2008 Senior Bowl Week Thread

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gotta break the direcTV boxes back out.

eddie Royal did 2 CBs in!
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Who was that who lit up savage
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drillin dudes in shells
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RB Washington, Chauncey (Southern California) FA
I think he would be worth a late second round or third round draft choice. he is a pounder in the redzone so teams should look at him in that typeof role.
 
Doucet and Bubba are going to be compared during the whole draft process. Come March 1st he gone be behind Bubba. (if he dares go to the combine)
 
Originally Posted by Goodfella 19

RB Washington, Chauncey (Southern California) FA
I think he would be worth a late second round or third round draft choice. he is a pounder in the redzone so teams should look at him in that type of role.


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Who in the hell are you kidding?
 
[table][tr][td]• André Woodson[/td] [td]
Kentucky​
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6042​
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234​
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32[sup]4/8[/sup]​
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9[sup]6/8[/sup]​
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Notes: Tall and a little soft but looks the part.[/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][td]• Jacob Tamme[/td] [td]
Kentucky​
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6036​
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234​
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32​
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8[sup]2/8[/sup]​
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Notes: Looked normal and unimpressive overall.[/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][td]• Wesley Woodyard[/td] [td]
Kentucky​
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6005​
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219​
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32[sup]7/8[/sup]​
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9[sup]2/8[/sup]​
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Notes: Did not stand out in any way.[/td] [/tr][/table]
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these wildcats don't believe in the weight room.
 
Observations from North practices today...
After all of the talk about players dropping out of the game and heights/weights it was finally time to get on the field and play some football. The North team is being coached by the Oakland Raiders and they kicked things off with a relatively light practice, opting for shells rather than full pads. Things started off slow and they basically walked through some plays and stretched for the first fifteen minutes or so but after that things began to pick up. Here is a look at what happened and who stood out today.

• Two of the most impressive players on the field today both happened to be USC Trojans. Defensive tackle Sedrick Ellis was practically unblockable, blowing by Chad Rinehart on one play and being very disruptive in the backfield all afternoon. He also received a lot of praise from the coaching staff. Meanwhile his college teammate Keith Rivers, who drew a lot of praise from Raiders defensive coordinator Rob Ryan. Rivers looked quick and explosive moving both forward and laterally and even made a nice play in coverage twenty yards downfield against Kellen Davis.
• UCLA's Bruce Davis worked with the linebackers today and while you could tell he has a lot to learn he certainly didn't embarrass himself either.
• At wide receiver Adarius Bowman of Oklahoma St. did not look good and he struggled with drops all day. Early on he had to change cleats on the sidelines and something may have been bothering him because he never seemed to get comfortable. New Mexico's Marcus Smith was very energetic but he also dropped some balls today and after each one he made himself do pushups as punishment.
• Virginia Tech wideout Eddie Royal showed good change of direction skills and made a lot of big plays. Cal's Lavelle Hawkins looked really smooth, running excellent routes and just seeming to get open a lot. He also caught a nice touchdown pass against Terrell Thomas in 1-on-1's.
• Purdue's Dorien Bryant was real quick out of his breaks but Kansas State's Jordy Nelson was not and seemed to be doing everything a step slower than everyone else. On a positive note Nelson does adjust to the ball well.
• At quarterback nobody really blew the doors off the stadium but USC's John David Booty was the best of the bunch. Booty has a terrific delivery and throwing motion and really leads his targets well. Delaware's Joe Flacco needs to work on speeding up his drops but he had some moments and held his own despite playing against better competition than he's used to. Michigan's Chad Henne really throws a nice all but he didn't necessarily stand out.
• Iowa cornerback Charles Godfrey started off great, sticking with some smaller, quicker wideouts, but later in the practice he struggled a bit and gave up some completions.
• Michigan's Shawn Crable looks the part and stands out physically but he appeared to be a little awkward in his movements at times. Virginia Tech's Xavier Adibi was very active in 7-on-7's while UNLV's Beau Bell showed good range to the sideline and in coverage.
• USC tight end Fred Davis looked awfully short standing next to guys like Kellen Davis and Martin Rucker but he did make a nice catch in traffic and had the best day of the bunch.
• Indiana's Tracy Porter isn't known for a physical style of play but he played Adarius Bowman tough despite a drastic size difference and was able to stay in the hip pocket of most of the wideouts he was matched up against.
• USC offensive tackle Sam Baker displayed good use of his hands and nice footwork. He especially stood out in pass protection against speed rushers.
• Offensive guard Roy Schuening is stout at the point of attack and has good awareness.
• It was tough for the running backs to stand out in a practice like this but East Carolina's Chris Johnson was shifty and showcased his ability to make people miss. Justin Forsett also displayed good speed and elusiveness on a long run.
• North Carolina St. defensive tackle DeMario Pressley drew some positive notice from the coaching staff and showed good upper body strength and leverage, although he has a ways to go when it comes to footwork.
• West Virginia fullback Owen Schmitt was used extensively as a receiver out of the backfield and he did well. He's isn't graceful but he got the job done and even dragged Thomas DeCoud behind him on one play.
• Notre Dame defensive tackle Trevor Laws didn't look great in positional drills but he made at least one standout play, pushing Drew Radovich into the backfield and batting down a pass with authority.
• Michigan safety Jamar Adams really casts an imposing figure on the field and he delivered a big hit in 7-on-7's late in the practice.
• Eastern Michigan defensive end Jason Jones had a very nice day and seemed to be in the opponents backfield a lot.
• Not only is Nebraska offensive tackle Carl Nicks one of the most physically impressive players in Mobile but he did a good job of stonewalling Chris Ellis in 11-on-11's and showcased a physical and sometimes nasty demeanor.
• North Dakota St. punter Mike Dragosavich did a decent job of punting out of his own end zone but was a little inconsistent as well.
• Tom Zbikowski, Dorien Bryant and Eddie Royal worked as the punt returners.

There were a number of standout performances today but if I had to single out a couple of guys on each side of the ball Sedrick Ellis and Keith Rivers would easily be the defensive picks while Carl Nicks and Lavelle Hawkins would get the nod on offense. It was a good first day overall and there should be some excellent matchups throughout the rest of the week, especially between the offensive and defensive linemen. So day one for the North is officially in the books and things should only get better once they put on the full pads start hitting.
And the South team...
The South team held its first practice before a relatively big crowd in Fairhope. However, because the practice was not in full pads it was hard to get a read on many of the players. It also didn't help that the schedule practice included a lot of stretching and individual positions drills which may have been a solid coaching approach, but meant that for long stretches not much was really happening. It also didn't help that practice was held in cool and windy conditions that may have affected the passing and kicking to some extent.

When the players did get down to some serious business, it appeared that the South defense was ahead of the offense. Certainly none of the three South QBs - Colt Brennan of Hawaii, Kentucky's Andre' Woodson and Erik Ainge of Tennessee - had afternoons that that they will necessarily want on their pro job applications. Brennan did really gun the ball at times and showed nice touch on the very short stuff, but he really had to wind and step into medium and deep passes. He was also really leaning into many of his throws such that the release point appeared to be very low. As a result, many of Brennan's throws were wild high or wide. On the other hand, Kentucky's Woodson looked more like a prototype pocket passer with a high release point and an easy motion. Like Brennan, though, Woodson wasn't all that accurate, although he was 5-for-5 passing in a seven on seven drill. We didn't get quite as good a read on Ainge, who worked in a couple of drills with other units while Brennan and Woodson were working pure passing drills; however, the former Vols' star, a late replacement for Louisville QB Brian Brohm, wasn't that accurate either when he did get to throw the ball.

It probably didn't help the QBs grade that the South receivers, for the most part, didn't do a particularly good job getting open and struggled to catch the ball at times. The major exception was Florida WR Andre Caldwell, who was one of the top players on the field. Caldwell made some excellent moves to get open - in particular he left Alabama CB Simeon Castille, who otherwise had a pretty solid session, in his wake on a stop-and-go route - caught everything that came his way, and just looked like he wanted the ball out there. At the same time, massive Tennessee TE Brad Cottam also made a couple of tough catches in the seam in 7-on-7 drills. Cottam, who goes almost 6-8 and is over 270 pounds looks more like an offensive lineman, used his size to screen off defenders, showed decent mobility and good concentration hauling in the ball.

On the other hand, Louisville WR Harry Douglas really looked out of sorts. Douglas was very slow coming out of his breaks and had the ball bounce off his hands too many times, while Texas WR Limas Sweed looked a half step slow. Speedy Donnie Avery of Houston also didn't catch the ball all that well, but did show plenty of quickness into and out of breaks. Rangy Alabama WR D.J. Hall, a long-strider without much bulk, struggled to beat press coverage, but did make one nice catch in traffic over the middle in a 11-on-11 drill.

While the South receivers need to pick up the pace, the defensive secondary came to play this afternoon. Indeed, the most impressive player on the field today may have been little known Tennessee State DB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie. The 6-1, 180-pound Rodgers-Cromartie isn't necessarily the most physical DB, but he is a long strider with fluid hips who can really turn and run and change direction. Rodgers-Cromartie made the defensive play of the day when he cut off a route, stepped in front of a receiver and picked off the intended pass. Interestingly, while nominally a CB, Rodgers-Cromartie, was lining up at FS for the South squad today. Troy CB Leodis McKelvin, another emerging player, also showed quick feet and good flexibility moving in both directions; McKelvin was particularly comfortable when back-peddling. Meanwhile, the Tide's Castille and LSU CB Chevis Jackson, neither of whom is real big or fast, battled all afternoon and showed good quickness and instincts; both broke well on the ball and had a couple of pass breakups. Same for Auburn CB Patrick Lee who was physical and quick. On the other hand safeties Marcus Griffin of Texas and D.J. Wolfe of Oklahoma looked a little stiff at times.

This and that… Sans pads there wasn't any real tackling but the 'hit' of the day nonetheless came courtesy of Georgia Tech LB Phillip Wheeler who lowered a shoulder into and deposited Kentucky RB Rafael Little on his posterior. 'Non-hit' of the day belonged to an otherwise unidentified South defensive linemen who grabbed at Tulane RB Matt Forte and came away with a handful of shorts that ended up around Forte's knees. What is the old saying: no harm no foul! For the record, Forte, known as a tough 220-pounder, was surprisingly quick, as was Georgia Tech RB Tashard Choice, although again there wasn't any tackling. Before practice began one of the 49ers' coaches was schooling Kentucky QB Andre' Woodson, who took just about every snap at UK out of a shotgun, in the finer points of the footwork involved in dropping back into the pocket.. In the past, the North and South flipped the morning and afternoon practices on Tuesday and Wednesday. This year, though, the North will go in the morning both days, while the South will practice in the afternoons. Not sure if it is part of the plan, but there are always more people attending the South practices and it should be easier for those folks to get to the afternoon workouts.
 
RB Washington, Chauncey (Southern California) FA I think he would be worth a late second round or third round draft choice. he is a pounder in the redzone so teams should look at him in that type of role.


Who in the hell are you kidding?
im not kidding fool look at the guy from Arizona last year (henry last name i think). he had almost no touches and was drafted by the titans inthe 2 or 3 round. Washington has started at USC for the last 2 years and he has had a couple 200 yd games. I never said the guy should be a starter I saidteams should look at him as a 1st day guy. I mean even clarret got drafted first day. we all know how good that turned out. washington is not fast but he runshard. i dont think he will be FREE AGENT but i guess we will wait and see.
 
Originally Posted by Goodfella 19

im not kidding fool look at the guy from Arizona last year (henry last name i think). he had almost no touches and was drafted by the titans in the 2 or 3 round. Washington has started at USC for the last 2 years and he has had a couple 200 yd games. I never said the guy should be a starter I said teams should look at him as a 1st day guy. I mean even clarret got drafted first day. we all know how good that turned out. washington is not fast but he runs hard. i dont think he will be FREE AGENT but i guess we will wait and see.
The big difference is that Chris Henry was a Workout Warrior last year, which Chauncey Washington won't be by any stretch, and Henry was still aterrible reach in the second round, and Chauncey Washington would be as well. There's a SOLID 15 RBs in this draft better than Chauncey Washington. Ifhe's a first day pick, somebody's scouting department and general manager need to be fired on the spot.
 
Yeah...Henry busted like a 4.3 at the combine...Plus he was roided up so his tests were through the roof...

I think Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie is Antonio's cousin...I know they are both from Fla....

All I need to know about Bryant....Is that his role model is Petey....
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He's a good player though...Will prolly have to make his bones initially asa slot receiver...
 
Troy CB Leodis McKelvin, another emerging player, also showed quick feet and good flexibility moving in both directions; McKelvin was particularly comfortable when back-peddling
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somebody tell me where the RB from East Carolina has come from? I honestly didn't know who he was



gunna, you that high on Bryant? guess cuz you give him the Smitty comparison I don't see it that much
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...i dont know, just not that explosive to me


Tommy Z as a punt returner...
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....he was good at it in college but heaint breakin those tackles in the NFL
 
yall (damn the nt edittor aint workin, tryin to get me banned again) actin like Steve Smith been the man his whole career. he started out on special teams andbein Mushiin's wingman. thats just how Dorien gonna have to make his bones his first 3 or 4 iin the League. dorien not that explosive? ahh man U R buggin.
 
somebody tell me where the RB from East Carolina has come from? I honestly didn't know who he was
He's been back and forth from WR to RB his whole career until his senior year. ECU wasn't really trying to run the ball too much at thestart of the season and when they did Johnson exploded.
 
yea, im gonna have to hit up a bar to watch this. those notes are from NFL scouts? if so, a lof of these dudes are gonna be making friends with treadmills andeliptical machines before the draft and that's wassup
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