Randy Moss on Jerry Rice

Moss hasn't even surpassed Cris Carter or Tim Brown to be considered the greatest WR of all time, let alone Jerry Rice...

Matter of fact...just to start a little debate..is Jerry the greatest WR of all time?? I mean, he has had a pretty damn good QB throughout his whole career,but if you look at Cris Carter and Tim Brown they never really had a consistant QB like Rice and still put up hall of fame numbers...
 
^ I'm starting to think the same thing... I kept saying "Moss didn't say that" and only two other people have acknowledged it. This is aJRain bait and trap thread...

But he's playing it cool, chilling in the background right now
 
Originally Posted by 1D

Now, certainly not all time

Last year he wasn't better than Ron Curry.
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.. truth... being the most talented and the GOAT is two differentconcepts... You got to bring it every game including the playoffs and not use the excuse of being double/triple teamed/ across the middle/ect..... Rice facethe same thing being the #1 reciever on his team(s)
Rich Gannon was no Steve Young or Montana yet Rice still manage a pro bowl year when he was apart of the last Raiders team that resembled an NFL team....

Moss is first ballot HOF.... period... end of story.... not the GOAT... whether he said ( and he didnt) or not.....
 
Originally Posted by J RAIN 23

i was waiting for someone to start a thread ab this.

all i can really say is... i concur. moss is the goat.

moss 4 super bowl mvp. i'm gonna get carpal tunnel syndrome from voting for him so much
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Did he supply you with kneepads also?

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Rice's number speak for themselves...

For Moss to even come into the argument he would have to win 2 or 3 rings and get close to Rice's numbers....
 
Whatever the Patriots are full of arrogant people and the media loves them so they will never get a bad rep like other athletes.
 
Stop with the misleading title. Randy didn't say anything, you just trying to get people riled up again. Even ska noticed Randy said POSSIBLY - tell mewhat receiver doesn't think they will eventually become the best of all time?
 
Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

the gameplan as far as the passing game is to get THE MOST OPEN WR the ball....especially when you have a QB with the ability to find the most open receiver.
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like no one else caught passes for the 9ers
Like they forced Rice the ball into triple coverage. The 9ers didnt force the ball to Rice, they threw to the open receiver and more often than not, and here's a lil tidbit for you, 85% of the time, Rice was THE OPEN WR regardless of defensive schemes, he was that good at every route.

but I guess they were so busy throwin RIce the ball, no one else did any numbers .
so you honestly believe the Patriots dont run plays and gameplan to get Randy Moss the ball?
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Foolish

You can say "yea, your an expert yada yada stuff" all you want but when it comes to football, I know what Im talkin about.
and ANYONE co-signing that Moss isnt gameplanned to get the football, shows they dont know what they're talkin about.



Right...you know your stuff...thats the biggest crock ive ever heard if you think the Pats offensive gameplan centers on anyone. If the gameplan was to getMoss the ball, he'd get the ball. If you ACTUALLY knew anything, you'd know Brady doesn't key in on one guy. It's the open guy who is gettingthe ball, period. You can trust me because, as you put it, "I know what Im talkin about."

Btw...nice touch with the 85% statistic. How much film did you watch to come up with that number, Jaws?
 
Right...you know your stuff...thats the biggest crock ive ever heard if you think the Pats offensive gameplan centers on anyone. If the gameplan was to get Moss the ball, he'd get the ball. If you ACTUALLY knew anything, you'd know Brady doesn't key in on one guy. It's the open guy who is getting the ball, period. You can trust me because, as you put it, "I know what Im talkin about."

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where did I say, he keys in on one guy? show me where?
U dont know what "gameplan to get someone the ball" means, thats the basis of the problem here.
that means trhere are specific plays, whether it be a pick play, crossing route, fade, or an isolation by formation where the play is designed for Moss to bethe first option. that IS what " a gameplan" means. it doesnt mean force the ball no matter the coverage orreads.
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thats My bad tho, I didnt think I would have to explain elementary football in a football thread to supposed "football heads". If any furtherquestions on the basics, hit me in a pm, Im more than happy to help
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Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

Right...you know your stuff...thats the biggest crock ive ever heard if you think the Pats offensive gameplan centers on anyone. If the gameplan was to get Moss the ball, he'd get the ball. If you ACTUALLY knew anything, you'd know Brady doesn't key in on one guy. It's the open guy who is getting the ball, period. You can trust me because, as you put it, "I know what Im talkin about."
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where did I say, he keys in on one guy? show me where?
U dont know what "gameplan to get someone the ball" means, thats the basis of the problem here.
that means trhere are specific plays, whether it be a pick play, crossing route, fade, or an isolation by formation where the play is designed for Moss to be the first option. that IS what " a gameplan" means. it doesnt mean force the ball no matter the coverage or reads.
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thats My bad tho, I didnt think I would have to explain elementary football in a football thread to supposed "football heads". If any further questions on the basics, hit me in a pm, Im more than happy to help


nice try...keep deflecting
 
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"deflecting", what exactly am I deflecting?
that you dont know what you're talking about at all? that you dont know the difference between gameplan and force the ball no matter what?that You think Jerry Rice got forced the ball and you and the other guy are " paying attention.... " ?


please, let me know ...
 
Idiot Pat/Moss D riders....
Jerry Rice was not the ONLY option on that very portent niners team, if you think they FORCED him the ball... John Taylor Brent Jones Roger Craig? Oh wait you16 yr olds are too young to even remember those days. The Niners offense is all their SB wins is way better than the Pats offense
 
Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

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"deflecting", what exactly am I deflecting?
that you dont know what you're talking about at all? that you dont know the difference between gameplan and force the ball no matter what? that You think Jerry Rice got forced the ball and you and the other guy are " paying attention.... " ?


please, let me know ...
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where did i say rice was forced the ball. YOU said you always gameplan to get your best player the ball...i simply said THE PATS gameplan to get the mostopen wr the ball. if you wanna get technical on words go for it...but the Patriots never gameplan to get anyone specific the ball...they plan what type ofoffense to run, go out there, and have brady hit whoever is open. thats the gameplan. its not, lets try and get Moss open this week, lets try and get Welkeropen. its more like, lets spread em out and force them to pick who they want to leave open. thats all.
 
Let me add that in my original quote...I didn't mean to quote the Moss > Rice part. I think that needs to wait until Moss is done playing. That's mybad for not stating that in my first quote.
 
DeadsetAce, shut up. You're talking like you're in film room watching tape with all the coaches and feeding Bill Belichick is favorite Doritos. If Mosswas indeed the greatest receiver of all time, beating double coverage wouldn't be so difficult - considering his team is playing for perfection I wouldthink Moss could get more than a reception or two. Unless you want to admit that Moss has difficulty beating double coverage, or that case in Florida has himthinking about anything other than football. If that's the case, he can't be the GOAT - he lacks heart and focus.
 
Originally Posted by 715 asterisk

DeadsetAce, shut up. You're talking like you're in film room watching tape with all the coaches and feeding Bill Belichick is favorite Doritos. If Moss was indeed the greatest receiver of all time, beating double coverage wouldn't be so difficult - considering his team is playing for perfection I would think Moss could get more than a reception or two. Unless you want to admit that Moss has difficulty beating double coverage, or that case in Florida has him thinking about anything other than football. If that's the case, he can't be the GOAT - he lacks heart and focus.
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Learn to read homey before you come in and talk with the bigboys
 
Originally Posted by DeadsetAce

Originally Posted by CP1708

The 9ers game planned to get Jerry the ball, the Patriots don't need to even include Randy if they don't want. When they need him, he'll be there.

Moss > Rice
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Someone who finally pays attention....
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All I needed to see or "read" was this garbage.

P.S. Keep hitting the refresh button wishing someone would finally pay attention to you.
P.P.S. Calling yourself a big boy? Maaad corny, not to mention you're lying to yourself.
 
Originally Posted by 715 asterisk

Originally Posted by DeadsetAce

Originally Posted by CP1708

The 9ers game planned to get Jerry the ball, the Patriots don't need to even include Randy if they don't want. When they need him, he'll be there.

Moss > Rice
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Someone who finally pays attention....
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All I needed to see or "read" was this garbage.

P.S. Keep hitting the refresh button wishing someone would finally pay attention to you.
P.P.S. Calling yourself a big boy? Maaad corny, not to mention you're lying to yourself.
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whatever helps you sleep at night
did you "read" this?
Originally Posted by DeadsetAce

Let me add that in my original quote...I didn't mean to quote the Moss > Rice part. I think that needs to wait until Moss is done playing. That's my bad for not stating that in my first quote.
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at this thread still going. Randy Moss is not as complete areceiver as Jerry Rice, period, end of story. I don't need to sit in here and spit knowledge, give opinions, or anything. Watch film of the two receiversand tell me which is a more complete wide receiver. I ain't talking about physically gifted, faster, more explosive, one-handed catches, yadda yadda...watch the two players side-by-side and you will see who the more COMPLETE wide receiver is.

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I decided NOT to read that considering you were just running your mouth and then all of a sudden decide to go back on your word.
 
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