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[d e beatup]

Maybe it's time to focus on mobility, flexibility and recovery as opposed to how many plates you can put on the bar. Just saying.

I've only been using 135 for squats, doing squat cleans in sets of 10 & back squats sets of 20. Focusing on proper angle, technique & hip flexibility. Once those improve more I'll go back to loading it up.

The gym can very much be like real life where guys try to impress other guys and don't even realize it. I use like friggin 15s on shoulders because I know my mobility issues. I'm sure others snicker but I do me.

 

[Bert.]

I've went to the doctor, all they told me was to do stretches and all this crap which I've done and it's helped. The sciatica I had has been gone for quite awhile now so thank god for that.


As of late, the pinching pain as been coming and going every few weeks and it's only gonna get worse. I'm gonna set an appointment soon with my new doctor and see a good specialist because you are right, down the road I'm gonna be screwed

Did they do an MRI? If they didnt, they are just speculating as to what the problem is. Even if they did, try to get an updated one.

A good PT will do wonders depending on how bad it is, but it doesnt sound like youre at the point of no return. Mine was keeping me from working, lifting, screwing, and everything in between. People dont understand back pain until theyve experienced sciatica. I used to say that if someone told me I had to live with it for the rest of my life, I'd kill myself. I was pretty serious too, it was fin miserable. There is light at the end of the tunnel though, you just gotta give it time and lay off the weights for awhile. I opted for a discectomy because it was minimally invasive and seemed like the only answer. A lot of older guys told me I was in for trouble having surgery at 24 but I didnt have many options. I woke up from the anesthesia and could already feel relief. I have not regretted it for even a second. Yes, I basically had to start over with the weights but it is what it is. Two simple things you can do that may help are dead hangs and an inversion table. Dead hangs anywhere, and inversion tables can be found on CL for dirt cheap; I've talked to a lot of people who swear by them too. Let me know if you have any questions, I learned quite a bit from the experience.

No MRI

they just took x-rays of my back. this was years ago when i went to a crap doctor.

i have a new doctor at a whole new state of the art facility and will do any testing i ask him to do

appreciate the advice and info. def gonna get it checked out before it gets any worse

 

[blastercombo]

Simply put, some people just have bad backs, knees, shoulders, ext. you're just prone to hurting them over and over again no matter how many times you "fix" them. It sucks but there's no way around that

 

[based mod]

Love watching cyst popping vids on Youtube


I wouldn't recommend you guys lancing cysts on your own. They'll likely just fill back up with fluid anyway. You need to have the whole sac removed.

 

[djyoung08]

Simply put, some people just have bad backs, knees, shoulders, ext. you're just prone to hurting them over and over again no matter how many times you "fix" them. It sucks but there's no way around that

Bingo...

I have a messed up lower back and i've injured it twice... once on squats and once on DLs.

My boy has messed up shoulders

Some folks have multiple bad spots.

Gotta work around those issues and do the best we can

 

[jjs07]

Can't stress enough as to how helpful Jonnie Candito's videos are.

 

[Bert.]

Simply put, some people just have bad backs, knees, shoulders, ext. you're just prone to hurting them over and over again no matter how many times you "fix" them. It sucks but there's no way around that

Bingo...

I have a messed up lower back and i've injured it twice... once on squats and once on DLs.

My boy has messed up shoulders

Some folks have multiple bad spots.

Gotta work around those issues and do the best we can

with me, back and knees

pretty much the two worst

i gotta start taking care of myself. i dont wanna be crippled by 50 :x

 

[baltimoregutta]

Question...

Has anybody had their knees 'tingle' after doing heavy squats?

I wrap my knees after 315...and I've been going heavy weight, low reps for almost 2 months now. Within the last 3 weeks, I've noticed my knees would tingle. There hasn't been an obvious pattern, but I don't think it's good news.

My knees follow my toes on squats, and I rarely have them internally rotate.

 

[mister friendly]

Question...

Has anybody had their knees 'tingle' after doing heavy squats?

I wrap my knees after 315...and I've been going heavy weight, low reps for almost 2 months now. Within the last 3 weeks, I've noticed my knees would tingle. There hasn't been an obvious pattern, but I don't think it's good news.

My knees follow my toes on squats, and I rarely have them internally rotate.

Do you try to squat slightly pigeon toed?

Also do you go past parallel?

 

[baltimoregutta]

Question...

Has anybody had their knees 'tingle' after doing heavy squats?

I wrap my knees after 315...and I've been going heavy weight, low reps for almost 2 months now. Within the last 3 weeks, I've noticed my knees would tingle. There hasn't been an obvious pattern, but I don't think it's good news.

My knees follow my toes on squats, and I rarely have them internally rotate.

Do you try to squat slightly pigeon toed?

Also do you go past parallel?

I don't squat pigeon toed. Toes are always pointed out in a natural manner.

I go past parallel. I exclusively low bar squat for now, so I go as low as I can without my lower back rounding.

 

[ronaldcinho]

just started squatting twice a week...I'm digging it so far...finally repping 225 easy for the first time since my junior year of high school. Physical therapy is finally paying off

 

[mr marcus]

I only do legs once a week ...my thighs already made most my denim tight as hell and I've only been at it 7 months

 

[mister friendly]

Question...

Has anybody had their knees 'tingle' after doing heavy squats?

I wrap my knees after 315...and I've been going heavy weight, low reps for almost 2 months now. Within the last 3 weeks, I've noticed my knees would tingle. There hasn't been an obvious pattern, but I don't think it's good news.

My knees follow my toes on squats, and I rarely have them internally rotate.

Do you try to squat slightly pigeon toed?

Also do you go past parallel?

I don't squat pigeon toed. Toes are always pointed out in a natural manner.

I go past parallel. I exclusively low bar squat for now, so I go as low as I can without my lower back rounding.

I meant with your toes facing out slightly not pigeon toed

Supposedly that combined with no squatting past parallel help take pressure off your knees

 

[iheartboost]

The **** this ***** have on his back :x :x :x :x :x

 

[ooiron manoo]

Go get your knees checked out if you have health insurance. Better be safe than sorry. Might need a de load week earlier than programmed.

No squatting below parallel... Pfffft.

Have you tried tempo squats?

 

[based mod]

Question...

Has anybody had their knees 'tingle' after doing heavy squats?

I wrap my knees after 315...and I've been going heavy weight, low reps for almost 2 months now. Within the last 3 weeks, I've noticed my knees would tingle. There hasn't been an obvious pattern, but I don't think it's good news.

My knees follow my toes on squats, and I rarely have them internally rotate.

Do you try to squat slightly pigeon toed?

Also do you go past parallel?

I don't squat pigeon toed. Toes are always pointed out in a natural manner.

I go past parallel. I exclusively low bar squat for now, so I go as low as I can without my lower back rounding.

I meant with your toes facing out slightly not pigeon toed

Supposedly that combined with no squatting past parallel help take pressure off your knees

I've always heard the opposite

 

[mister friendly]

I recently had a scope on my knee and the doctor said squatting past parallel is bad

Somehow that technique has perforated thru the athletic ranks but think about it when you go past parallel it kinda feels like you aren't using your leg muscles if that makes sense

 

[ooiron manoo]

You're not squatting correctly if you don't feel like you are using your leg muscles when coming out of the hole.

Should of hit that doc with the "do you even lift?"

 

[mister friendly]

Nah man

The doctor works with a professional sport team and universities

Theres a certain point when you go past parallel that you feel like the power comes less from butt, hamstrings and quads and more from your knee

Whats the point of squatting past parallel?

What sport do you get in a position where you're past parallel?

Football? No......Baseball? No......Basketball? No

Maybe going past parallel is ok when you are using really light weight to build some flexibility but for moderate to heavy weight? No

 

[hyper cutter]

For instance look at baseball catchers.

When they're in the squat, their knees are usually "past parallel". But they're at rest and in that position for innings on end.

Of course if they were in an actual squat thighs parallel to the ground they wouldn't last nearly as long.

Which is to say the "past parallel" position isn't activating the muscles really. Just kinda resting. But imagine with hella weight? And trying to get out of the hole?

At that point yeah I think the doc has a point you know?

 

[baltimoregutta]

Question...

Has anybody had their knees 'tingle' after doing heavy squats?

I wrap my knees after 315...and I've been going heavy weight, low reps for almost 2 months now. Within the last 3 weeks, I've noticed my knees would tingle. There hasn't been an obvious pattern, but I don't think it's good news.

My knees follow my toes on squats, and I rarely have them internally rotate.

Do you try to squat slightly pigeon toed?

Also do you go past parallel?

I don't squat pigeon toed. Toes are always pointed out in a natural manner.

I go past parallel. I exclusively low bar squat for now, so I go as low as I can without my lower back rounding.

I meant with your toes facing out slightly not pigeon toed

Supposedly that combined with no squatting past parallel help take pressure off your knees

Yup. My toes are pointed out slightly. In a natural manner.

I'm going through a deload week now. I'll squat lighter for more reps this week, and try to go heavy again next week.

I was also thinking that squatting for heavy weight, and low reps might be the cause. I was doing it weekly without a 'hypertrophy' day to break it up.

 

[105950]

NT beasts..please, help....i cannot get past 5x5 175lb squat, and I am constantly second guessing my form.  The vid below is kind of old and its only 140lb - but am I doing everything correctly, as far as my path is concerned?  Also, is it weird that my squat and bench work weight are identical? 

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might as well do a deadlift check.  I recently pulled something in my leg doing deads so I did a MAJOR deload.  

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[bigboss]

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Just because he's a doctor doesn't mean he's right.

Olympic lifting and Powerlifting both require you to squat past parallel. 

Like Ironman said, if you feel like your not using your legs then your doing something wrong. Theres no way your doing any substantial weight with that kind of form.

Some people are going to be more quad dominant squatters while others more hams and glutes. Your knees are going to naturally want to cave in when you first learn to squat and once the weight gets heavy, you have to make yourself push them out as you come up.

Half reps, half results. 

 

[bigboss]

 
NT beasts..please, help....i cannot get past 5x5 175lb squat, and I am constantly second guessing my form.  The vid below is kind of old and its only 140lb - but am I doing everything correctly, as far as my path is concerned?  Also, is it weird that my squat and bench work weight are identical? 

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

 

What kind of shoes are you squatting in? Those look horrible for trying to squat in, they have too much cushion in them. I would just use some chucks or go barefoot. You need to try and sit back on your heels more and push through them, keep your chest up as well and pull the bar into your back like your trying to bend it. Take a deep breath through your belly before each rep so you stay tight.

Oh yeah and eat more if you want to get stronger.

 

[105950]

 
What kind of shoes are you squatting in? Those look horrible for trying to squat in, they have too much cushion in them. I would just use some chucks or go barefoot. You need to try and sit back on your heels more and push through them, keep your chest up as well and pull the bar into your back like your trying to bend it. Take a deep breath through your belly before each rep so you stay tight.

Oh yeah and eat more if you want to get stronger.

Thanks, I appreciate that.  As far as sitting back more, do I need to get my hips more involved?  The shoes are Reebok Nano's.