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post #751 of 769
5/12/13 at 9:22am
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Originally Posted by tengoeljugode View Post

Jerry Jones gave Romo money like he was Brady, Manning or Brees. If that doesn't tell you how ****** up his mind is, then I don't know what to tell you.

If Romo wins a Super Bowl he will be in the same category as those QBs you mentioned.
That contract was front loaded and will be restructured if Romo doesn't get the job done.
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post #752 of 769
5/12/13 at 10:42am
Rookie Mini-camp Day 2....

http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia/videos/DCcom-Today-Mini-Camp-Day-2/3fa0cee1-124d-4c88-b522-1f75507a4c92
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post #753 of 769
5/12/13 at 12:06pm
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Originally Posted by toine2983 View Post

This dude  S J King gotta be Jerry Jones kin or something. laugh.gif

Jerry Jones is main person responsible for the Cowboys mediocrity over the last decade or so.

He got so upset because Jimmy Johnson got the credit for the Cowboys success in the 90s (and deservedly so) he decided to take a more hands on approach to the team so that any subsequent success would be given to him.

How has that worked out thus far? laugh.gifmean.gif

You said it's the head coaches job to win the Super Bowl and not the GM. However it is the GM's job to hire a head coach capable of winning a Super Bowl, not yes men that acquiesce to his every whim; that he can undermine and meddle with like the Jason Garretts and Dave Campos of the world.

Jerry needs to check his ego. He's the only owner that conducts post-game interviews after every game; that irks me beyond belief. mean.gif

Jerry even said himself that if any other GM had the track record he had, they would be fired with the quickness.

But that's not happening in Dallas, and that's the problem.

Jerry needs to realize that being the owner and GM of a team doesn't mean that he has to be the face of it, and until he does that the Cowboys will continue to swim in the waters of mediocrity.

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out of reps.
Here's what I'm tired of. Everybody acting like we haven't won our division recently.
Everybody acting like we haven't had winning seasons recently.
How many of yall have actually went back and looked at our team record each year since 1999?
Let me answer that for you, NONE.

As a fan WAAAAAAYYYYYYY before Jerry bought the team, I understand its fun to bash the Cowboys.
We have the same ups and downs as any other pro franchise, yet its made out to be so much worse when its the Cowboys.
I have decided to look at the reality of my favorite team, and the reality is we are a great franchise.
The reality is, when we won 3 championships in 4 years everybody was nut riding the star.
Now we hit some turbulent times, everybody wants to kick us while were down.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but history does repeat itself.
And if that is the case we are due to be back on top, and I believe that time is now.
I'm riding with the STAR!


Dude I told you the Cowboys record since 2000 is 102-104.....does adding the 8-8 record from 1999 matter?

The 3 Super Bowls in 4 years happened over 17 years ago!
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post #754 of 769
5/12/13 at 5:58pm
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Dude I told you the Cowboys record since 2000 is 102-104.....does adding the 8-8 record from 1999 matter?

The 3 Super Bowls in 4 years happened over 17 years ago!

Ok, so one person knows the record. But you fail to acknowledge during that time we won the division more than once.
We went 13-3 in '07 and were it not for Jason Garrett's dumb game plan against the Giants, we probably win the Super Bowl.
And you act as though 17yrs is an eternity!
I will take 3 Super Bowl wins in the last 17yrs over none at all in that same span of time.
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post #755 of 769
5/12/13 at 9:59pm
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Dude I told you the Cowboys record since 2000 is 102-104.....does adding the 8-8 record from 1999 matter?

The 3 Super Bowls in 4 years happened over 17 years ago!

Ok, so one person knows the record. But you fail to acknowledge during that time we won the division more than once.
We went 13-3 in '07 and were it not for Jason Garrett's dumb game plan against the Giants, we probably win the Super Bowl.
And you act as though 17yrs is an eternity!
I will take 3 Super Bowl wins in the last 17yrs over none at all in that same span of time.


The Cowboys have won the division twice since 1999.

I doubt the Cowboys are going to beat the Packers at Lambeau Field or beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl

17 years is a long time ago! .Dez Bryant was like 7 the last time the Cowboys won the Super Bowl

But I like how much faith you have in Jerry Jones. I cant knock it
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post #756 of 769
5/12/13 at 11:01pm
How is winning a 4 team division twice 14 years an accomplishment?
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post #757 of 769
5/13/13 at 6:18am
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How is winning a 4 team division twice 14 years an accomplishment?

Hey when your division has the most super bowl wins and Superbowl appearances not to mention the most NFC championship wins ill take that over people who haven't even sniffed the playoffs. We play in a tough division if we were playing in the AFC East instead of the pats we would beat up on the Jets bills and dolphins every year stay healthy and win championships like they do. Every year we fight to stay competitive in our division nothing is easy and nothing has been given to us.
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post #758 of 769
5/13/13 at 8:13pm
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How is winning a 4 team division twice 14 years an accomplishment?

Didn't classify that as an accomplishment, but why should it be frowned upon?
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Originally Posted by Slicknick951 View Post

Hey when your division has the most super bowl wins and Superbowl appearances not to mention the most NFC championship wins ill take that over people who haven't even sniffed the playoffs. We play in a tough division if we were playing in the AFC East instead of the pats we would beat up on the Jets bills and dolphins every year stay healthy and win championships like they do. Every year we fight to stay competitive in our division nothing is easy and nothing has been given to us.

Slicknick951 thats real football talk bro. These cats act like I'm talking about playing Madden.
The Cowboys were the "Team of the 90s".
No team in the modern era has repeated as "Team of the Decade".
Free Agency and parity doesn't allow that to happen.
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post #759 of 769
5/13/13 at 11:25pm
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Originally Posted by Mr S J King View Post

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How is winning a 4 team division twice 14 years an accomplishment?

Didn't classify that as an accomplishment, but why should it be frowned upon?
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Originally Posted by Slicknick951 View Post

Hey when your division has the most super bowl wins and Superbowl appearances not to mention the most NFC championship wins ill take that over people who haven't even sniffed the playoffs. We play in a tough division if we were playing in the AFC East instead of the pats we would beat up on the Jets bills and dolphins every year stay healthy and win championships like they do. Every year we fight to stay competitive in our division nothing is easy and nothing has been given to us.

Slicknick951 thats real football talk bro. These cats act like I'm talking about playing Madden.
The Cowboys were the "Team of the 90s".
No team in the modern era has repeated as "Team of the Decade".
Free Agency and parity doesn't allow that to happen.

In the last 17 years the NFC East has the same amount of Super Bowl appearances of any other division. This perceived toughness of the NFC East is overrated. The North has 4, the East has 4, the West has 5 and the South has 4.

In a 4 team division a team should win a division title once every 4 years or so by default.

Al Davis had accomplished as much as Jerry Jones has and went to a Super Bowl more recently than him and by the end of his tenure the Raiders were a joke.

Its getting to that point here in Dallas.

The Toronto Huskies won a NBA championship 60 years ago. At what point is that no longer relevant?
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post #760 of 769
5/14/13 at 12:40pm

It's not relevant here anymore for most people... The overwhelming majority of people in Dallas think this thing is a train wreck and that we're working really, really hard to repeat 8-8 seasons for eternity.

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post #761 of 769
5/14/13 at 2:57pm
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Originally Posted by Mr S J King View Post

If Romo wins a Super Bowl he will be in the same category as those QBs you mentioned.
That contract was front loaded and will be restructured if Romo doesn't get the job done.

I'm sorry, if Romo wins a super bowl. That's a big "if"......... He still wont be in the league of Manning/Brady/Brees. YEAH-He would join a list of QB's with a ring. However that elite list of QBs have been putting up MVP numbers year after year. Flaco got the ring but I still wont put him in the same club as Brady and Manning. Its already a slap in the face that Romo is getting paid on that level. But to sit here and hear he is on ring away is crazy. LMAO Romo has never even been in the top 5 MVP list since he been in the NFL but he is up there with the MVP QBs?
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post #762 of 769
5/14/13 at 5:55pm
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I'm sorry, if Romo wins a super bowl. That's a big "if"......... He still wont be in the league of Manning/Brady/Brees. YEAH-He would join a list of QB's with a ring. However that elite list of QBs have been putting up MVP numbers year after year. Flaco got the ring but I still wont put him in the same club as Brady and Manning. Its already a slap in the face that Romo is getting paid on that level. But to sit here and hear he is on ring away is crazy. LMAO Romo has never even been in the top 5 MVP list since he been in the NFL but he is up there with the MVP QBs?

Elite this, elite that. Quit latching onto that media hype. Is the measuring stick Super Bowl wins or MVP trophys?
And why are you putting Peyton Manning and Drew Brees in the same category as Brady? Because of their stats?
And that "if" about Romo isn't big at all. I'm in Dallas and see the transition that's being made.
Three solid drafts in the last three years. Legitimate weapons on offense.
Great linebacker core and a solid secondary. Defensive line will be a question mark because of the new scheme.
I'm calling 11-5 maybe 12-4.
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post #763 of 769
5/14/13 at 7:47pm
Man that must be some tasty Kool-Aid.

In before "I live in Dalllas, I know this team and real football" laugh.gif
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post #764 of 769
5/14/13 at 8:13pm
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Man that must be some tasty Kool-Aid.

In before "I live in Dalllas, I know this team and real football" laugh.gif

Real tasty. Got a 64oz Cowboys cup full. I'll save you some bro. glasses.gif
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post #765 of 769
5/14/13 at 10:27pm
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I'm sorry, if Romo wins a super bowl. That's a big "if"......... He still wont be in the league of Manning/Brady/Brees. YEAH-He would join a list of QB's with a ring. However that elite list of QBs have been putting up MVP numbers year after year. Flaco got the ring but I still wont put him in the same club as Brady and Manning. Its already a slap in the face that Romo is getting paid on that level. But to sit here and hear he is on ring away is crazy. LMAO Romo has never even been in the top 5 MVP list since he been in the NFL but he is up there with the MVP QBs?

Elite this, elite that. Quit latching onto that media hype. Is the measuring stick Super Bowl wins or MVP trophys?
And why are you putting Peyton Manning and Drew Brees in the same category as Brady? Because of their stats?
And that "if" about Romo isn't big at all. I'm in Dallas and see the transition that's being made.
Three solid drafts in the last three years. Legitimate weapons on offense.
Great linebacker core and a solid secondary. Defensive line will be a question mark because of the new scheme.
I'm calling 11-5 maybe 12-4.


I agree if Tony Romo wins the Super Bowl the upcoming season, ESPN would anoint him as an elite quarterback.
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post #766 of 769
5/23/13 at 7:34pm
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Originally Posted by Mr S J King View Post


Elite this, elite that. Quit latching onto that media hype. Is the measuring stick Super Bowl wins or MVP trophys?
And why are you putting Peyton Manning and Drew Brees in the same category as Brady? Because of their stats?
And that "if" about Romo isn't big at all. I'm in Dallas and see the transition that's being made.
Three solid drafts in the last three years. Legitimate weapons on offense.
Great linebacker core and a solid secondary. Defensive line will be a question mark because of the new scheme.
I'm calling 11-5 maybe 12-4.

11-5 or 12-4?

 

I ain't mad. But you think honestly we could get this record? I'd be grateful for 10-6

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post #767 of 769
5/23/13 at 7:38pm
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post #768 of 769
5/23/13 at 8:16pm
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I agree if Tony Romo wins the Super Bowl the upcoming season, ESPN would anoint him as an elite quarterback.

Haven't they already? I've heard that term used on at least 8-10 QBs....not quite what it used to mean.
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post #769 of 769
5/23/13 at 8:52pm
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Originally Posted by Mr S J King


Elite this, elite that. Quit latching onto that media hype. Is the measuring stick Super Bowl wins or MVP trophys?
And why are you putting Peyton Manning and Drew Brees in the same category as Brady? Because of their stats?
And that "if" about Romo isn't big at all. I'm in Dallas and see the transition that's being made.
Three solid drafts in the last three years. Legitimate weapons on offense.
Great linebacker core and a solid secondary. Defensive line will be a question mark because of the new scheme.
I'm calling 11-5 maybe 12-4.
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11-5 or 12-4?

I ain't mad. But you think honestly we could get this record? I'd be grateful for 10-6

If you take into consideration Garrett's dumb play calling last year, that's easily 3 additional wins.
I don't see us getting any worse. Romo with more control means a more uptempo offense.
Similar to what we saw in the 4th quarter of games when he would go hurry up.
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