2013 College Football Thread (Realer than Real Deal Holyfield -->S/O Craftsy)

[fear the ibis]

Not sure why people are acting like because they had a prior relationship it couldn't still be rape. I don't care if it's your girlfriend, if she says no and you force her it's rape. Prior relationship is irrelevant.

Also she reported this in January before anybody knew who Jameis Winston was so not sure why people are acting like she just came out with this all of a sudden now that he's famous. Wasn't it TMZ who dug this story out of the grave?


The irony of these posters being up all over campus...

 

[Lunden]

The sign though...   

This whole deal seems fishy as hell... What happened to the rapist's "description" being between 5'9 and 5'11? 

she clearly was drinking

I assume she is giving off the impression that she was too intoxicated so thats probably why you got a crazy description

too drunk to give out accurate description


idk this thing is just one big mess

u got FSU fans 1st saying "this is made up she just wants money and fame"

well she filed this when he wasnt even taking snaps on the field

then FSU fans went on to say "look at the description this is all made up! give us some DNA or no case"

now they have DNA linking WInston

FSU fans now saying "well it wasnt rape"

the whole TPD telling the family and victim to keep hush will not go away either

I see WInston getting a slap on the wrist and the girl and her attorny taking this higher then TPD, FSU, and Tallahassee Officials

I see her taking this to the higher ups who are gonna come in Tally and shake things up

As much as I wanna see this go away for dude I just see it ending bad

some where Johnny and Saban or doing the Birdman hand rub

 

[fraij da 5 11]

 

The sign though... 

 

This whole deal seems fishy as hell... What happened to the rapist's "description" being between 5'9 and 5'11? 

she clearly was drinking

I assume she is giving off the impression that she was too intoxicated so thats probably why you got a crazy description

too drunk to give out accurate description


idk this thing is just one big mess

But is it just a rumor that they were previously involved in any way? 

Who knows... ***** either gonna blow up or blow over this week..

 

[az5950]

I don't think anyone is implying it couldn't be rape, just that it seems unlikely due to all of the fogged dscriptions from the alleged victim. I feel confident, he isn't guilty due to the fact of Jimbo being so confident, and the fact that Winston has not seen lesser reps in practice. For those that follow FSU you remember Greg Dent, was in a similar situation, and he is no longer with the football team. I feel if anyone had enough evidence to charge Winston, they would have done so already

 

[maxelite]

Wasn't it revealed that she was in fact not intoxicated that night?



Regardless, this situation is unfortunate no matter what. Speculating about **** like this never amounts to anything.

 

[fear the ibis]

So they had sex.

Maybe wanted to, maybe she didn't really, none of us know.

11 months ago, he was a nobody, she didn't want to pursue legal action.
Now he's a huge star, she's ready for legal action.


Is that what everyone else has jotted down?

Yup, she's probably a typical FSU ***** that's trying to ruin his career or wants all the attention on her to get paid.

If Ray Lewis could get away with murder and still play in the NFL, Jameis will be fine.

This post reminds me, I need to mute you. Worst poster on NT strikes again.

 

[scarsorscabs]

**** JAMEIS

**** FSU

HOPE THAT FOOL GOES DOWN

Hey look, it's that guy.

 

[fear the ibis]

Wasn't it revealed that she was in fact not intoxicated that night?



Regardless, this situation is unfortunate no matter what. Speculating about **** like this never amounts to anything.

It doesn't matter if she was intoxicated. Or if any woman is or isn't intoxicated. Rape is rape.

 

[gunna get it]

why the **** would you **** heads post her picture and name?

Y'all are some sorry ******g low lifes

 

[maxelite]

It doesn't matter if she was intoxicated. Or if any woman is or isn't intoxicated. Rape is rape.

Bro, Im well aware of that.



What i was referring to was the description of a 5'9" - 5'11" person (which ultimately was not correct) was not due to her being intoxicated.

 

[39478]

Heisman voters should reconsider Mariota
By Ted Miller

Whining is not part of Oregon football. Whining doesn't win the day. Whining is not forward-looking. Whining means you're concerned with outside influences and things beyond your control. None of that jibes with the carefully constructed culture around the Ducks program.

So you won't hear many folks inside the Oregon football offices spout off about the asininity of quarterback Marcus Mariota being counted out of the Heisman Trophy race just because the Ducks lost at Stanford.

The Pac-12 blog, however, is not above whining, though it prefers to see it as vociferously opposing clouded, absurd or biased thinking.

Mariota is the best quarterback in the country. We know this because the numbers say so. He fronts the nation's No. 5 team and an offense that averages 51 points and 580 yards per game.

He has passed for 25 touchdowns. He has yet to throw an interception. After throwing three touchdown passes against Utah, he extended his Pac-12 record streak of pass attempts without an interception to 353. The old mark was 216 by USC's Brad Otton from 1994-95, so Mariota hasn't merely broken the record, he has stomped it into oblivion.

He also has rushed for nine touchdowns, averaging 7.2 yards per carry. So he has accounted for 34 touchdowns despite only being involved in 27 total fourth-quarter plays this year.

Ah, Mariota's rushing. That brings up a big reason Oregon lost to Stanford, as well as another compelling part of his Heisman résumé that is being overlooked: Mariota's toughness.

He has played the past two-and-a-half games with a sprained knee. While Oregon doesn't talk about injuries, it was obvious when Mariota donned a knee brace during the second half of the win over UCLA that something was wrong. The whole nation saw that against Stanford when the Ducks were forced to shelf one of the most productive parts of their offense: The spread option.

In the two games before UCLA -- Washington and Washington State -- Mariota rushed for 155 yards. In the past two games, he has rushed for minus-16 yards. That's a negative number because he's not actually running option plays or even really scrambling, which is why the Ducks have yielded eight sacks in the past three games after surrendering eight in the first seven.

So what has Mariota done on one leg for the past three games? He has completed 68 percent of his passes with six touchdowns, averaging 256 yards passing per game.

Toughness? In spades.

"That's never been a question around here," Oregon coach Mark Helfrich said. "That guy is a warrior."

Of course, Mariota, authentically humble and soft-spoken, doesn't have feelings one way or the other on his Heisman status.

"I have none, to be honest," he said. "Obviously that's other people's opinions and that's something I can't control. I'm just going to continue focusing on getting better and putting this team in good situations. Whatever comes with that comes with that."

Oregon quarterback Marcus Mariota, who has 25 touchdown passes this season, has not thrown an interception in 353 attempts.
That said, Mariota is not oblivious to the outside world. He did watch USC upset Stanford at a Red Robin restaurant with his family after beating Utah. The Cardinal's loss means the Ducks retook first place in the Pac-12's North Division. If they win at Arizona on Saturday and finish the season with a victory over Oregon State in the Civil War, they will return to the Pac-12 title game after a one-year hiatus. That could provide him with another marquee game, perhaps even on a healthy knee, to showcase his skills.

As for the knee, Mariota doesn't love talking about it, though he acknowledges it has been an issue.

"It is what it is," he said. "As a football player, you play through injuries. You learn to bounce back from adversity."

While he says the knee is getting better -- he might doff the knee brace in Tucson -- he does admit that it concerned his family when he first hurt it. As a likely early first-round NFL draft pick whenever he opts to leave -- this spring or next -- the redshirt sophomore does have an asset to protect.

"Obviously they do have some worry, they do have some concerns. But they support my decision no matter what," Mariota said. "They would have to pull me off the field before I wouldn't play. That's just the way I was raised. When you are part of a group, you do everything you can for that group."

That brings us to a final point about Mariota: Character. We will not waste time assailing the character of other Heisman candidates, we will only point out the utter lack of controversy surrounding Mariota. Further, he's a high-character guy without sanctimony. There is nothing efforted about him.

Helfrich, as the first-year curator of the Ducks inward looking football culture, is not going to rally around an aggressive campaign to get folks to reconsider whether the nation's most outstanding football player should win the Heisman Trophy, but he will say his piece.

"It's unfortunate how we played in the quote-unquote, marquee big game of the year, but a lot of that was not his doing," Helfrich said. "Marcus is phenomenal. All you have to do is look at the tape and watch what he has done throughout his short career. And, obviously, off the field the guy is even better."

That about sums up our effort to vociferously oppose clouded, absurd or biased thinking about who should win the Heisman.

 

[mr marcus]

**** that ***** if she lying......tired of men getting lied on by hurt women......posting her info isn't cool for the fact people will take things too far but she deserves some type of embarrassment if she lied on the kid .

edit: figured it was a white woman 

 .....I be giving my lil bro a heads up on them "only when I'm drunk ima ***** lova" white thots ......hopefully he keeps it in mind before he heads off to college next year.....them **** dangerous and will cry rape when it gets out they love the bbc......if you can't claim it in the day don't sneak for it at night 

 

[fear the ibis]

It doesn't matter if she was intoxicated. Or if any woman is or isn't intoxicated. Rape is rape.

Bro, Im well aware of that.



What i was referring to was the description of a 5'9" - 5'11" person (which ultimately was not correct) was not due to her being intoxicated.

Her giving an inaccurate description of his height is pretty irrelevant. Witness descriptions are known to unreliable as hell. Most people couldn't give an accurate description their own friends. Since DNA testing was first introduced 70%+ of convictions based on eyewitness have been overturned with DNA evidence. People have horrible memory when it comes to giving suspect descriptions.

 

[Chester McFloppy]

**** JAMEIS

**** FSU

HOPE THAT FOOL GOES DOWN

Jameis going down won't erase the loss against Duke.

 

[ninjallamafromhell]

Mariota is closing in on the record

MOST PASSES ATTEMPTED WITHOUT
AN INTERCEPTION
Game
77—David Piland, Houston vs. Louisiana Tech, Sept. 8,
2012 (completed 53)
Entire Season
224—Matt Blundin, Virginia, 1991 (completed 135)
MOST CONSECUTIVE PASSES ATTEMPTED
WITHOUT AN INTERCEPTION
Season
428—Colby Cameron, Louisiana Tech, 2012
Career
444—Colby Cameron, Louisiana Tech, 2011-12 (during 12
games; began Dec. 21, 2011, vs. TCU, ended Nov. 17,
2012, vs. Utah St.)

Source

 

[primetime21]

word on the street is that she has a picture of her and JW on her instagram

 

[Lunden]

why the **** would you **** heads post her picture and name?

Y'all are some sorry ******g low lifes

Its every where this is 2013

I dont think anybody posting any info in here would "leak" info the public doesnt already know

 

[h8menow]

Eh, just a messed up situation all around. If they don't press charges then people assume he's getting preferential treatment. What I don't really care for is that as a male in society, if you're accused of rape you're guilty in the public's eye until proven innocent. I wasn't there so I won't speculate on this case, but why are females who falsely claim rape never charged with a crime? If not a crime, maybe at least a public apology to the person you falsely accused and the real victims of rape. People like to say "what if is was your sister" etc, but false accusations happen far too often for me to blindly accept them as truth. Recently there were athletes kicked out of Temple and Xavier for being accused of rape and those allegations were later proven to be false. I doubt the schools even apologized.

 

[jthagreat]

It doesn't matter if she was intoxicated. Or if any woman is or isn't intoxicated. Rape is rape.

Bro, Im well aware of that.



What i was referring to was the description of a 5'9" - 5'11" person (which ultimately was not correct) was not due to her being intoxicated.

Her giving an inaccurate description of his height is pretty irrelevant. Witness descriptions are known to unreliable as hell. Most people couldn't give an accurate description their own friends. Since DNA testing was first introduced 70%+ of convictions based on eyewitness have been overturned with DNA evidence. People have horrible memory when it comes to giving suspect descriptions.

but if you know the person, you could give the name of the person...

 

[Lunden]

but if you know the person, you could give the name of the person...

I think she did

how else would he be linked to this in the 1st place?

 

[fear the ibis]

http://m.outkickthecoverage.com/manziels-stats-vs-winstons-adjusted-for-playing-time.php

I saw this earlier...Should have used plays instead of quarters to adjust for pace.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf...favorite-heisman-trophy-161757791--ncaaf.html

Manziel is hands down the best player in CFB and should win the Heisman. Only negatives against him are the two losses...which are to Auburn and Bama who are top 10. (Which he shredded Bama's top 5 defense) And he has better stats against tougher competition. Winston hasn't faced a legit defense all season. If anybody other than him wins the award is a joke.

 

[rell826]

Eh, just a messed up situation all around. If they don't press charges then people assume he's getting preferential treatment. What I don't really care for is that as a male in society, if you're accused of rape you're guilty in the public's eye until proven innocent. I wasn't there so I won't speculate on this case, but why are females who falsely claim rape never charged with a crime? If not a crime, maybe at least a public apology to the person you falsely accused and the real victims of rape. People like to say "what if is was your sister" etc, but false accusations happen far too often for me to blindly accept them as truth. Recently there were athletes kicked out of Temple and Xavier for being accused of rape and those allegations were later proven to be false. I doubt the schools even apologized.

Because law enforcement fears it would deter actual victims from coming forward which is low to begin with. I've only heard of one person being thrown in jail and that was in the Bronx a few years ago. She had to serve the amount of years the person she accused served. The judge who sentenced her was a woman if it matters.

It's too early to say what happened, but we know in the least that they had sex. What should have happened is that Winston's lawyer from the jump should have said it was consensual. Not hearing from him this entire time doesn't bode well for the perception of the accusation. The entire thing doesn't sit well with me from the intimidation by the local PD to not remembering where it happened.

 

[mr marcus]

rell .....where's your avy from? I feel like I've seen that scene but idk if I have 

 

[rell826]

From the Captain America: Winter Soldier trailer.

 

[mr marcus]

ohh thats where