4th RB taken"... I like Jones and Davis more than dude, also.
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x 100000000, i really want the seahawks to drop this bum alexander and pick up washington native, JonathanStewart
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as a raiders fan I want Dorsey, we dont really need McFadden if Fargas wasnt a fluke and Rhodes stops gettin high but we cant really afford either of them, weneed to trade the pick and build up that o-line
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i'm not gonna lie though, whenever i see a black qb for the first time before he snaps the ball, i'm already assuming he got a little bit of wheels. iknow im' not the only one
i'm not gonna lie though, whenever i see a black qb for the first time before he snaps the ball, i'm already assuming he got a little bit of wheels. iknow im' not the only one
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probably not...
he wants to get payed Champ Bailey money and the Pats see him nowhere there...so he'll most likely be gone
I wouldn't mind having him around because he is a good CB for the most part but this year he's been getting beat by being too aggressive sometimes...hehas to play it smart a bit more, but he's definitely appreciated because he steps up in big games and will make the INT when we need one (hi Peyton
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He already is making Champ Bailey money.
I guess Im the only one who likes Ray Rice. He is sooo nasty its not even funny.
I guess Im the only one who likes Ray Rice. He is sooo nasty its not even funny.
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naw ray ray nice but they ran him to death he needs to go to a 2 back system
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At first I don't want D-Mac to be a Raider, but I guess that will be fine with me now even though I don't care about Oakland. I'd rather see himdon the Silver and Black of a Raider rather than the Silver and Navy of a Cowboy.
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I would never try to make the passing game a focal point with a team located outside in Buffalo.
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Asante trying to get that Nate Clements money....
There is no way Rice gets dratfted ahead of The Arkansas boys, Mendenhall or First Aid....
He should HOPE to be the 5th back taken...But then he will be battling w/ Slaton, J. Davis 'Maal Charles (who is gonna run a STOOOPID 40)
Ray Rice is he goods though...No doubt about it....
And that CB from Troy is the truth......
There is no way Rice gets dratfted ahead of The Arkansas boys, Mendenhall or First Aid....
He should HOPE to be the 5th back taken...But then he will be battling w/ Slaton, J. Davis 'Maal Charles (who is gonna run a STOOOPID 40)
Ray Rice is he goods though...No doubt about it....
And that CB from Troy is the truth......
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Yall must not realize Zant is the highest paid CB for this yr
Nate wont never see the back end of his contract. U
He got 35 mill tied up in the last 3 yrs of his deal
He will be seein that pink piece of paper in his locker before he sniffs that. at least he got a BigBusiness Bonus
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[table][tr][td]Position[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 2007 CB[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
[/td] [/tr][tr][td] [table][tr][td] Player[/td] [td]Team[/td] [td]Base Salary[/td] [td]Sign Bonus[/td] [td]Other Bonus[/td] [td]Total Salary[/td] [td]Cap Value[/td] [/tr][tr][td] Samuel, Asante[/td] [td]Patriots[/td] [td]$ 7,790,000[/td] [td]$ 0[/td] [td]$ 0[/td] [td]$ 7,790,000[/td] [td]$ 7,790,000[/td] [/tr][tr][td] McAlister, Chris[/td] [td]Ravens[/td] [td]$ 6,500,000[/td] [td]$ 3,957,494[/td] [td]$ 360[/td] [td]$ 6,500,360[/td] [td]$ 9,407,442[/td] [/tr][tr][td] Winfield, Antoine[/td] [td]Vikings[/td] [td]$ 4,900,000[/td] [td]$ 0[/td] [td]$ 100,000[/td] [td]$ 5,000,000[/td] [td]$ 5,000,000[/td] [/tr][tr][td] Springs, Shawn[/td] [td]********[/td] [td]$ 4,875,000[/td] [td]$ 3,100,000[/td] [td]$ 0[/td] [td]$ 4,875,000[/td] [td]$ 7,358,333[/td] [/tr][tr][td] Surtain, Patrick[/td] [td]Chiefs[/td] [td]$ 4,650,000[/td] [td]$ 0[/td] [td]$ 2,350,000[/td] [td]$ 7,000,000[/td] [td]$ 9,380,000[/td] [/tr][tr][td] Henry, Anthony[/td] [td]Cowboys[/td] [td]$ 3,600,000[/td] [td]$ 10,000,000[/td] [td]$ 4,800[/td] [td]$ 3,604,800[/td] [td]$ 5,604,800[/td] [/tr][/table][/td] [/tr][/table]
and I aint talked to Zant since Thnksgiving but Trav said Zant will take a fair deal from Pats as long as his Bonus is SUPER.
But keep in mind, Zant is a South Floridian
He got 35 mill tied up in the last 3 yrs of his deal
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and I aint talked to Zant since Thnksgiving but Trav said Zant will take a fair deal from Pats as long as his Bonus is SUPER.
But keep in mind, Zant is a South Floridian
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Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT
Yall must not realize Zant is the highest paid CB for this yrNate wont never see the back end of his contract. U
He got 35 mill tied up in the last 3 yrs of his dealHe will be seein that pink piece of paper in his locker before he sniffs that. at least he got a Big Business Bonus...
[table][tr][td]Position[/td] [/tr][tr][td]2007 CB[/td] [/tr][tr][td][/td] [/tr][tr][td] [table][tr][td]Player[/td] [td]Team[/td] [td]Base Salary[/td] [td]Sign Bonus[/td] [td]Other Bonus[/td] [td]Total Salary[/td] [td]Cap Value[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Samuel, Asante[/td] [td]Patriots[/td] [td]$ 7,790,000[/td] [td]$ 0[/td] [td]$ 0[/td] [td]$ 7,790,000[/td] [td]$ 7,790,000[/td] [/tr][tr][td]McAlister, Chris[/td] [td]Ravens[/td] [td]$ 6,500,000[/td] [td]$ 3,957,494[/td] [td]$ 360[/td] [td]$ 6,500,360[/td] [td]$ 9,407,442[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Winfield, Antoine[/td] [td]Vikings[/td] [td]$ 4,900,000[/td] [td]$ 0[/td] [td]$ 100,000[/td] [td]$ 5,000,000[/td] [td]$ 5,000,000[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Springs, Shawn[/td] [td]********[/td] [td]$ 4,875,000[/td] [td]$ 3,100,000[/td] [td]$ 0[/td] [td]$ 4,875,000[/td] [td]$ 7,358,333[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Surtain, Patrick[/td] [td]Chiefs[/td] [td]$ 4,650,000[/td] [td]$ 0[/td] [td]$ 2,350,000[/td] [td]$ 7,000,000[/td] [td]$ 9,380,000[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Henry, Anthony[/td] [td]Cowboys[/td] [td]$ 3,600,000[/td] [td]$ 10,000,000[/td] [td]$ 4,800[/td] [td]$ 3,604,800[/td] [td]$ 5,604,800[/td] [/tr][/table][/td] [/tr][/table]
and I aint talked to Zant since Thnksgiving but Trav said Zant will take a fair deal from Pats as long as his Bonus is SUPER.
But keep in mind, Zant is a South Floridian
When I compared him to Nate...I was talking overall contract number...Not a year by year basis...
"Zant" is in the perfect situation in NE....The scheme fits him to a T...
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yea, but those contract numbers are fake. when we heard Clements got a 80 mill deal, everyone repsonse was like "
O %@+! " but You gotta lookat the actual deal terms . U really think he gonna get 15 mil in 2014?
Not a chance.
these NFL contracts are barely worth the paper they're written on, since none are guaranteed.
here's Nate's contract,
Signed 8-year/ $80 million contract. $22.6 million in guarantees. 2014 void yr, basically a 7 yr / $64.02 million.
2008: $3,383,334 (+ $10 million roster bonus), 2009: $3,516,666, 2010: $6 million, 2011: $7.25 million, 2012: $9 million, 2013: $10.77 million, 2014: $15.48million, 2015: Free Agent
basically he on a 4 yr deal as far as guaranteed money goes (including his bonus) after that, its a safe bet, the team will cut him or force him into a smallerdeal
barring some catastrophic injury or career fall-off, the best thing a player can do is get the franchise tag.
these NFL contracts are barely worth the paper they're written on, since none are guaranteed.
here's Nate's contract,
Signed 8-year/ $80 million contract. $22.6 million in guarantees. 2014 void yr, basically a 7 yr / $64.02 million.
2008: $3,383,334 (+ $10 million roster bonus), 2009: $3,516,666, 2010: $6 million, 2011: $7.25 million, 2012: $9 million, 2013: $10.77 million, 2014: $15.48million, 2015: Free Agent
basically he on a 4 yr deal as far as guaranteed money goes (including his bonus) after that, its a safe bet, the team will cut him or force him into a smallerdeal
barring some catastrophic injury or career fall-off, the best thing a player can do is get the franchise tag.
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NFL is cutthroat son.....
[/quote]barring some catastrophic injury or career fall-off, the best thing a player can do is get the franchise tag. [/quote]
Yeah...If only you could get like a 5 year franchise deal...
At least Nate got that 22.5 guaranteed....
That contract is
I knew it was bad....But damn.....
[/quote]barring some catastrophic injury or career fall-off, the best thing a player can do is get the franchise tag. [/quote]
Yeah...If only you could get like a 5 year franchise deal...
At least Nate got that 22.5 guaranteed....
That contract is
I knew it was bad....But damn.....
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I think walter Jones and Orlando Pace were getting Franchised every yr for like 4 yrs straight.
Im not positive but I think Both of them would get tagged,then hold out like all of camp, just to come in at like the highest yearly rate possible ..
Ok I looked up Pace numbers :
every yr since 2000 Orlando Pace had a cap number of over 4.5 Mill
this dude is the re UP king.
Who is his Agent? *edit I shoulda known it was CarlPoston
(who btw was suspended by the NFLPA for$!#%*@$ up Lavar Arrington's contract)
Ok I looked up Pace numbers :
every yr since 2000 Orlando Pace had a cap number of over 4.5 Mill
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2012: $9 million, 2013: $10.77 million, 2014: $15.48 million
So, Nate essentially got a 5 year deal worth about 45 mil, assuming they even keep him through 2011... It's still a nice chunk ofchange, but it doesn't look as overwhelming as 8/80.
Where do you get these contract numbers from?
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Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT
I think walter Jones and Orlando Pace were getting Franchised every yr for like 4 yrs straight.Im not positive but I think Both of them would get tagged, then hold out like all of camp, just to come in at like the highest yearly rate possible ..
Ok I looked up Pace numbers
every yr since 2000 Orlando Pace had a cap number of over 4.5 Millthis dude is the re UP king.Who is his Agent?
Does he need one???
