STAY/GET BACK IN SHAPE VOL 3.0 -- A New Niketalk = A New Thread

[hoosier bad boy 11]

How do you guys go about doing your reps on the bench press? Do you start with small weights and then move up in weight wtih less reps.

 

[picasso swerve]

How do you guys go about doing your reps on the bench press? Do you start with small weights and then move up in weight wtih less reps.

Well yeah, bench and every other exercise basically.

For example, ill do:

135x8
135x8
185x6
225x5
245x2
185xfailure


Something like that. 2 warm up sets then go in.

 

[hoosier bad boy 11]

How do you guys go about doing your reps on the bench press? Do you start with small weights and then move up in weight wtih less reps.

Well yeah, bench and every other exercise basically.

For example, ill do:

135x8
135x8
185x6
225x5
245x2
185xfailure


Something like that. 2 warm up sets then go in.

I have to get back in shape my shoulder surgery had me outta pocket for close to a year I'm so thin now.

 

[bigboss]

Actually interested in a discussion. Don't care about the opinions of the riff raff in this thread. There are a few people that opinions I value, even though the perspective may not be the same.

You value mine the most.

Luke, I am your father. 

 

[tdogg2k]

Xfit...without sounding like a complete a hole. Some people should lose weight first and learn control. Before going in and thinking all you do is lift it up and slam it on the ground.

And yes ive seen people doing deadlifts. Standing and dropping it from mid air. And doing that for 10 reps.
Im sorry ill never understand the point of dropping weights from mid air. On a deadlift.

 

[durden7]

We go through this every time.

Stupid people will do stupid stuff.

Critique crossfit if you want, but people doing things wrong isnt the fault of crossfit.

 

[panaricanretro]

I'll answer it tomorrow, how is it condescending. You don't know what you are talking about.

You have your craft, and formed your opinion on a handful of benchmark workouts.

If you misguided your clients who asked you for your opinion them that's some real life trolling. I'm just basing it off your words I quoted. You may know what you are doing and it seems like you are a successful PT. However your opinion on CF is biased and uninformed. You did it once again with your recent response. I'm on my cell so I'll explain tomorrow. Lol.

I still think you misunderstood my initial point. I've seen a fair share of people, usually after the fact, who tried crossfit to try to get "ripped" cause they thought that jumping into that level of intensity would get them there. All I was saying was that that approach was misguided. Same as when I get people who think going to yoga once a week is going to solve all of their mobility issues.

that handstand push-up is not even that bad. and speaking of xfit, we got 25# bumper plates at work so i was doing thrusters to warm up for heavy squats and i ripped my boxers. forgot my "squat undies" (briefs) at home and i guess the boxers were too tight

I've done this enough to the point I had to throw out all my regular boxers except for maybe one or two pairs. Like 90% of my underwear now is athletic boxer briefs.

 

[everysingletime]

^A lot of people just getting into crossfit, if they don't really have any decent background aren't going to be doing the workout as prescribed, anyway

For example, they might do hand release push-ups instead of handstand push-ups. Or kettlebell swings instead of cleans. If they do the prescribed movements it's well below the prescribed weight. Maybe 45-65 pounds instead of 135 pounds, for example.

Some people will still lift with bad technique, but they should improve over time before the weight starts getting heavy, if not, they're at the wrong crossfit gym - or they're completely ignoring their trainers.

Anyway, my point is that crossfit is a great way to train for beginners who want to get in shape that way. Scaling movements and scaling weights make it easy for beginners to jump in. I think that's why it's getting mainstream.

I think what's keeping it from getting even more mainstream, really, is the price for membership.

If the learning curve is as steep as you're indicating, it would be a niche thing at best.

 

[tdogg2k]

We go through this every time.

Stupid people will do stupid stuff.

Critique crossfit if you want, but people doing things wrong isnt the fault of crossfit.

I have no problem with cross fit movements.. just the fact like everything else in the world its a quick fad that everyone thinks they can do after watching a video or reading a fb post. I would just like to see them actually doing things the correct way. I would say only about 30% of the crossfitters in my gym are doing it right.

But as we've said before. Cant control people and what they do but ill still throw a side eye at people just throwing it up

 

[panaricanretro]

Wait, that dude was serious in that handstand video?

I honestly thought it was like satire.

Not too different from a push-press vs. a military press. His form actually looked pretty good. They do the kip handstand pushups to achieve high reps. Strict handstand pushups are not something too many people can do for really high volume. Same with pull-ups. They don't kip because they can't do a pull-up, it's cause in the workouts or in competition they're just trying to complete a lot of reps for time.

That said, I don't think kips should fill a strength gap. Like someone should be able to do strict pull-ups or handstand pushups before they try doing the Kipping versions. Dude in that vid looks like he could still do a fair amount of strict handstand pushups.

 

[jewbacca2]

currently waiting on a squat rack with the dude in a cage squatting 295... Coming about 6 inches from any chance of it counting as a real squat.

Jimmies rustled

 

[panaricanretro]

It's honestly no more/less dangerous than the way that handstand Pushup is set up even if it were strict. The risk isn't in the push, it's on the way down. Again, I think people who can do the movement strict but do it for higher reps with a kip are not really increasing their chance of injury. But if you can't do one strict handstand Pushup or you can barely grind out a rep with some twisting and whatnot then it's not safe.

Just think of someone doing a standing barbell press with like 135. If they can move it up from a racked position with good form for 5+ reps then they should be fine to use that weight or a little more on push presses. If they can't strict press it at all, they shouldn't try to push press it for reps. Heavy barbell dropping onto your head/neck is probably more dangerous than falling out of a handstand.

 

[SuperJ5]

^So do you have an issue with the push press or olympic lifting & their variations as well?

 

[boxer15]

Just finished beasting squats with 295lbs while some lame watched me while playing on his phone.

 

[SuperJ5]

Judging from your last statement it didn't seem like it.

It's biomechanically similar to a push press so I don't see where the issue would be with it if you're fine with that. Other than dealing with the blood flow increase to your head and distorted spatial awareness for a beginner can take some getting used to.

 

[rook]

Just finished beasting squats with 295lbs while some lame watched me while playing on his phone.

He was prolly snap chatting you

 

[jewbacca2]

Just finished beasting squats with 295lbs while some lame watched me while playing on his phone.

lolz

 

[boxer15]

You should've asked me to work in, bro. Next time just don't be intimidated by my crossfit shirt. I could've taught you all about quarter squats for explosive strength.

 

[SuperJ5]

Becuase I don't agree with something, doesn't mean I have a problem with it. A problem would involve some sort of emotion.

You're free to post your push-press vids to show us all how to properly do one, though.

Just don't know how you can agree with olympic lifting which some can argue is exploding in unnatural movements and not agree with a hspu with a kip which is just basically an inverted explosive movement. It's whatever though

I think there's one on my IG abt 20 or so weeks back. I need to step my push press game up though.

 

[imnacho]

How do you see the form? I'm 165 at 5'6 and DL is 300lb...

 

[SuperJ5]

Interested in the reasoning behind the opinion isn't worriying.

 

[hyper cutter]

Haha Peso Muerto

 

[aNYone]

How do you see the form? I'm 165 at 5'6 and DL is 300lb...

Isnt this like 345 or am i buggin

 

[bwood056]

How do you see the form? I'm 165 at 5'6 and DL is 300lb...

Bar should be up against your legs from the initial pull.

Drop your *** into a lower seated position prior to your pull.

Try to throw your hips as soon as the weight gets your knees.

Keep the weight as close to your body as possible - you should be ripping your legs from your pulls.



Edit: but, what do I know.

 

[jewbacca2]

How do you see the form? I'm 165 at 5'6 and DL is 300lb...

Hard view to really see much, but it looks fine.