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i inclined benched 275 today the reason why this is good is because i have not done incline bench in forever

i do reverse grip incline bench

reason being its suppose to target upper chest by 30% more

since ive been doing this exercise (started in the summer) chest has def been fuller/ more pop too it.

i only to this exercise on smith machine also.....
Dudes sleep on reverse grip. I do incline on the smith too but I like it on the regular bench too for tris. I've never felt anything like it. Awkward at first though
 
it can be very awkward.......at first an i believe its safer to do on smith

im talking about for reverse grip only, i didnt do the 275 regular incline on smith
 
i've only gained strength on a caloric deficit when i first started lifting. nowadays my numbers take a big dive when i eat less and i notice my intensity and endurance takes a huge hit.
 
the progress doesn't go on forever. At some point it's very hard to add anything in strength or weight. There are genetic limits and the closer you are to them the harder it is to gain. if you can gain on a cut I'm jealous.
 
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the progress doesn't go on forever. At some point it's very hard to add anything in strength or weight. There are genetic limits and the closer you are to them the harder it is to gain. if you can gain on a cut I'm jealous.

Nobody really ever reaches their full genetic potential so getting "close" to them won't limit you because it won't happen.
 
But for real, you can be in a caloric deficit to lose body fat but still be consuming enough to support you workouts and experience training adaptations that lead to increased strength. You can get pretty damn strong without getting bigger.
 
Nobody really ever reaches their full genetic potential so getting "close" to them won't limit you because it won't happen.
I don't think its possible to even know what that limit is but it's definitely there. You gain so rapidly in the beginning that I'm sure gaining on a cut is possible.
 
Some of yall are confusing muscle and strength.
Exactly. I can squat 605 @ 320.

Dan Green can squat way more than that at 242.

As long as I don't do a drastic cut, I should at least maintain, possibly even gain some strength.

That being said if you're under 200 lbs then one of the best ways to gain strength is to get bigger.
 
 
Exactly. I can squat 605 @ 320.

Dan Green can squat way more than that at 242.

As long as I don't do a drastic cut, I should at least maintain, possibly even gain some strength.

That being said if you're under 200 lbs then one of the best ways to gain strength is to get bigger.
Comparing yourself to one of the top lifters in the world is not the best example though, he is also on other supplements that help as well. No one in here besides @****nut123 can squat over 6 and under 1% of the whole USA probably can't either so its not like your weak. You just weigh a lot and squat a lot lol

I agree 100% with your last statement though, no matter how much you weigh getting bigger will help you get stronger.
 
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Dan green uses tons of drugs just like everyone else at that level. he is smaller in terms of body weight but not in muscle mass.
 
I compare myself to the elite because I want to be elite someday. Is that so wrong? But no I think we all basically agree.
 
Man, you dudes that can squat 600 and up... I wonder how that must feel like to be that strong

I'll never know :frown:
 
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Man, you dudes that can squat 600 and up... I wonder how that must feel like to be that strong

I'll never know
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Just imagine something is really heavy, only it doesn't stop being heavy.
 
This is what I'm working with:

Monday - Overhead press, followed by assistance exercise: seated dumbbell overhead press, side-to-front lateral raises, reverse flys
Tuesday - off
Wednesday - Flatbench, flat dumbbell bench, dips, cable crossovers
Thursday - Deadlift, t-bar rows, dumbbell rows, lat pull-downs
Friday - off
Saturday - Incline bench, incline dumbell bench, dips, low cable crossovers, some tricep assistance exercises (tricep pushdowns, skull crushers)
Sunday - Squat, leg press, pull-ups, dumbbell rows

Diet wise:
Morning - smoothie consists of 2% milk, 1 avocado, 2 tbsp peanut butter, greek yogurt, 1 scoop of whey, and sometimes a boiled egg
Snack - 1 turkey breast, 1 stick of cheese, some almond nuts
Lunch - usually either chicken breast or salmon (some source of protein), some veggies, a little bit of white or brown rice on off days, more rice on lift days
Snack - 1 glass of milk, nuts, sometimes a protein bar
Dinner - some source of protein (chicken/meat/salmon) some veggies, a little bit of white or brown rice on off days, more rice on lift days
A couple of hours before bed - 1 glass 2% milk with some whey, 1 tbsp of peanut butter

I was 135lb in Feb and I'm sitting at 163lb here in Dec. I've seen gains throughout but I'm starting to stall on the bench. That's why I decided into have a second day in the week dedicated to bench just recently.


Also, eating ain't cheap :smh:

People have different things that work for them. I personally don't do body parts twice a week
but I do hit every body part once a week.

I feel like if you get your triceps exercises up that helps a lot too.

How much time do you have to work out ?
I Personally would just combine your chest day stuff (maybe just pick flat, incline, high cable crossovers, some dumbell incline flys)

replace that saturday with all arms. some abs.

Shoulder work do front raises and side lateral raises seperately.


I like to give my body that rest to rebuild. instead of beating it up twice. in the week (when I'm bulking and trying to get gains.)

It's been working for me. the 5/3/1 program this group put me on worked for me rather quickly also.
I would try that out for about a month.
 
Anyone ever have severe muscle spasms? I went to the doctor yesterday because I sustained a severe back spasm, from doing nothing at all. It just came on Thursday, I didn't even exercise. It was painful that I couldn't sleep. They gave me pain killer, and said it should go away within a week or so. It's tough...can't even brush my teeth with my right hand or get dressed without taking time and feeling pain :lol:

Not even sure when I'll be able to lift again :frown:

Feeling crappy right now, all I do is eat, and pop the pills that knock me out.
You live in a MMJ state? Cbd is your friend
 
Sounds like some EQ and anavar cocktail to me..

Ha

I have no idea what those things are :lol:

I didn't make amazing gains on my lifts, but somewhat. Before the cut I was weighing about 202 and benching 225 like 3 times, yeah I know :smh:

After I was getting it up 8 times weighing 192

DL was like 330 before and 370 after.

Nothing crazy but decent imo.
 
People have different things that work for them. I personally don't do body parts twice a week
but I do hit every body part once a week.

I feel like if you get your triceps exercises up that helps a lot too.

How much time do you have to work out ?
I Personally would just combine your chest day stuff (maybe just pick flat, incline, high cable crossovers, some dumbell incline flys)

replace that saturday with all arms. some abs.

Shoulder work do front raises and side lateral raises seperately.


I like to give my body that rest to rebuild. instead of beating it up twice. in the week (when I'm bulking and trying to get gains.)

It's been working for me. the 5/3/1 program this group put me on worked for me rather quickly also.
I would try that out for about a month.
I've been doing the 5/3/1 program for a few months, its just a basic strength routine. I've hovered around 180-190 over those months and all my lifts have continuously gone up. I'm 6'2'' so at that weight I am not a big guy at all but by march all my lifts should be well over 235 except military press which will be just over 135. Not enormous weight but I started off with very light weight and have made steady progress which has given me time to perfect my form and really isolate the muscle I'm trying to target. I much prefer the idea of focusing on strength rather then size however after I hit 235 on my bench I'm probably going to focus on the typical bodybuilding parameters to fix up my physique. Went on and on over nothing lol just the mention of 5/3/1 got me excited.
 
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