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he right though, no ones forcing you to take that job. It really ain't that hard, work smarter not harderTipping etiquette when you're being treated
he right though, no ones forcing you to take that job. It really ain't that hard, work smarter not harder
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So if you leave less than a $200 tip at a "nice restaurant" you're poor? Naw b. ima get my "No Tippin' Pippen" on when I go to a "nice" restaurant.
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An NTer that I seriously cant stand based off of this very argument. Datznazty.
The system is broken but I DARE you to open a restaurant and pay your servers an hourly wage that will make you're staff competitive and still have your doors open 3 months later.
It's not gonna happen, especially when you're charging out the *** for that chicken parm to cover your cost of paying said servers.
The system is broken but I DARE you to open a restaurant and pay your servers an hourly wage that will make you're staff competitive and still have your doors open 3 months later.
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It isn't a goal of mine but if it was I would just pay them 2 dollars an hour and defer that cost to the consumers and guilt them into covering it. Maybe I tell my waitresses to make sure to mention how they're paying their way through med school and the transmission is shot on their Corolla, or pull a Meg and preend to have a crack addicted son. Or go the opposite extreme and pay them $7.50 and put up a sign like, "We pay our employees well and therefore it is not required to tip them," like the signs they put out at United Supermarkets telling you not to tip the high school kids who bag your groceries and if needed take them to your car. Consequently won't be no spitting in food, dropping it on purpose, or other tampering that people always claim is justified if you dont tip "enough," or aren't liked by restaurant staff for whatever reason.
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You should take care of the tip...If you feel that the service was good.
I tip 15% regardless of poor or good service. Excellent service, I tip 18 -20%.
I tip 15% regardless of poor or good service. Excellent service, I tip 18 -20%.
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These threads never go well. You always have those that think they're entitled like whateversclever and then those who are anti-tip like DatZNasty. I don't see why waiters should be tipped 20%. If you have a relatively successful week, you're living as good as people who are skilled for essentially a job that requires little to no skill.
I'll gladly go to Taco Bell or McDonald's or better yet make it myself. I don't frequent restaurants because I like to see how my food is prepared. I don't eat from other people because of this.
This is what DatZNasty was talking about (search Google many feel this way). Waiters won't hesitate to brag about how much they can make which is why they build this belief that tips, high tips are mandatory and anything less is classless or ghetto.
Imo, you can't compare the two. Most people actually go to school to become barber's or stylists. Its a skill and an easily distinguishable one when comparing barbers/stylists.
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People go to school for a lot of things... Not everyone is tipped. Why barbers and not servers? You're buying the Barbers service for X amount that they set themselves... Say its $20, then (per social norms) you determine that the barber deserves more than that or not and tip him however much that is.
Why doesn't the barber just set his price to the Maximum amount he feels he can charge?
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Ignoring the subjectivity of both adjectives, I consider myself neither of the 2. And your offer sounds like a setup, so I'll decline. Even if I took it, no way I wouldn't pay my own way. And yes Trill I tip my barber, like 43% actually. She pushes a brand new Lex by the way. And Jesus I work in Automation Support and notjhing happens when I do my job up to or above expectation. I guess I get to not get fired, but I think I should steal that move from dude on page 1 and convince people how hard my job is and how oppressive my employer is so they should tip me a few bucks, even more if they want me to give them priority service like a bartender/delivery person says all the time. What fact did I avoid? Maybe VA is different, but down here the employer does have to make up the difference if servers dont get enough tips to bring it up to minimum. Btw bro above, sucks you're getting your tips stolen by your employer, truly does. Still, seems kind of like a you problem and not something everyone is going to be guilted into attoning for by way of increased tips.
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These threads never go well. You always have those that think they're entitled like whateversclever and then those who are anti-tip like DatZNasty. I don't see why waiters should be tipped 20%. If you have a relatively successful week, you're living as good as people who are skilled for essentially a job that requires little to no skill.
I'll gladly go to Taco Bell or McDonald's or better yet make it myself. I don't frequent restaurants because I like to see how my food is prepared. I don't eat from other people because of this.
This is what DatZNasty was talking about (search Google many feel this way). Waiters won't hesitate to brag about how much they can make which is why they build this belief that tips, high tips are mandatory and anything less is classless or ghetto.
Imo, you can't compare the two. Most people actually go to school to become barber's or stylists. Its a skill and an easily distinguishable one when comparing barbers/stylists.
People go to Bartending school as well....
DatzNasty please tell me you are not one of those dudes who go to a Strip Club and pay your $20 cover and sit alllllllll the way in the back sipping on that one $2 beer all night, shun all the private dances, don't tip a soul, pick up some of the scattered ones on the ground.....and bounce hyped off your $5 come up.
You guys are really projecting and generalizing an entire class of people on one or two people. Not every server or even the majority brag/think they are stunting with a good night of tips. Most are hardworking people that have families, are students, single parents, work two jobs, etc. Get off your high horses. If money ain't a thing, what is an extra $10 $20 $30 out of your pocket?
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It's definitely not a set-up....just because I don't agree with some folks here online doesn't mean I think they are terrible people are scum. If I have been interacting with some folks on here for over 10 years, I think a meal or a drink when they came to my area is not too outrageous.
It's not like I would run up the tab and make you pay and then wait for you to not tip and come to NT and make a thread about it. Not that serious, it's all good man.
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Of course everyone doesn't get tipped nor should they especially when you have a salary. The difference between barbers and servers is that at least servers make something per hour and are compensated if their tips do not meet the minimum wage. The only money that a barber sees is the money that he makes. Barbers don't set their own prices for a cut. Their prices are within what the market dictates per style. Its uniform everywhere you go.
A barber or stylist can't charge whatever they want because the free market will ultimately decide whether they stay in business or not and they know that especially if there's competition. There are as many barbershops as there are corner stores in my city. If one wants to charge unreasonably I can always take my service to another shop.
And every time I go out I tip them as well. Save the stupid faces.People go to Bartending school as well....
In only 14 states that doesn't happen.
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That statement is false is some cases....the info I posted early clearly states that.
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Right, but my question is why does the barber set the bar lower than he obviously expects from his customer?
I offer a $15 cut and do a good job, I should expect to be tipped up to $20 or $25. So the market price really is based on your average cut, but if I do a really good job, ill end up with above the market price, right?
Your restaurant server should be striving to pull that extra percentage just like the barber is. Do a really good job, be better than your counterparts, and be rewarded. Thats the expectation.
Datznasty tips his barber 43% apparently for reasons completely unknown to me... Tipping is tipping. But instead hes tipping a huge % to the guy that sets his own price to begin with even after saying "when i do a good job at my job my reward is not getting fired".
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The difference is that barbers don't expect to be tipped. There is no gratuity when you go to a salon. Like giving a tip to a waiter, its voluntary. Some, especially older barbers, find it offensive.Right, but my question is why does the barber set the bar lower than he obviously expects from his customer?
I offer a $15 cut and do a good job, I should expect to be tipped up to $20 or $25. So the market price really is based on your average cut, but if I do a really good job, ill end up with above the market price, right?
Your restaurant server should be striving to pull that extra percentage just like the barber is. Do a really good job, be better than your counterparts, and be rewarded. Thats the expectation.
Datznasty tips his barber 43% apparently for reasons completely unknown to me... Tipping is tipping. But instead hes tipping a huge % to the guy that sets his own price to begin with even after saying "when i do a good job at my job my reward is not getting fired".
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Right, but my question is why does the barber set the bar lower than he obviously expects from his customer?
I offer a $15 cut and do a good job, I should expect to be tipped up to $20 or $25. So the market price really is based on your average cut, but if I do a really good job, ill end up with above the market price, right?
Your restaurant server should be striving to pull that extra percentage just like the barber is. Do a really good job, be better than your counterparts, and be rewarded. Thats the expectation.
Datznasty tips his barber 43% apparently for reasons completely unknown to me... Tipping is tipping. But instead hes tipping a huge % to the guy that sets his own price to begin with even after saying "when i do a good job at my job my reward is not getting fired".
Here's the thing...even if you didn't tip the barber...he STILL got that $15, right? If you didn't tip the server? He LOSES money because servers are required to tip out the bartenders and bussers based on his sales of the night. And I agree, servers should earn there tips, Ive said that before. Awful service - awful tip, standard service - standard tip, excellent service - excellent tip...see a trend? The thing is though a lot of people will come up with reasons why the service wasn't "all that".
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Oh this **** again.... But you should have offered to leave a tip if you felt that strong about it
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Must be different around my way then... cause when I hand them my card and I know the total is $20, they ask if I "want to put $20 on it" which strongly indicates to me that they want to let me know that I'm free to tip as much as I want.The difference is that barbers don't expect to be tipped. There is no gratuity when you go to a salon. Like giving a tip to a waiter, its voluntary. Some, especially older barbers, find it offensive.Right, but my question is why does the barber set the bar lower than he obviously expects from his customer?
I offer a $15 cut and do a good job, I should expect to be tipped up to $20 or $25. So the market price really is based on your average cut, but if I do a really good job, ill end up with above the market price, right?
Your restaurant server should be striving to pull that extra percentage just like the barber is. Do a really good job, be better than your counterparts, and be rewarded. Thats the expectation.
Datznasty tips his barber 43% apparently for reasons completely unknown to me... Tipping is tipping. But instead hes tipping a huge % to the guy that sets his own price to begin with even after saying "when i do a good job at my job my reward is not getting fired".
This is why Datznasty tipping Barbers 43% and not tipping his waiter kills me so muchHere's the thing...even if you didn't tip the barber...he STILL got that $15, right? If you didn't tip the server? He LOSES money because servers are required to tip out the bartenders and bussers based on his sales of the night. And I agree, servers should earn there tips, Ive said that before. Awful service - awful tip, standard service - standard tip, excellent service - excellent tip...see a trend? The thing is though a lot of people will come up with reasons why the service wasn't "all that".Right, but my question is why does the barber set the bar lower than he obviously expects from his customer?
I offer a $15 cut and do a good job, I should expect to be tipped up to $20 or $25. So the market price really is based on your average cut, but if I do a really good job, ill end up with above the market price, right?
Your restaurant server should be striving to pull that extra percentage just like the barber is. Do a really good job, be better than your counterparts, and be rewarded. Thats the expectation.
Datznasty tips his barber 43% apparently for reasons completely unknown to me... Tipping is tipping. But instead hes tipping a huge % to the guy that sets his own price to begin with even after saying "when i do a good job at my job my reward is not getting fired".
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Because I don't need or want to be bothered with the $3 back hommie. I get $7 haircuts doggie. And it is a sole proprietorship, it all goes to the barber, eho I have known personally over a decade. And I agree Fraij, most barbers expect to be tipped and even NT barbers have admitted they will purposely zeek you or let better tippers skip you in line if you don't
And it is a sole proprietorship, it all goes to the barber, eho I have known personally over a decade. And I agree Fraij, most barbers expect to be tipped and even NT barbers have admitted they will purposely zeek you or let better tippers skip you in line if you don't
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So when you buy some eggs and a half gallon of milk at the corner store for $7 and all u got is a 10 you leave the $3 with the cashier, right?
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A barber who purposely zeeks is a barber that risks getting shot or beat up. It does happen. Some of those NT barbers will tell you that and they're lying if it doesn't. Money made at a barbershop is there's to keep which is why a tip shouldn't be expected. You only expect tips if you don't have the clientele to support what you do. My cousin is a professional barber who owns his shop and has celebrity clients in addition to regular people, not some run of the mill barber off the street. When a barber charges $20 as Fraij's does, his tip has already been included in the service provided. Its just like restaurants that mark up the price of food so that you don't tip waiters. Its already included.Because I don't need or want to be bothered with the $3 back hommie. I get $7 haircuts doggie.And it is a sole proprietorship, it all goes to the barber, eho I have known personally over a decade. And I agree Fraij, most barbers expect to be tipped and even NT barbers have admitted they will purposely zeek you or let better tippers skip you in line if you don't
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I live in the UK and tipping isn't as prevalent here, If I spend £20 I'll leave a £2-3 tip on average. I don't really agree with tipping the pizza delivery guy's though, if the pizza is £18 at best I'll just let them keep the £20 note. I do tip my barber though.
These threads are comedy but I don't like how people insist you should tip, (unless you go to a high-class restaurant, which is an entirely different thing) when I tip I feel that 90% of the time it hasn't been warranted.
These threads are comedy but I don't like how people insist you should tip, (unless you go to a high-class restaurant, which is an entirely different thing) when I tip I feel that 90% of the time it hasn't been warranted.
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some barbers are paying rent though!...bunch of ignorant waiters in this thread.
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this is the hypocrisy of servers and restaurants...if you don't pay a tip no one is arresting you, just some salty waiters looking at you funny afterwards.