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So breaking a record makes you the greatest of all time? If so, a couple years ago that would have made Shaun Alexander the greatest RB of all time. We ALLknow that's not true. Jerry Rice> Moss.
Randy Moss on Jerry Rice
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What does that have to do with who is the better WR? If you ask me i think the playoffs are a time when your team needs you
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The 9ers game planned to get Jerry the ball, the Patriots don't need to even include Randy if they don't want. When they need him, he'll be there.
that is about the stupidest #*@% Ive ever seen.
and even stupider is the person co-signing that
u dont think the browns gameplanned for Jim Brown to touch the ball as much as possible? how bout the Lions with Barry Sanders? How bout the Billswith Thurman Thomas.
That is the whole point of football, putting your best players in the best opportunities to get the ball and WIN GAMES for you.
ok if u gameplan to get your best player the ball what does that say about the WR U guys are calling the best since according to you two fools he doesntget gameplanned to get the ball
Its hard to gameplan shorter routes for someone who isnt great after the catch, and doesnt have a propensity to turn 3 yard routes into TUbs.
... U know what, forget it, my bad for even coming in this thread in the 1st place. My mistake.
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^ I read that and was like "New England DOESN'T want him to get the ball...? What? How does that make sense?"
I still stand by the belief that this is getting played up more than it should though
I still stand by the belief that this is getting played up more than it should though
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That's your reason for Moss being better than Rice? Let me get this straight: So the huge amount of receptions Rice had counts as an argumentagainst his greatness? WoW!!!
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Football Experts huh???
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that is about the stupidest #*@% Ive ever seen.
and even stupider is the person co-signing that
u dont think the browns gameplanned for Jim Brown to touch the ball as much as possible? how bout the Lions with Barry Sanders? How bout the Bills with Thurman Thomas.
That is the whole point of football, putting your best players in the best opportunities to get the ball and WIN GAMES for you.
Its hard to gameplan shorter routes for someone who isnt great after the catch, and doesnt have a propensity to turn 3 yard routes into TUbs.
... U know what, forget it, my bad for even coming in this thread in the 1st place. My mistake.
I will co-sign that. If you don't step up in the playoffs then when are you going to step up. You get your best players the ball as much as you canand they are supposed to be there in crunch time. The Bulls didnt wait until the fourth quarter to get the ball to Jordan, you get him the ball as much aspossible.
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that is about the stupidest #*@% Ive ever seen.
and even stupider is the person co-signing that
u dont think the browns gameplanned for Jim Brown to touch the ball as much as possible? how bout the Lions with Barry Sanders? How bout the Bills with Thurman Thomas.
That is the whole point of football, putting your best players in the best opportunities to get the ball and WIN GAMES for you.
Its hard to gameplan shorter routes for someone who isnt great after the catch, and doesnt have a propensity to turn 3 yard routes into TUbs.
... U know what, forget it, my bad for even coming in this thread in the 1st place. My mistake.
How? Is it not normal for people to think greatly of themselves.Originally Posted by henz0
Dude has no respect
what I meant is that he could have been more humble, but I guess that's not Randy Moss............
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so Randy thinks of himself as the best WR of all time.... wow an athlete with an ego. so what?
i dont remember Randy ever disrespecting Rice. he just happens to think he's an overall better WR. its an opinion and yes he's allowed to have one, too
with that being said Moss has not accomplished nearly what Rice has. Period. Numbers don't always tell the whole story but, in Rice's case, its a wrap.
i dont remember Randy ever disrespecting Rice. he just happens to think he's an overall better WR. its an opinion and yes he's allowed to have one, too
with that being said Moss has not accomplished nearly what Rice has. Period. Numbers don't always tell the whole story but, in Rice's case, its a wrap.
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This arguement is alot closer than people think...
Jerry played basically his whole careers with 2 of the top 5 quarterbacks of all time (Montana & Young)
Granted Cunningham, B. Johnson, Culpepper are not slouches by any means but none compared to Montana & Young
**I don't even know who Moss qb was for his couple years in Oakland!
If Moss would of played his whole career with Brady his numbers could possibly be similar or better than Jerry's!
**Additionally I believe Chris Carter show equal skill level to Jerry Rice but just played on worst teams w/ worst qb's!
Jerry played basically his whole careers with 2 of the top 5 quarterbacks of all time (Montana & Young)
Granted Cunningham, B. Johnson, Culpepper are not slouches by any means but none compared to Montana & Young
**I don't even know who Moss qb was for his couple years in Oakland!
If Moss would of played his whole career with Brady his numbers could possibly be similar or better than Jerry's!
**Additionally I believe Chris Carter show equal skill level to Jerry Rice but just played on worst teams w/ worst qb's!
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WOW are you serious? Yea they dont need Moss b/c hes not a talented receiver... *****!
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Well it's been nearly 20 years since the prime of Rice's career so I would expect a bunch of 16 and 17 year olds to come out with write some bullcrapin agreement. I don't agree that he is the greatest receivers of all time. He has a few more seasons to go if he expects to solidify that title. Besides,it's not up to the player to decide that for himself. It's cool it he feels he's a great player and all, but he's really stroking himself withthose comments.
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how was he not humble? did u see the press conference? he didnt in anyway put Rice down. he simply said "well it was Jerry Rice....but id like to think i'm the best one to ever lace em up" or something close to that. i mean cmon now give the dude a break.
no i didn't actually see it..... I was just assuming based on the article.... I guess I was wrong..
that is about the stupidest #*@% Ive ever seen.
and even stupider is the person co-signing that
u dont think the browns gameplanned for Jim Brown to touch the ball as much as possible? how bout the Lions with Barry Sanders? How bout the Bills with Thurman Thomas.
That is the whole point of football, putting your best players in the best opportunities to get the ball and WIN GAMES for you.
Its hard to gameplan shorter routes for someone who isnt great after the catch, and doesnt have a propensity to turn 3 yard routes into TUbs.
... U know what, forget it, my bad for even coming in this thread in the 1st place. My mistake.
The point I was making was about the Super Bowl game Jerry had with all the catches and waht not. You were obviously making light of Randy not putting upbig numbers in the 2 playoff games. That is why I was saying that the 9ers were going to give the ball to Rice whenever they wanted. I didn't say Ricesucked, I didn't say anything negative at all about him. But if the Patriots want to run the ball, or pick apart the Jags with Welker or just flat outdon't want to force the ball to Moss, then it can't be held against him that he doesn't put up the same numbers he did in the regular season.
We all know that if the Patriots want they can force the ball to Moss all night and there's nothing anyone can do to stop them. But Brady and Billdon't work that way. Have we seen Brady throwing into double coverage, or throwing the deep balls like he ususally does to Moss at least twice a game? Nowe haven't. They're simply winning the games with what the defense gives them.
Maybe Moss has a huge super bowl, maybe he gets 1 catch for 10 yards, it's fine, he's still imo the best WR to ever lace em up. At the end of his runI'll reexamine my stance and see if I was wrong. Sorry I can't fall in line like all the rest of you guys afraid to have an opinion and back it up.
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Never have been a 49ers fan, but Rice>Moss.
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Good one, there.
Randy Moss is wrong.
99% of every position in football is questioned from a standpoint of who was the best at it...QB, you have people like Marino, Montana, Elway. RB you haveguys like Smith, Payton, Brown.
WR is the only position in football that has a UNANIMOUS, clear cut and universal choice as who was the best at it.
His name is Jerry Rice...and everyone comes after him.
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This thread is a joke. I cant believe I wasted time reading it. The argument that Rice is better is like arguing Michael Jordan is better than Vince Carter.And the argument that Moss is better is completely laughable. Either way its a pointless argument. Moss isnt even close to Rice. Period.
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Randy Moss is one of my fav. players but Rice > Moss without a doubt...
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First of all is everyone on here illiterate? He said POSSIBLY the best ever. Nowhere in the whole entire statement did he say "I am better than JerryRice" or even anything that would make you think that. Trying to make an argument where there isn't even one. Second about the gameplan. It makes alotsense if you actually think. The Pats have NOT looked Moss' way more than ten times in the 2 games combined. Why? Because he's on lock? NO Because heisn't stepping up? NO. It's because Brady isn't forcing anything at all. You give them the run they take it. Welker, take it. Watson, take it. Iwould fully expect Moss to go off in the SB but if he didn't it wouldn't be much of a surprise. In the playoffs winning>stats. So while Mossisn't getting 10 catches for 200 every playoff game he is winning...which is probably all he cares about in the first place. This Rice Moss argument is asbad as the Kobe, Jordan. Dudes REFUSE to let the idea that the formet GOAT could be getting passed up. It's ridiculous. Doesn't mean that Moss >Rice but the idea or argument can and will be made.
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that is about the stupidest #*@% Ive ever seen.
and even stupider is the person co-signing that
u dont think the browns gameplanned for Jim Brown to touch the ball as much as possible? how bout the Lions with Barry Sanders? How bout the Bills with Thurman Thomas.
That is the whole point of football, putting your best players in the best opportunities to get the ball and WIN GAMES for you.
Its hard to gameplan shorter routes for someone who isnt great after the catch, and doesnt have a propensity to turn 3 yard routes into TUbs.
... U know what, forget it, my bad for even coming in this thread in the 1st place. My mistake.
you're forgiven...i know you're an expert and all at running an nfl offense and i know you know the patriots offensive gameplan and all...but ourgameplan on offense is a little different than the browns and lions and bills of old. we go with the most open guy, not the the best guy. when you use a guy asa decoy, he's not getting the ball. if they double team moss, guess what that means? did you figure it out yet? i'll give you a couple more seconds todraw it up on a chalkboard and figure it out....
it means that wes welker is probably going to get open, it means that gaffney is probably going to get open. you're arguement about gameplanning for yourbest player or receiver to get the ball is ******ed and bill belichick would laugh in your face. the gameplan as far as the passing game is to get THEMOST OPEN WR the ball....especially when you have a QB with the ability to find the most open receiver. why would you throw into a double team whenwelker and gaffney are open? i know brady did this during the regular season, but that was when he trying to get moss a record. brady's favorite receiveris once again the most open receiver.
moss has helped turn wes welker into a 100 reception, 1000+ yard, and 8 TD guy
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Something tells me the post starter had an ulterior motive when he made this thread. That being for the J Rain haters to flex on him again
Nowhere in that article did Moss say he is better than Rice
Nowhere in that article did Moss say he is better than Rice
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the gameplan as far as the passing game is to get THE MOST OPEN WR the ball....especially when you have a QB with the ability to find the most open receiver.
like no one else caught passes for the 9ers
Like they forced Rice the ball into triple coverage. The 9ers didnt force the ball to Rice, they threw to the open receiver and more often than not, andhere's a lil tidbit for you, 85% of the time, Rice was THE OPEN WR regardless of defensive schemes, he was that good at every route.
but I guess they were so busy throwin RIce the ball, no one else did any numbers .
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[/tr][tr][td]Career[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td]303[/td] [td]284[/td] [td]1549[/td] [td]22895[/td] [td]14.8[/td] [td]197[/td] [td]96[/td] [td]5.1[/td] [td]75.6[/td] [td]87[/td] [td]645[/td] [td]10[/td] [td]43[/td] [td]7.4[/td] [td]2.1[/td] [td]0.3[/td] [td]23540[/td] [td]207[/td] [td]27[/td] [/tr][/table]
John Taylor
[table][tr][th=""]Year[/th] [th=""]Age[/th] [th=""]Tm[/th] [th=""]Pos[/th] [th=""]G[/th] [th=""]GS[/th] [th=""]Rec[/th] [th=""]Yds[/th] [th=""]Y/R[/th] [th=""]TD[/th] [th=""]Lng[/th] [th=""]R/G[/th] [th=""]Y/G[/th] [th=""]Att[/th] [th=""]Yds[/th] [th=""]TD[/th] [th=""]Lng[/th] [th=""]Y/A[/th] [th=""]Y/G[/th] [th=""]A/G[/th] [th=""]YScm[/th] [th=""]RRTD[/th] [th=""]Fmb[/th] [/tr][tr][td]1987[/td] [td]25[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td][/td] [td]12[/td] [td]2[/td] [td]9[/td] [td]151[/td] [td]16.8[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]34[/td] [td]0.8[/td] [td]12.6[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td]151[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]0[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1988*+[/td] [td]26[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]RET[/td] [td]12[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]14[/td] [td]325[/td] [td]23.2[/td] [td]2[/td] [td]73[/td] [td]1.2[/td] [td]27.1[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td]325[/td] [td]2[/td] [td]6[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1989*+[/td] [td]27[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]WR[/td] [td]15[/td] [td]15[/td] [td]60[/td] [td]1077[/td] [td]18.0[/td] [td]10[/td] [td]95[/td] [td]4.0[/td] [td]71.8[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]6.0[/td] [td]0.4[/td] [td]0.1[/td] [td]1083[/td] [td]10[/td] [td]3[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1990[/td] [td]28[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]WR[/td] [td]14[/td] [td]14[/td] [td]49[/td] [td]748[/td] [td]15.3[/td] [td]7[/td] [td]78[/td] [td]3.5[/td] [td]53.4[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td]748[/td] [td]7[/td] [td]2[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1991[/td] [td]29[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]WR[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]64[/td] [td]1011[/td] [td]15.8[/td] [td]9[/td] [td]97[/td] [td]4.0[/td] [td]63.2[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td]1011[/td] [td]9[/td] [td]1[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1992[/td] [td]30[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]WR[/td] [td]9[/td] [td]8[/td] [td]25[/td] [td]428[/td] [td]17.1[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]54[/td] [td]2.8[/td] [td]47.6[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]10[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]10[/td] [td]10.0[/td] [td]1.1[/td] [td]0.1[/td] [td]438[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]0[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1993[/td] [td]31[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]WR[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]56[/td] [td]940[/td] [td]16.8[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]76[/td] [td]3.5[/td] [td]58.8[/td] [td]2[/td] [td]17[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]12[/td] [td]8.5[/td] [td]1.1[/td] [td]0.1[/td] [td]957[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]1[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1994[/td] [td]32[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]WR[/td] [td]15[/td] [td]15[/td] [td]41[/td] [td]531[/td] [td]13.0[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]35[/td] [td]2.7[/td] [td]35.4[/td] [td]2[/td] [td]-2[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]-1.0[/td] [td]-0.1[/td] [td]0.1[/td] [td]529[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]1[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1995[/td] [td]33[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]WR[/td] [td]12[/td] [td]12[/td] [td]29[/td] [td]387[/td] [td]13.3[/td] [td]2[/td] [td]40[/td] [td]2.4[/td] [td]32.3[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td]387[/td] [td]2[/td] [td]2[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Career[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td]121[/td] [td]102[/td] [td]347[/td] [td]5598[/td] [td]16.1[/td] [td]43[/td] [td]97[/td] [td]2.9[/td] [td]46.3[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]31[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]12[/td] [td]5.2[/td] [td]0.3[/td] [td]0.0[/td] [td]5629[/td] [td]43[/td] [td]16[/td] [/tr][/table]
Brent Jones
[table][tr][th=""][/th] [th=""]Receiving[/th] [th=""]Rushing[/th] [th=""][/th] [th=""][/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]Year[/th] [th=""]Age[/th] [th=""]Tm[/th] [th=""]Pos[/th] [th=""]G[/th] [th=""]GS[/th] [th=""]Rec[/th] [th=""]Yds[/th] [th=""]Y/R[/th] [th=""]TD[/th] [th=""]Lng[/th] [th=""]R/G[/th] [th=""]Y/G[/th] [th=""]Att[/th] [th=""]Yds[/th] [th=""]TD[/th] [th=""]Lng[/th] [th=""]Y/A[/th] [th=""]Y/G[/th] [th=""]A/G[/th] [th=""]YScm[/th] [th=""]RRTD[/th] [th=""]Fmb[/th] [/tr][tr][td]1987[/td] [td]24[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td][/td] [td]4[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]2[/td] [td]35[/td] [td]17.5[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]22[/td] [td]0.5[/td] [td]8.8[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td]35[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]0[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1988[/td] [td]25[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td][/td] [td]11[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]8[/td] [td]57[/td] [td]7.1[/td] [td]2[/td] [td]18[/td] [td]0.7[/td] [td]5.2[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td]57[/td] [td]2[/td] [td]0[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1989[/td] [td]26[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]TE[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]40[/td] [td]500[/td] [td]12.5[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]36[/td] [td]2.5[/td] [td]31.3[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td]500[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]0[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1990[/td] [td]27[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]TE[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]56[/td] [td]747[/td] [td]13.3[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]67[/td] [td]3.5[/td] [td]46.7[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td]747[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]2[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1991[/td] [td]28[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]TE[/td] [td]10[/td] [td]9[/td] [td]27[/td] [td]417[/td] [td]15.4[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]41[/td] [td]2.7[/td] [td]41.7[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td]417[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]2[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1992*+[/td] [td]29[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]TE[/td] [td]15[/td] [td]15[/td] [td]45[/td] [td]628[/td] [td]14.0[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]43[/td] [td]3.0[/td] [td]41.9[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td]628[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]1[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1993*+[/td] [td]30[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]TE[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]68[/td] [td]735[/td] [td]10.8[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]29[/td] [td]4.3[/td] [td]45.9[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td]735[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]2[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1994*+[/td] [td]31[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]TE[/td] [td]15[/td] [td]15[/td] [td]49[/td] [td]670[/td] [td]13.7[/td] [td]9[/td] [td]69[/td] [td]3.3[/td] [td]44.7[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td]670[/td] [td]9[/td] [td]1[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1995*[/td] [td]32[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]TE[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]60[/td] [td]595[/td] [td]9.9[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]39[/td] [td]3.8[/td] [td]37.2[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td]595[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]3[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1996[/td] [td]33[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]TE[/td] [td]11[/td] [td]10[/td] [td]33[/td] [td]428[/td] [td]13.0[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]39[/td] [td]3.0[/td] [td]38.9[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td]428[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]0[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1997[/td] [td]34[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]TE[/td] [td]13[/td] [td]12[/td] [td]29[/td] [td]383[/td] [td]13.2[/td] [td]2[/td] [td]33[/td] [td]2.2[/td] [td]29.5[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td]383[/td] [td]2[/td] [td]1[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Career[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td]143[/td] [td]125[/td] [td]417[/td] [td]5195[/td] [td]12.5[/td] [td]33[/td] [td]69[/td] [td]2.9[/td] [td]36.3[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td]5195[/td] [td]33[/td] [td]12[/td] [/tr][/table]
Roger Craig
[table][tr][th=""][/th] [th=""]Rushing[/th] [th=""]Receiving[/th] [th=""][/th] [th=""][/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]Year[/th] [th=""]Age[/th] [th=""]Tm[/th] [th=""]Pos[/th] [th=""]G[/th] [th=""]GS[/th] [th=""]Att[/th] [th=""]Yds[/th] [th=""]TD[/th] [th=""]Lng[/th] [th=""]Y/A[/th] [th=""]Y/G[/th] [th=""]A/G[/th] [th=""]Rec[/th] [th=""]Yds[/th] [th=""]Y/R[/th] [th=""]TD[/th] [th=""]Lng[/th] [th=""]R/G[/th] [th=""]Y/G[/th] [th=""]YScm[/th] [th=""]RRTD[/th] [th=""]Fmb[/th] [/tr][tr][td]1983[/td] [td]23[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]FB[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]13[/td] [td]176[/td] [td]725[/td] [td]8[/td] [td]71[/td] [td]4.1[/td] [td]45.3[/td] [td]11.0[/td] [td]48[/td] [td]427[/td] [td]8.9[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]23[/td] [td]3.0[/td] [td]26.7[/td] [td]1152[/td] [td]12[/td] [td]6[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1984[/td] [td]24[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]FB[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]155[/td] [td]649[/td] [td]7[/td] [td]28[/td] [td]4.2[/td] [td]40.6[/td] [td]9.7[/td] [td]71[/td] [td]675[/td] [td]9.5[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]64[/td] [td]4.4[/td] [td]42.2[/td] [td]1324[/td] [td]10[/td] [td]3[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1985*+[/td] [td]25[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]FB[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]214[/td] [td]1050[/td] [td]9[/td] [td]62[/td] [td]4.9[/td] [td]65.6[/td] [td]13.4[/td] [td]92[/td] [td]1016[/td] [td]11.0[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]73[/td] [td]5.8[/td] [td]63.5[/td] [td]2066[/td] [td]15[/td] [td]5[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1986[/td] [td]26[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]FB[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]15[/td] [td]204[/td] [td]830[/td] [td]7[/td] [td]25[/td] [td]4.1[/td] [td]51.9[/td] [td]12.8[/td] [td]81[/td] [td]624[/td] [td]7.7[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]48[/td] [td]5.1[/td] [td]39.0[/td] [td]1454[/td] [td]7[/td] [td]4[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1987*+[/td] [td]27[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]RB/fb[/td] [td]14[/td] [td]14[/td] [td]215[/td] [td]815[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]25[/td] [td]3.8[/td] [td]58.2[/td] [td]15.4[/td] [td]66[/td] [td]492[/td] [td]7.5[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]35[/td] [td]4.7[/td] [td]35.1[/td] [td]1307[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]5[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1988*+[/td] [td]28[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]RB[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]15[/td] [td]310[/td] [td]1502[/td] [td]9[/td] [td]46[/td] [td]4.8[/td] [td]93.9[/td] [td]19.4[/td] [td]76[/td] [td]534[/td] [td]7.0[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]22[/td] [td]4.8[/td] [td]33.4[/td] [td]2036[/td] [td]10[/td] [td]8[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1989*+[/td] [td]29[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]RB[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]271[/td] [td]1054[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]27[/td] [td]3.9[/td] [td]65.9[/td] [td]16.9[/td] [td]49[/td] [td]473[/td] [td]9.7[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]44[/td] [td]3.1[/td] [td]29.6[/td] [td]1527[/td] [td]7[/td] [td]4[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1990[/td] [td]30[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]RB[/td] [td]11[/td] [td]11[/td] [td]141[/td] [td]439[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]26[/td] [td]3.1[/td] [td]39.9[/td] [td]12.8[/td] [td]25[/td] [td]201[/td] [td]8.0[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]31[/td] [td]2.3[/td] [td]18.3[/td] [td]640[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]2[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1991[/td] [td]31[/td] [td]RAI[/td] [td]RB[/td] [td]15[/td] [td]13[/td] [td]162[/td] [td]590[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]15[/td] [td]3.6[/td] [td]39.3[/td] [td]10.8[/td] [td]17[/td] [td]136[/td] [td]8.0[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]20[/td] [td]1.1[/td] [td]9.1[/td] [td]726[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]2[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1992[/td] [td]32[/td] [td]MIN[/td] [td][/td] [td]15[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]105[/td] [td]416[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]21[/td] [td]4.0[/td] [td]27.7[/td] [td]7.0[/td] [td]22[/td] [td]164[/td] [td]7.5[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]22[/td] [td]1.5[/td] [td]10.9[/td] [td]580[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]2[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1993[/td] [td]33[/td] [td]MIN[/td] [td][/td] [td]14[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]38[/td] [td]119[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]11[/td] [td]3.1[/td] [td]8.5[/td] [td]2.7[/td] [td]19[/td] [td]169[/td] [td]8.9[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]31[/td] [td]1.4[/td] [td]12.1[/td] [td]288[/td] [td]2[/td] [td]1[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Career[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td]165[/td] [td]133[/td] [td]1991[/td] [td]8189[/td] [td]56[/td] [td]71[/td] [td]4.1[/td] [td]49.6[/td] [td]12.1[/td] [td]566[/td] [td]4911[/td] [td]8.7[/td] [td]17[/td] [td]73[/td] [td]3.4[/td] [td]29.8[/td] [td]13100[/td] [td]73[/td] [td]42[/td] [/tr][/table]
Tom Rathman
[table][tr][th=""]Rushing[/th] [th=""]Receiving[/th] [th=""][/th] [th=""][/th] [/tr][tr][th=""]Year[/th] [th=""]Age[/th] [th=""]Tm[/th] [th=""]Pos[/th] [th=""]G[/th] [th=""]GS[/th] [th=""]Att[/th] [th=""]Yds[/th] [th=""]TD[/th] [th=""]Lng[/th] [th=""]Y/A[/th] [th=""]Y/G[/th] [th=""]A/G[/th] [th=""]Rec[/th] [th=""]Yds[/th] [th=""]Y/R[/th] [th=""]TD[/th] [th=""]Lng[/th] [th=""]R/G[/th] [th=""]Y/G[/th] [th=""]YScm[/th] [th=""]RRTD[/th] [th=""]Fmb[/th] [/tr][tr][td]1986[/td] [td]24[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td][/td] [td]16[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]33[/td] [td]138[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]29[/td] [td]4.2[/td] [td]8.6[/td] [td]2.1[/td] [td]13[/td] [td]121[/td] [td]9.3[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]14[/td] [td]0.8[/td] [td]7.6[/td] [td]259[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]0[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1987[/td] [td]25[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]FB[/td] [td]12[/td] [td]7[/td] [td]62[/td] [td]257[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]35[/td] [td]4.1[/td] [td]21.4[/td] [td]5.2[/td] [td]30[/td] [td]329[/td] [td]11.0[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]29[/td] [td]2.5[/td] [td]27.4[/td] [td]586[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]1[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1988[/td] [td]26[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]FB[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]102[/td] [td]427[/td] [td]2[/td] [td]26[/td] [td]4.2[/td] [td]26.7[/td] [td]6.4[/td] [td]42[/td] [td]382[/td] [td]9.1[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]24[/td] [td]2.6[/td] [td]23.9[/td] [td]809[/td] [td]2[/td] [td]0[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1989[/td] [td]27[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]FB[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]79[/td] [td]305[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]13[/td] [td]3.9[/td] [td]19.1[/td] [td]4.9[/td] [td]73[/td] [td]616[/td] [td]8.4[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]36[/td] [td]4.6[/td] [td]38.5[/td] [td]921[/td] [td]2[/td] [td]1[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1990[/td] [td]28[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]FB[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]101[/td] [td]318[/td] [td]7[/td] [td]22[/td] [td]3.1[/td] [td]19.9[/td] [td]6.3[/td] [td]48[/td] [td]327[/td] [td]6.8[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]28[/td] [td]3.0[/td] [td]20.4[/td] [td]645[/td] [td]7[/td] [td]2[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1991[/td] [td]29[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]FB[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]63[/td] [td]183[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]2.9[/td] [td]11.4[/td] [td]3.9[/td] [td]34[/td] [td]286[/td] [td]8.4[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]32[/td] [td]2.1[/td] [td]17.9[/td] [td]469[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]2[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1992[/td] [td]30[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td]FB[/td] [td]15[/td] [td]15[/td] [td]57[/td] [td]194[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]17[/td] [td]3.4[/td] [td]12.9[/td] [td]3.8[/td] [td]44[/td] [td]343[/td] [td]7.8[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]27[/td] [td]2.9[/td] [td]22.9[/td] [td]537[/td] [td]9[/td] [td]1[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1993[/td] [td]31[/td] [td]SFO[/td] [td][/td] [td]8[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]19[/td] [td]80[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]19[/td] [td]4.2[/td] [td]10.0[/td] [td]2.4[/td] [td]10[/td] [td]86[/td] [td]8.6[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]17[/td] [td]1.3[/td] [td]10.8[/td] [td]166[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]0[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1994[/td] [td]32[/td] [td]RAI[/td] [td]FB[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]28[/td] [td]118[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]14[/td] [td]4.2[/td] [td]7.4[/td] [td]1.8[/td] [td]26[/td] [td]194[/td] [td]7.5[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]18[/td] [td]1.6[/td] [td]12.1[/td] [td]312[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]0[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Career[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td]131[/td] [td]107[/td] [td]544[/td] [td]2020[/td] [td]26[/td] [td]35[/td] [td]3.7[/td] [td]15.4[/td] [td]4.2[/td] [td]320[/td] [td]2684[/td] [td]8.4[/td] [td]8[/td] [td]36[/td] [td]2.4[/td] [td]20.5[/td] [td]4704[/td] [td]34[/td] [td]7[/td] [/tr][/table]
so you honestly believe the Patriots dont run plays and gameplan to get Randy Moss the ball?
Foolish
You can say "yea, your an expert yada yada stuff" all you want but when it comes to football, I know what Im talkin about.
and ANYONE co-signing that Moss isnt gameplanned to get the football, shows they dont know what they're talkin about.
Something tells me the post starter had an ulterior motive when he made this thread. That being for the J Rain haters to flex on him again
Yea, this thread has "NT sting operation" written all over it
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