What Sport has more athletically gifted players? NFL or NBA?

I'm going with the NFL.� This post had me reminiscing about Curry and Peppers on the basketball court.
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Originally Posted by K8be wan Kenobi

i think you are looking at it in the wrong way.

we're talking about guys who are just athletically gifted, guys who are freaks of nature that do things others could never do. hitting a hockey puck with a stick, or learning how to ride ice skates are skills. those are something that anyone can become good at with enough practice.

having a 40 inch vertical is athleticism. not everybody can have a 40-inch vert, no matter how hard they practice and for how long. there are some people that are naturally built for it, and some that just aren't.

hockey and baseball are skill-oriented sports, not athleticism oriented sports.
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see this is where I disagree. IMO not every has the ability to be a great stick handler in hockey, or a great shooter in basketball. Just like quicknessand hops, hand-eye coordination in something that some people have and some people don't. I know guys that are wicked fast, but they can't catch a ballto save their lives. Look at Steve Nash. He can't jump out of the gym, but he obviously in a phenomenal athlete. He's in great shape and isridiculously coordinated. I also think you see the hand-eye thing with golf. Some people, no matter how hard they try, just suck at golf and that is a skillsport. I do agree that football players are the most athletic, but I think hand-eye coordination is something that you can't teach.
 
but I think hand-eye coordination is something that you can't teach.
Ok I will agree that hand eye coordination can fall in with speed and vert. But by you bringing that up about other sports well lets just giveanother reason why NFL has the most atheltic players if you want to stay with that same logic. They run around with the athletic ability AND have the abilityto throw balls with precision accuracy catch balls that are coming at them at 50 and 60 MPH and evade tacklers like greased chickens.

So like I was saying anyway you slice it Track and Field > NFL > other sports.
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People forget that along with the speed and strength of NBA players, they also have to be able to shoot the ball into a basket. NFL players have an entireendzone to score. One may argue a football kicker has to kick the football from 40 yards away but kickers aren't usually athletic, all they do is kick.
 
i think u have to be more athletically gifted to play in the NFL but i do think its easier to be good at football then basketball
 
to even BE in professional sprinting or long-jumping you have to be at least in the top 1% of the world athletically.
It's very specialized though.. i'm much more impressed by the best basketball players than i am the best track guys, because basketballplayers have to do a lot of different athletic things and do them well... while if you're a 100 meter sprinter, that's all you need to be good at.. Youdon't need a jump shot, handles, knowledge of the game, etc.. you run 100 meters and that's what you do.

Most of it is god given talent as well - not that they don't work hard to fine tune it, but i could practice just as long and hard as the fastest men inthe world and never touch their times.. or even smell them. The best are destined to be the best... in less specialized sports, you've got a combinationof great athletes and hard workers.

I don't know - track athletes always kinda bothered me in that sense. I think what they do is impressive, but i'm still more impressed by"sport" athletes since they have to combine other things with their athletic ability.
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DoubleJs07 wrote:
Baseball:

Jody Gathright, Grady Sizemore, Mike Hampton (no joke)

�Joey Gathright got a brother?
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what about Alfonso Soriano? and almost all middle-infielder are stupid athletic.
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Originally Posted by K8be wan Kenobi

Y'all can laugh but hockey has requires a lot of athletic skill as well...hockey players may not run 4.5's....but the eye hand coordination, speed of the game, and fact that you're on skates requires a lot of athleticism. I'd say best athletes:
1) Football
2) Hockey
3) Soccer
4) Bball
5) Baseball

Of the major sports of course.
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hockey? mehhh... no hockey player has a 40 inch vertical. one of my best friends from childhood plays semi-pro hockey, and he's strong, has good hand-eye coordination, and has good technique with the hockey stick, but that doesn't make him a great overall athlete.

i think its definitely between NFL and NBA, those two are clearly ahead of the other.

IMO, MLB is the worst, you got dudes with beer belly chewing gums.

uh oh... here comes 274thehood, Narum, and the other baseball fanboys who will post Bo Jackson and maybe 10 guys in the MLB who used to play football, and then will try to argue that they prove the MLB has the best athletes.

Soccer > Basketball IMO

You ever seen Martins (from New Castle F.C.) run? Dude runs an approx. 10 second 100 m
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Soccer players, midfielders especially, spend a lot of the game sprinting backwards and forwards across the field AND 8 out of 11 players usually play 90minutes.
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I don't know how you can turn this into a debate. Each sport specializes in different traits.

Football is mainly about strength and speed.

Basketball is stamina and precision.

Soccer is stamina.

etc. etc. etc. Yes, there are other attributes that go into each sport and maybe I got some wrong, but here's what I'm trying to say:

Trying to compare two sports like soccer (stamina) and football (strength) is stupid. It's like who is more athletically gifted: the guy who can run XXmiles or the football player who benches XX?

Now if you want to talk about which sport requires the most strength, or which one requires the most stamina, that we can do. But you can't really comparetwo sports where the skills required are at different levels.

Even with saying this, I'm guessing people here will still argue over their favorite sport.
 
Depends on how you define athleticism..pure athleticism (speed, quickness, jumping etc) I would say nfl

I'd rather define the question as who would be the best at the most sports... In that case my list would be
  1. basketball
  2. football
  3. baseball
  4. soccer
  5. hockey
 
that dude that jumped over the car
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wasn't even going full speed
but i'd have to say football
but with some basketball players..king james
 
Originally Posted by 21 World B Free 21

Depends on how you define athleticism..pure athleticism (speed, quickness, jumping etc) I would say nfl

I'd rather define the question as who would be the best at the most sports... In that case my list would be
  1. basketball
  2. football
  3. baseball
  4. soccer
  5. hockey
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For me, it'd be:
1) hockey
2) baseball
3) football
4) soccer (never played)
5) bball (never played)
 
Originally Posted by Chester McFloppy

DeadsetAce wrote:

For me, it'd be:
1) hockey
2) baseball
3) football
4) soccer (never played)
5) bball (never played)
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Baseball ahead of football and soccer?
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nah not in terms of athleticism...that list is in terms of what im good at...i think i misunderstood what dude above was saying though now that i look atit again
 
Originally Posted by DeadsetAce

Originally Posted by Chester McFloppy

DeadsetAce wrote:

For me, it'd be:
1) hockey
2) baseball
3) football
4) soccer (never played)
5) bball (never played)
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Baseball ahead of football and soccer?
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nah not in terms of athleticism...that list is in terms of what im good at


Ahhh, okay... had me worried for a minute.
 
Originally Posted by K8be wan Kenobi

if the question was "which sport has the most hard-working players", i'd definitely say NBA. you would be hard-pressed to find any NBA player that doesn't have thousands and thousands of hours in the gym under their belts, just working on skills like dribbling, jumpshooting, defense, etc. except maybe a guy like Kwame Brown, who obviously doesn't know the meaning of hard work and it's a mistake that he's in the league.
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hardest working? how about hockey? before you can do ANYTHING, you have to be able to skate.
 
Originally Posted by here 4 tha kickz

Originally Posted by K8be wan Kenobi

if the question was "which sport has the most hard-working players", i'd definitely say NBA. you would be hard-pressed to find any NBA player that doesn't have thousands and thousands of hours in the gym under their belts, just working on skills like dribbling, jumpshooting, defense, etc. except maybe a guy like Kwame Brown, who obviously doesn't know the meaning of hard work and it's a mistake that he's in the league.
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hardest working? how about hockey? before you can do ANYTHING, you have to be able to skate.
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you spend just as much time in the gym and on skill drills in hockey...you also have higher endurance. football players also work just as hard in the gymand on drills as well. i actually think basketball players work less than football and hockey players.
 
Originally Posted by K8be wan Kenobi

It's very specialized though.. i'm much more impressed by the best basketball players than i am the best track guys, because basketball players have to do a lot of different athletic things and do them well... while if you're a 100 meter sprinter, that's all you need to be good at.. You don't need a jump shot, handles, knowledge of the game, etc.. you run 100 meters and that's what you do.

Most of it is god given talent as well - not that they don't work hard to fine tune it, but i could practice just as long and hard as the fastest men in the world and never touch their times.. or even smell them. The best are destined to be the best... in less specialized sports, you've got a combination of great athletes and hard workers.

I don't know - track athletes always kinda bothered me in that sense. I think what they do is impressive, but i'm still more impressed by "sport" athletes since they have to combine other things with their athletic ability.
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i understand what you are saying, and this is kinda like the response i posted earlier to the hockey thing. being a "hard worker" is not the same as being "athletically gifted". you listed shooting a jump shot, handles, and knowledge of the game. those are not "athletic gifts" per se. nobody can be born with perfect shooting form, And 1 handles, and a knowledge of the ins and outs of basketball. those are all things that are taught by an outside source, and then you have to work hard on by yourself. they are skills.

i agree that a lot of track athletes are just born with the gift and don't have to work that hard, and those are exactly the types we are talking about. being able to run a 9.7 in the 100m is not a skill, it's an athletic gift. either you have it, or you don't. same thing with the random guys at the fitness center that can just jump out of the gym.

if the question was "which sport has the most hard-working players", i'd definitely say NBA. you would be hard-pressed to find any NBA player that doesn't have thousands and thousands of hours in the gym under their belts, just working on skills like dribbling, jumpshooting, defense, etc. except maybe a guy like Kwame Brown, who obviously doesn't know the meaning of hard work and it's a mistake that he's in the league.

but since the question is "which sport has the most athletically gifted players", obviously it's track, being that you have to be of a rare genetic breed to even succeed in track. there are no "ordinary" people succeeding in track like Kirk Hinrich or Eli Manning. and between the NFL and NBA, i give the edge to the NFL.

You ever seen Martins (from New Castle F.C.) run? Dude runs an approx. 10 second 100 m image

Obafemi Martins? yeah, actually a family who we're friends with is related to him. they named their son after him
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but yeah, he is crazy fast. there are a lot of great natural athletes in Nigeria who end up not getting anywhere because of the corruption in the system, so i was glad to see him make it.

Lies. Soccer takes a lot more "learned" skill than Basketball, period. Hand eye coordination is developed naturally by humans as we grow sobasketball is a sport where a kid can pick up his first bball at 10 and still make it to the pros. Soccer is all foot-eye coordination, try juggling a ballwith your hands, then try and do the same thing with your feet. Let me know what the numbers were.
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