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This is a sigh of relief:
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The NFLPA will not demand a formal investigation of the Washington Redskins' handling of the knee injury suffered by quarterback Robert Griffin III as allowed under the sport's collective bargaining agreement.

On Tuesday, the NFLPA made an informal inquiry to the Redskins and their medical staff in response to discrepancies in the reports about the team's treatment of Griffin's injury.

NFLPA Executive Director DeMaurice Smith said: "Playing through pain is a harsh reality of our business and our union will always hold the League and the clubs accountable to the best medical care. Our thoughts are with Robert as he recovers from his surgery and we hope he returns to full strength."

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/8835662/nflpa-not-demand-investigation-injury-suffered-robert-griffin-iii-washington-redskins
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Anyone else listen to WPGC 95.5? They've changed their flagship name to WRG3 for right now laugh.gif sounds funny when they say it.
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From rotowolrd
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A league source tells Profootballtalk.com that there is "much greater concern" about Robert Griffin III's reconstructed right knee than Griffin or "anyone connected to the Redskins" has let on.
Griffin will end up rehabbing both knees because surgeons were forced to use a patellar tendon graft from his left knee in order to fix his right. He tore the ACL, LCL, and partially tore his meniscus in the right knee. Per PFT's source, the "biggest concern" is with Griffin's knee cartilage. Due to two knee constructions and ultimately three surgeries since 2009 at Baylor, there is concern "about how much (cartilage) remains and how long it will last" in Griffin's knee(s). A potential end result could be a bone-on-bone condition, which can lead to microfracture surgery and/or shorten a football player's career. Jan 12 - 2:30 PM

This whole situation seems like it is being swept under the rug. This was a major reconstruction surgery. The redskins are acting like it is no big deal. Knee surgery....he will be back to start 2013. Even if that is the case why aren't we getting this type of information from reputable outlets. Why do we need to hear it from "sources close to the situation". Just seems fishy. But i hope he is ok, I hope he bounces back in 2013 and i hope it doesn't effect his long term career.
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This whole situation seems like it is being swept under the rug. This was a major reconstruction surgery. The redskins are acting like it is no big deal. Knee surgery....he will be back to start 2013. Even if that is the case why aren't we getting this type of information from reputable outlets. Why do we need to hear it from "sources close to the situation". Just seems fishy. But i hope he is ok, I hope he bounces back in 2013 and i hope it doesn't effect his long term career.

The PFT article is crap.

You're right...it is a MAJOR reconstruction surgery. Is it breaking news that there is cause for concern from the Redskins brass? That's OBVIOUS. PFT wanted page hits with this article.
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PRESS RELEASE

For Immediate Release
January 14, 2013

ROBERT GRIFFIN III NAMED PRO FOOTBALL WEEKLY/PFWA
ROOKIE OF THE YEAR

LOUDOUN COUNTY, Va. – Pro Football Weekly, along with the Pro Football Writers of America, announced that Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III has been named their overall Rookie of the Year and Offensive Rookie of the Year.

Griffin III, 22, finished the season having completed 258-of-393 passes (65.6 percent) for 3,200 passing yards, 20 touchdowns, only five interceptions and a passer rating of 102.4, all team rookie records. In addition, he rushed 120 times for 815 yards with seven rushing touchdowns in 2012, all three of which are team records for a quarterback. His 102.4 passer rating, 1.3 interception rate and 815 rushing yards are all NFL records for rookie quarterbacks. Griffin III also led the NFL in yards per pass attempt (8.14), yards per rush attempt (6.glasses.gif and least interceptions thrown among players with 300-plus pass attempts (5).

Griffin III began and finished his rookie campaign making history. With a season-opening win against the New Orleans Saints, he became the first player born in the 1990s to start at quarterback in NFL history. In the victory he completed 19-of-26 passes for 320 yards and two touchdowns and finished with a passer rating of 139.9, becoming the first player in NFL history to compile 300-plus passing yards, two or more passing touchdowns and no interceptions in an NFL debut. Griffin III finished the regular season helping the Redskins defeat the Dallas Cowboys in Week 17 to win their first NFC Championship since 1999. He surpassed 800 yards rushing for the season in the game, becoming the first rookie quarterback with 800-plus yards on the ground and 3,000-plus passing yards in a season. Griffin III also earned his first career Pro Bowl selection, becoming the first Redskins offensive rookie to earn a selection since Larry Brown in 1969.

Griffin III is the first member of the Redskins to be named Pro Football Weekly/PFWA Offensive Rookie of the Year since Mike Thomas received the


The big willie is the AP OROY...but this is still a good look.
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Robert Griffin III of the Washington Redskins has won The Associated Press 2012 NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year award, beating out two other sensational first-year quarterbacks.

Griffin, whose thrill-a-minute combination of running and passing skills led Washington to its first NFC East title in 13 years, pulled away from Andrew Luck of the Colts and Russell Wilson of the Seahawks in a lopsided vote announced Saturday.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8908775/nfl-awards-2012-13-robert-griffin-iii-named-offensive-rookie-year

& from rotoworld
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Robert Griffin III: RGIII: No doubt in my mind I'll be ready Wk 1
Robert Griffin III - QB - WAS - Feb. 2 - 6:28 pm et

Robert Griffin III (ACL, LCL surgery) says "no doubt" he'll be ready for Week 1.
Griffin says his knee feels good, and he's been walking without crutches for more than a week. Those that have seen him down in New Orleans for the Super Bowl say that RGIII is also walking without a limp. Owner Dan Snyder said RGIII's recovery has been "very impressive." With the Redskins getting daily updates from Griffin, we should be able to track his recovery rather closely throughout the spring and summer. Feb. 2 - 6:28 pm et
Source: Rich Campbell on Twitter

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NFL&id=7406&line=255055&spln=1

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pimp.gif good news
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Congrats to RGIII on winning Rookie or the Year, well deserved.

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Happy 23rd Birthday to the savior of the franchise, RGIII. pimp.gif here's hoping it'll be the best year of his life.
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Redskins officials already are encouraged enough with @RGIII's recovery to believe he has a legitimate chance to start on opening day.

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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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If there is one athlete I believe in, it's RGIII. I'm definitely all in for week 1.
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Redskins considering nuclear option to restore cap space
Posted by Mike Florio on February 25, 2013, 4:35 PM EST

Last year, the NFL stripped $36 million in cap space from the Redskins, who along with the Cowboys apparently took the term “uncapped year” too literally in 2010.

In response, the Redskins employed half-measures to recover the cap dollars, filing a grievance under the labor deal that did nothing other than stir up a cockeyed collusion claim from the NFLPA.

This year, with half of the penalty due to hit the 2013 salary cap, the Redskins could be opting for a more complete assault on the league’s position. Or at least threatening it.

According to Mark Maske and Mike Jones of the Washington Post, the Redskins are spreading the word in Indianapolis that they’re considering legal action aimed at delaying the start of free agency while litigation proceeds regarding the question of whether the Redskins’ legal rights were violated. The Redskins are telling agents that any contract talks will be delayed until the situation is resolved.

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Nice article DoubleJ's.  I wish your owner had the same fervor in trying to please his fans and product as he does when going after his "enemies" and opponents. 

 

Since the Saints and the players won their case against Goodell I'm guessing the Skins smell blood in the water and want to go after the NFL while the getting is good.    

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Nice article DoubleJ's.  I wish your owner had the same fervor in trying to please his fans and product as he does when going after his "enemies" and opponents. 

Since the Saints and the players won their case against Goodell I'm guessing the Skins smell blood in the water and want to go after the NFL while the getting is good.    

Skins got a case here....

As an OWNER, I have no issue with how Dan Snyder has been doing things for the past couple of years. He's stayed in the background.
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Nice article DoubleJ's.  I wish your owner had the same fervor in trying to please his fans and product as he does when going after his "enemies" and opponents. 

Since the Saints and the players won their case against Goodell I'm guessing the Skins smell blood in the water and want to go after the NFL while the getting is good.    

Skins got a case here....

As an OWNER, I have no issue with how Dan Snyder has been doing things for the past couple of years. He's stayed in the background.

 

I agree that the Skins have a case here and given what I have read and what has been presented thus far I actually side with the Skins on this one.

 

As far as the owner goes, yeah he's stayed in the background in regards to football transactions on the field.  However, there's certainly alot more he could be doing from my perspective to help please the fans, stadium upgrades, bring back the shuttle service, and things of that nature.  That is what I meant by fervor for the fans.

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"TKextremeskins: Hall not coming back. Skins looking to go younger & cheaper"
--http://twitter.com/TKextremeskins/status/311097208118341632

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Rumor has it that Carriker/Moss are gonna be cut

In addition to D.Hall, they'd be saving over 16 mil in salary.
Edited by JJs07 - 3/11/13 at 7:58am
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Redskins have released DeAngelo Hall, source says.
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Dang, it's been real D. Hall.
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See ya D.Hall, not really gonna miss him. Thanks though for that scoop and score against the Cowboys in the 2010 opener, that was dope.
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Hall wasn't the greatest but I think the rest of our secondary/terrible safety play made him look even worse to the untrained eye. Towards the latter part of last season he was a big reason why our defense improved.

I try not to think it's because I'm biased, but I still can't fathom how they let them get away with hitting us with that cap penalty. Would have been unfair enough if they gave us fair warning; but to do it the night before free agency? When you already have your plan of attack and should have franchised/tendered guys? To me that REEKS of something shady. It would be like telling a team 30 minutes before the draft they're actually picking 15th instead of 1st; I'm sure it was a mad scramble.

Aside from that, several other teams used the same strategy of renegotiating contracts to take bigger hits during that year; and only the Skins and Boys (two teams in Mara's division) get punished? It wasn't like we used the uncapped year to go out and sign a bunch of guys to F up the competitive balance; we just renegotiated two guys who were already on our roster. If the whole goal of it was to make sure teams didn't go over the cap, or get extra cap space, why weren't the Bucs punished for going WELL below the salary cap floor during the uncapped year and opening up a boatload of cap space? Doesn't that mess up the competitive balance by them pretty much tanking, and opening up a ton of space for the next season to sign FA's?
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Hall wasn't the greatest but I think the rest of our secondary/terrible safety play made him look even worse to the untrained eye. Towards the latter part of last season he was a big reason why our defense improved.

I try not to think it's because I'm biased, but I still can't fathom how they let them get away with hitting us with that cap penalty. Would have been unfair enough if they gave us fair warning; but to do it the night before free agency? When you already have your plan of attack and should have franchised/tendered guys? To me that REEKS of something shady. It would be like telling a team 30 minutes before the draft they're actually picking 15th instead of 1st; I'm sure it was a mad scramble.

Aside from that, several other teams used the same strategy of renegotiating contracts to take bigger hits during that year; and only the Skins and Boys (two teams in Mara's division) get punished? It wasn't like we used the uncapped year to go out and sign a bunch of guys to F up the competitive balance; we just renegotiated two guys who were already on our roster. If the whole goal of it was to make sure teams didn't go over the cap, or get extra cap space, why weren't the Bucs punished for going WELL below the salary cap floor during the uncapped year and opening up a boatload of cap space? Doesn't that mess up the competitive balance by them pretty much tanking, and opening up a ton of space for the next season to sign FA's?

I'm kinda ambivalent towards D.Hall. I think we can definitely upgrade, but he was actually pretty good last year. Sports Bog had a good piece on him here:

The Good/Bad of Deangelo Hall

As far as the cap penalties, I'm with you. The whole thing makes NO sense. Obvious collusion and the Skins/Cowboys did nothing wrong, yet they're the ones being punished. No matter....joint is gonna be a wrap next year when the Redskins can actually spend money via FA. We'll be a ridiculously dangerous team going forward.
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Apparently Hall was willing to restructure his deal due to the cap hit, but the Skins still decided to cut him anyway.  I guess his services to the Skins were no longer needed.  To me, he wasn't even that bad this year, he was decent for the most part. 

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Apparently Hall was willing to restructure his deal due to the cap hit, but the Skins still decided to cut him anyway.  I guess his services to the Skins were no longer needed.  To me, he wasn't even that bad this year, he was decent for the most part. 

He was really good this year. It's just the money he made and his short temper that drew the ire of many. I mean, the skins saved 8 mil against the cap for making the move. To me, it was a no-brainer. I think they can find an adequate replacement at a fraction of the cost.
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Apparently Hall was willing to restructure his deal due to the cap hit, but the Skins still decided to cut him anyway.  I guess his services to the Skins were no longer needed.  To me, he wasn't even that bad this year, he was decent for the most part. 

He was really good this year. It's just the money he made and his short temper that drew the ire of many. I mean, the skins saved 8 mil against the cap for making the move. To me, it was a no-brainer. I think they can find an adequate replacement at a fraction of the cost.

 

No doubt, the Skins save money in cap space, but if Hall was willing to restructure his contract maybe something could have been worked out.  Maybe it was his on the field short temper that eventually got his pushed out of the door, and that's on Hall. 

 

What's the status on London Fletcher, are the plans to have him starting this year??

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No doubt, the Skins save money in cap space, but if Hall was willing to restructure his contract maybe something could have been worked out.  Maybe it was his on the field short temper that eventually got his pushed out of the door, and that's on Hall. 

What's the status on London Fletcher, are the plans to have him starting this year??

Good question about LF...he had surgery last week (on his ankle, I think)....there are rumors that he's going to retire. I'd have to think that he's going to be back, but this will be his last year with the team.
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Hopefully D. Hall goes to a team that plays the Cowboys so he and Dez can finish their slap boxing matches.


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Good question about LF...he had surgery last week (on his ankle, I think)....there are rumors that he's going to retire. I'd have to think that he's going to be back, but this will be his last year with the team.

 

Thanks for the info on LF, heard he was having surgery but didn't know the reasoning.  This is most definitely his last year though, hope he has a good year.  Also, according to something I read in the Express today, it alluded to the Skins as of now not going forward with a case against the NFL for the cap penalty.  That could change of course, but I remember the article you posted a few days ago talking about the Skins trying to get an appeal.  The cap penalty is 2 years, so after this year there should be no consequences against the Skins.  Since the Saints players won their case, I think the Skins should move forward and try to win since Gooddell appears to be on the ropes and not in good standing in that regard.

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Just giving you some inside skinny as I've texted a few players..


Skins were going to do what was needed to keep Moss.  Moss is one of RGIIIs fav guys on and off the field.  They were going to keep Robert Happy doing whatever it took.

Zo will be sending where he is going later today so we can retweet it.

Kedrick Gholston (no not on peoples radar but my boy) isnt settled on a contract as of yet... but the upside was he's not expensive.

We will all be in the upcoming Pro's vs Joes in Ashburn against the Skins in June.. Doing the Big Train Charity Softball Game in April...

 

and right now from texting with Mike Jones... the Skins are in such a bad position it's going to be difficult to talk undrafted free agents into coming to their camp.

They got 800K of money from the league back last night.

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Thanks for the info on LF, heard he was having surgery but didn't know the reasoning.  This is most definitely his last year though, hope he has a good year.  Also, according to something I read in the Express today, it alluded to the Skins as of now not going forward with a case against the NFL for the cap penalty.  That could change of course, but I remember the article you posted a few days ago talking about the Skins trying to get an appeal.  The cap penalty is 2 years, so after this year there should be no consequences against the Skins.  Since the Saints players won their case, I think the Skins should move forward and try to win since Gooddell appears to be on the ropes and not in good standing in that regard.

Yea...after this year, there is no penalty.

As much as Dan Snyder cares about $ and screwing people over, I just don't think we've heard the end of of this whole cap fiasco. Something will happen...I'm pretty sure of it. Whether they get some money back or not, who knows....but I just can't shake the thought of the Skins lying down on this one here.
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