Dressing Better Vol 2.0

MARZ said:
ALL Nikes suck for running. If you've been running in Nikes exclusively, then even a low end pair of Asics or Brooks will feel like clouds and rainbows on your feet. Function > than pretty looks. Btw, I have a pair of Flyknit free runs and I cringe at the thought of actually running in them.
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ALL? That's a strong opinion, but have you ran in ALL Nikes or any recent models? I used to be strictly an Asics person and completed my marathons and trained only in my Asics but I recently bought a pair of the newest Structures and they are comparable to my Asics or even better.

I'm saying that's just me, but in regards to running, I agree, function>looks any day but go get tested at a local store for your stride, pronation, gait, and all that good stuff. It'll really benefit you and you'll actually want to run once you get a pair that fit you spot on.
 
omgitswes said:
How are Flyknits for running outdoors? That's mainly what I bought them for. My free runs are beat to hell, still good enough for the gym but barely hanging on.

Wis all of those pickups are dope!
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Nikes suck for running. My Nikes didn't last a week in bootcamp before I had to to get some Navy issued NB. My local Lukes Locker carries Nike and when they describe the features of the Nikes it's always how great the look and not their performance.
 
sole searchin said:
ALL? That's a strong opinion, but have you ran in ALL Nikes or any recent models? I used to be strictly an Asics person and completed my marathons and trained only in my Asics but I recently bought a pair of the newest Structures and they are comparable to my Asics or even better.

I'm saying that's just me, but in regards to running, I agree, function>looks any day but go get tested at a local store for your stride, pronation, gait, and all that good stuff. It'll really benefit you and you'll actually want to run once you get a pair that fit you spot on.
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I was a sales associate then an assistant manager at Foot Locker during college. We're talking years at that company.

I believe I have a firm grasp about what I'm talking about through experience.

Nike is able to come out with all these ground breaking designs at the cost of actual function. Asics, Brooks & Mizuno have the ugliest designs because they primarily focus on function and what's inside of the shoe rather than the outer appearance. I've dealt with enough Ekins and other brand reps to know what each company's mission is.

Nike knows exactly who their audience is. It's not actual runners.

If you've had a good experience with Nike runners then more power to you. But I assure you, that's not the norm.
 
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MARZ said:
sole searchin said:
ALL? That's a strong opinion, but have you ran in ALL Nikes or any recent models? I used to be strictly an Asics person and completed my marathons and trained only in my Asics but I recently bought a pair of the newest Structures and they are comparable to my Asics or even better.


I'm saying that's just me, but in regards to running, I agree, function>looks any day but go get tested at a local store for your stride, pronation, gait, and all that good stuff. It'll really benefit you and you'll actually want to run once you get a pair that fit you spot on.
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I was a sales associate then an assistant manager at Foot Locker during college. We're talking years at that company.

I believe I have a firm grasp about what I'm talking about through experience.

Nike is able to come out with all these ground breaking designs at the cost of actual function. Asics, Brooks & Mizuno have the ugliest designs because they primarily focus on function and what's inside of the shoe rather than the outer appearance. I've dealt with enough Ekins and other brand reps to know what each company's mission is.

Nike knows exactly who their audience is. It's not actual runners.

If you've had a good experience with Nike runners then more power to you. But I assure you, that's not the norm.
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This is truth right here. Also coming from someone who had years in the footwear industry.
 
MARZ said:
sole searchin said:
ALL? That's a strong opinion, but have you ran in ALL Nikes or any recent models? I used to be strictly an Asics person and completed my marathons and trained only in my Asics but I recently bought a pair of the newest Structures and they are comparable to my Asics or even better.


I'm saying that's just me, but in regards to running, I agree, function>looks any day but go get tested at a local store for your stride, pronation, gait, and all that good stuff. It'll really benefit you and you'll actually want to run once you get a pair that fit you spot on.
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I was a sales associate then an assistant manager at Foot Locker during college. We're talking years at that company.

I believe I have a firm grasp about what I'm talking about through experience.

Nike is able to come out with all these ground breaking designs at the cost of actual function. Asics, Brooks & Mizuno have the ugliest designs because they primarily focus on function and what's inside of the shoe rather than the outer appearance. I've dealt with enough Ekins and other brand reps to know what each company's mission is.

Nike knows exactly who their audience is. It's not actual runners.

If you've had a good experience with Nike runners then more power to you. But I assure you, that's not the norm.
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This all of this.. Go to a running specialty store and find out which shoes are best for you..


Whether you under or over pronate.. If you're flat footed or what


Get nikes for causal wear.. But if you're actually planning on running in the tennis go with what was stated above
 
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WorldGoneMad said:
Thinking about buying some used AE on ebay... yay or nay?

I need some dress shoes asap and I just dont have the $ to be dropping $200 +

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Allen-Edmonds-Black-Leather-Cap-Toe-Oxford-Mens-Shoes-Size-8D-/161207263457?pt=US_Men_s_Shoes&hash=item2588b3a0e1


these specifically... any thoughts?
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Email shoebank@allenedmonds.com and see what they have in your size/width on their seconds list (outlet)
For like $150 you will end up with a new pair and a better model. I would 100% stay clear of those ^
 
MARZ said:
Asics, Brooks & Mizuno have the ugliest designs because they primarily focus on function and what's inside of the shoe rather than the outer appearance. I've dealt with enough Ekins and other brand reps to know what each company's mission is.
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This is the biggest BS ever. They can make a simple, plain upper for running without all the lines and fuzz and all the other crap they put on the shoe and it'll look good. Actually, if they get rid of the giant ASIC logo on the side of every shoes they make, they'd look decent and likely make the shoe even lighter.

There is no excuse for ugly design, it's almost like they are trying to make the shoe ugly on purpose.


And lately, Nike has been getting better and better. It isn't going trump a shoe company that focuses on simply running shoes but I would put the recent Pegasus over any neutral shoes Asics, Brooks, etc... has to offer today and I'd bet they'd be right there going toe-to-toe with them.
 
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RFX45 said:
This is the biggest BS ever. They can make a simple, plain upper for running without all the lines and fuzz and all the other crap they put on the shoe and it'll look good. Actually, if they get rid of the giant ASIC logo on the side of every shoes they make, they'd look decent and likely make the shoe even lighter.

There is no excuse for ugly design, it's almost like they are trying to make the shoe ugly on purpose.
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If you have any understanding of business, you'd know how important that logo is to them regardless of how ugly and gaudy it is.

You should actually examine a pair of Asics instead of dismissing the design because of your preconceived opinion on its appearance. You'll notice that the their design has an actual function instead of fulfilling a Hypebeast's desire for fashionz. Example, those lines are placed strategically for support.

Anyways, design is subjective. You and I may find the sneakers disgusting in appearance but someone else may not. To each his own.

Regardless, it still stands that Nike makes subpar runners. But I suppose you'll enjoy those shin splints while looking good
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I do have understanding of business and I do know the importance of a logo but that is not what we are talking about. Nike can get away with a small swoosh in the back or on the side and Asics can't?

You talk about it's function over design yet they put their logo on the side to advertise their shoe? If they are so confident in their tech, let that do the talking.

I have examined Asics up-close and the logo being suppor tis total BS.

How the hell does the Asics logo on this shoe provide support? It is not even remotely connected to anything for support and that material ont he logo will likely tear by itself. You're telling me they can't hide the support inside where it isn't visible and then place a smaller logo somewhere else on the shoe? Nike manages to hide their flywire after they've showed it off the first few seasons. Asics can't do it in their what, decades of running shoe history? And you're telling me that "logo support" can't be structured to look better w/o affecting it's function? Really? I highly doubt that.
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Flyknit Lunars are the only nikes I run in. Never going back to ugly @#$ Asics though, no matter how majestic their owners say they are. I run 3 miles a few times a week, and for that purpose what I have is good enough. My time and how I felt after the run were exactly the same after I made the switch
 
RFX45 said:
I do have understanding of business and I do know the importance of a logo but that is not what we are talking about. Nike can get away with a small swoosh in the back or on the side and Asics can't?

You talk about it's function over design yet they put their logo on the side to advertise their shoe? If they are so confident in their tech, let that do the talking.

I have examined Asics up-close and the logo being suppor tis total BS.

How the hell does the Asics logo on this shoe provide support? It is not even remotely connected to anything for support and that material ont he logo will likely tear by itself. You're telling me they can't hide the support inside where it isn't visible and then place a smaller logo somewhere else on the shoe? Nike manages to hide their flywire after they've showed it off the first few seasons. Asics can't do it in their what, decades of running shoe history? And you're telling me that "logo support" can't be structured to look better w/o affecting it's function? Really? I highly doubt that.
 
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I'm not getting into a pissing match with you.

Here's Asics' support # (855) 233-3120

I'm sure they'll be glad to tell you everything you don't want to hear.

I know what I'm talking about and I'll leave it at that. If you need to feel good about spending $175 on a crap running shoe, then be my guest and keep arguing your point about looking fresh while running.

I'm done.
 
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No one is arguing about their function and I admitted Nike can't beat them when it comes to running shoes but stop making damn excuses for ugly designs.

Good for you that you feel you know what you are talking about, but you aren't the only one here who knows about shoes. Great that you used to be a shoe store assistant manager, with all the training you go through right? I'm sure no one here has gone to a shoe store and knew more about shoes than the managers, but hey I'll give you a cookie later, that isn't the end all be all of the discussion though.

And I don't have to feel good about my Nike shoes, I am very happy to wear them, I could care less about Asics functions because I am not a professional runner. I run in Nikes and feel no pain = I am happy. I ran and didn't have the urge to throw up every time I look in my feet. And trust me, if I run in Nikes and it hurts any part of my body, I would stop buying Nikes, this isn't some "I look good while I'm running so I don't care if my knees are wrecked at age 40". Why can't we have both? I am not the only one vouching for Nike running shoes obviously, not everyone here runs a marathon and hell go to the running thread and you'll see plenty of happy Nike users but that's null because obviously all those guys who runs marathons on a monthly basis with Nikes are just in it for the looks, right?

You just sound close-minded, at least I admit Nike used to suck in the category but you can't even admit they have gotten better. Have you even ran in recent Nike shoes? Because I have ran in almost all the Nike running shoes and not all are good but some are very good. I've owned NBs before and really not much difference on my end. Tried on Asics and Brooks too, they were ok. Yeah I've been to Fleet Feet who lets you walk/run in the shoes outside to see how you feel about the shoes, I found Nike to be of equivalent to be honest, again not a pro or marathon runner. But I guess my own experience is null.

Also, the dude clearly asked about running in Nikes and you had to chime in with another brand. From what I remember, he didn't ask what other shoe is suggested but hey you'll come back with "i'm just trying to help" bit and that's nice of you but stop making excuses for the brands ugly designs.



Here's Asics' support # (855) 233-3120

I'm sure they'll be glad to tell you everything you don't want to hear.
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And hey, you want me to give you Nikes support # as well so you can hear the things you don't want to hear? Because I am sure they will also tell you the function of all their tech and how great they are if you call their hotline.
 
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Do ya'll rock nikes for bball? I mean, i always thought nike made quality products aside from hypebeast shoes aka Jays and limited AM type joints..

like if you wanna ball, do you bust out some brooks joints on the ball court?
 
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To be fair, Nike bball shoe is their strong suit, not running shoes (again though, theyve made strides in the past few years). Flyknits and flywire is a huge leap in making shoes lighter.

Also not a good comparison as I do not think Brooks or Asics makes bball shoes, they are strictly running shoes and they excel at it.

Same way Nike isn't the number one choice for soccer cleats, I think Puma and Adidas got them beat, not sure who for sure but Nike isn't the top echelon in that sport.
 
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I've been running in my retro neon air max 95's for the past few years. Been too lazy to make it over to a running specialty store and have them analyze my running. The forefoot cushioning is good for my under pronation. People in the nike section thought I was crazy.

So you really can't generalize and say nike sucks for running because they make specific models and cushioning for all types of runners like other companies do.
 
Also, I really like Nikes versatility, the free sole works well for me because I do running and then followed by HIIT or plyo. I can't do that with the Pegasus or Lunarglides but the Trainer 3.0/5.0 and Free Runs are about perfect for both workouts. It is also low enough for lifting though it could be better.
 
I stay seeing ppl in my neighborhood running wearing the high performance runners(asics , new balance etc).

Although I like nike frees I completely understand what some mean. Some only care how it feels when running and could care less about the design as long as it does the job.
 
RFX45 said:
And hey, you want me to give you Nikes support # as well so you can hear the things you don't want to hear? Because I am sure they will also tell you the function of all their tech and how great they are if you call their hotline.
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You're the one asking me all the technical questions, not the other way around. Therefore, you got their support #. I have no stock in Asics or any other shoe brand. I'm not going to break out a ruler and protractor just to keep an argument going with you. If you want technical answers, call their number.

Everything else you wrote was blah, blah, blah. 

Fanboys are gonna fanboy but don't make me out to be a bad guy when all I did was tell him my opinion. Don't act like I'm the only person in the history of DB to give a suggestion outside of the original stated. I know about runners so I offered my opinion.

Edit* Took the last sentence out because I realized it was unnecessary. I've obviously unintentionally rustled jimmys in here so I'll retire for the night so to keep the thread from derailing any further. RFX, if it makes you feel any better, you can print my name out in a camo font and throw darts at it.
 
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SN Souljah said:
Do ya'll rock nikes for bball? I mean, i always thought nike made quality products aside from hypebeast shoes aka Jays and limited AM type joints..

like if you wanna ball, do you bust out some brooks joints on the ball court?
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 Nike makes the best basketball shoes IMO. Nike is what I'd go with in this case. Just not for running. Every brand has a lane.
 
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