Mangini drafted Revis and that offensive line. An offensive line that has zero work ethic right now.
In fact, Mangini drafted the majority of the team that we went to those two AFCchampionships with. Almost all of whom Rex shipped out.
Who exactly has Rex drafted that's wowed anyone? Wilkerson and Coples? And then...? Mark Sanchez, Kyle Wilson, Stephen Hill, Vladimir Ducasse? LULZ.
What impressive free agent moves did the Rex/Tanny regime make? Holmes, Jenkins, Tomlinson (cool) Bart Scott, Clyde Gates, Chaz Schillens...? Lulz.
They can't draft. They have a ton of awful contracts. I don't trust them to trade Revis and come out with anything we'll look back at two years later as value.
Greene was the better pick coming out of college for what The Jets wanted to do. They wanted to ground and pound and wear teams down and they thought Sanchez was a better passing threat than Freeman.
I'll admit no one could have predicted how bad Mark would be. I don't think Greene is a feature back, but remember how well he played as the change of pace to Thomas Jones? I get that a lot of that was because he WAS the number two and didn't have to do too much so we saw the small bursts as bigger signs than they were but i think the jets need another legit running back back there. Powell is not it.
Sanchez played better in the past when he didnt have to do too much, he could roll out and throw on the run, he had more than just one receiving option, and the play action pass was a legitimate threat. Last year they got away from the play calling that helped him. They'd call a couple of plays that got him on the move, then they'd yank him for tebow. Or they'd just have him drop back on these slow developing plays (no idea why when none of our receivers could get open, or if they ever managed to, catch anyway) and he'd get swarmed, panic, and go full retard.
At this point I don't know what they can do to help him. Holmes coming back and another RB would be nice. Truth be told I don't even know that they need to draft an O-lineman. They have the personnel, Mangold, Brick, Moore, and Slauson need to just stop playing like pussies.
And for goodness sake draft a legit WR who can catch! I don't care if it's in the 4th round.
Greene was the better pick coming out of college for what The Jets wanted to do. They wanted to ground and pound and wear teams down and they thought Sanchez was a better passing threat than Freeman.
I'll admit no one could have predicted how bad Mark would be. I don't think Greene is a feature back, but remember how well he played as the change of pace to Thomas Jones? I get that a lot of that was because he WAS the number two and didn't have to do too much so we saw the small bursts as bigger signs than they were but i think the jets need another legit running back back there. Powell is not it.
Sanchez played better in the past when he didnt have to do too much, he could roll out and throw on the run, he had more than just one receiving option, and the play action pass was a legitimate threat. Last year they got away from the play calling that helped him. They'd call a couple of plays that got him on the move, then they'd yank him for tebow. Or they'd just have him drop back on these slow developing plays (no idea why when none of our receivers could get open, or if they ever managed to, catch anyway) and he'd get swarmed, panic, and go full retard.
At this point I don't know what they can do to help him. Holmes coming back and another RB would be nice. Truth be told I don't even know that they need to draft an O-lineman. They have the personnel, Mangold, Brick, Moore, and Slauson need to just stop playing like pussies.
And for goodness sake draft a legit WR who can catch! I don't care if it's in the 4th round.
agreed. Shonn Greene's playing style is a strictly between tackles and to wear the team down. The perfect 2nd back. You'll see him kick it out to the outside every once in a while but frankly, that isn't his playing style. The perfect example was the playoffs in 2010. Wearing out the Bengals and of course the Chargers.
And when you have guys in the defense telling reports that the head office haven't done much to help Sanchez and the offense... that's saying something.
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oh thank goodness. i was bout to bust a blood vessell
agreed. We're pretty much in the same boat when it comes to my last few posts.
This draft is REALLY important, and it's imperative to get some key pieces who can produce right away and the proper depth players who will stick with the team for a long time. That's why the Revis trade is a possibility.
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Stat I just read:
Alex Smith is 2 wins and 25 losses in games where San Francisco's defense allows 24 points.
Keep him the hell away from NY.
Stat I just read:
Alex Smith is 2 wins and 25 losses in games where San Francisco's defense allows 24 points.
Keep him the hell away from NY.
Look, Alex is a great game manager. I'd take him to challenge Mark or start ANY DAY! Stop letting stats be the end all be all to fixing our team, because looking at our cap situation and our roster, we need to exhaust all possibilities.
Stat I just read:
Alex Smith is 2 wins and 25 losses in games where San Francisco's defense allows 24 points.
Keep him the hell away from NY.
Look, Alex is a great game manager. I'd take him to challenge Mark or start ANY DAY! Stop letting stats be the end all be all to fixing our team, because looking at our cap situation and our roster, we need to exhaust all possibilities.
30 touchdowns and 10 interceptions in his last 26 starts.
GREAT stat. Great game manager. Protects the ball.
But then you realize that's about 1 touchdown every game, and that's probably why he never overcomes 24 points. I'm starting to think he was more a product of the 49ers defense and Gore's running. He won't turn the ball over like Sanchez but what really makes him that great an upgrade?
30 touchdowns and 10 interceptions in his last 26 starts.
GREAT stat. Great game manager. Protects the ball.
But then you realize that's about 1 touchdown every game, and that's probably why he never overcomes 24 points. I'm starting to think he was more a product of the 49ers defense and Gore's running. He won't turn the ball over like Sanchez but what really makes him that great an upgrade?
For THAT reason alone we should go after him. He'll be in our price range. We don't have enough cap to go after some big name or high priced guy. This season turnovers killed us more than anything. We could have won a couple more games had we not had as many turnovers as we did.
oline talent there. its about consistency and good play. receiver is the #1 concern on offense, but how often are rookie receivers producers the first year or 2? there's a rough road ahead.
Knew right away that signing free agent's wasn't they key in the FA period but restructuring contracts were.
Pouha was next up. It's unfortunate because he was a locker room presence. So was DeVito. Our team needs guys like him. Especially when our team ain't winning, we need guys like that to take leadership roles. That back didn't heal properly throughout the season and with his age and contract, it was the proper recipe for a cut.
So I expected this thread to be pretty quiet. Don't expect any big name signings even with some restructuring - Holmes' and Cromartie's (although Cromartie's may bite us in the *** next year.)
Look for role players - Mike Goodson as an RB, Victor Butler at OLB, Gibson at WR. Small signings like that.
This may be the most important draft for us in a while. This draft will indicate how long our "rebuilding" process can potentially be. Last year's group was just okay. Coples can be a dominant force but after that, there are a lot of question marks. Stephen Hill has all the athletic ability in the world but can he produce? Or will he be slotted as the next WR who will never reach his potential? Time will tell and of course it's too early to presume that. Can Demario Davis be the next MLB for us? The speed is there and apparently he has the character to be the next leader for our defensive corps, but can he produce? Bush and Allen are question marks at safety. and the next batch of draft picks didn't even see the field and got the pink slip instead.
Idzik has to produce with these upcoming picks.
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... From the City of Toronto.
formerly known as Copp 2 of Em
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