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If Garrett is in fact fired, he will leave Dallas and be successful somewhere else where he isn't handicapped by Jerry Jones and a choke artist QB. Much like Sean Payton.

Garrett is a quality coach, he may not be Dungy/Cowher, but he sure isn't Wade Phillips/Chan Gailey/Dave Campo.

This team may not win another Super Bowl as long as Jerry Jones is alive.
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If Garrett is in fact fired, he will leave Dallas and be successful somewhere else where he isn't handicapped by Jerry Jones and a choke artist QB. Much like Sean Payton.

Garrett is a quality coach, he may not be Dungy/Cowher, but he sure isn't Wade Phillips/Chan Gailey/Dave Campo.

This team may not win another Super Bowl as long as Jerry Jones is alive.

Pretty much. We have to get lucky and somehow win in spite of Jerry.

But to be honest, I don't see Garrett getting another HC'ing job right away. Maybe OC at BEST but I'm thinking he has to be a QB coach again.
post #3544 of 9565
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If Garrett is in fact fired, he will leave Dallas and be successful somewhere else where he isn't handicapped by Jerry Jones and a choke artist QB. Much like Sean Payton.

Garrett is a quality coach, he may not be Dungy/Cowher, but he sure isn't Wade Phillips/Chan Gailey/Dave Campo.

This team may not win another Super Bowl as long as Jerry Jones is alive.

Pretty much. We have to get lucky and somehow win in spite of Jerry.

But to be honest, I don't see Garrett getting another HC'ing job right away. Maybe OC at BEST but I'm thinking he has to be a QB coach again.

That's why I'm not sold on it being any different no matter the coach. It's also no guarantee that just because a coach has won a Super Bowl in the past means that they will do well in the future. Parcells won how many playoff games with Dallas? Jimmy Johnson came back with Miami did what? What's Shanahan doing in Washington? What did Joe Gibbs do when he came back to Washington? Zip, Zero, Nada.
post #3545 of 9565
Honestly, Romo has always been the problem ... People like to make excuses but that is the long and short of it ... I see football from a coach's perspective because I coach and he is the reason why this franchise has been terrible for his time ... Garrett is growing as a head coach, learning at the expense of the organization ... But without Romo being simply terrible, Garrett is more successful in his tenure ...

The game was lost today, not on the two picks, but Romo's inaccurate deep balls to Dez Bryant ... He throws the worst deep ball in the NFL and that includes Chad Pennington ... If Romo was simply average at throwing deep, Dez has two touchdowns ... Romo has been statistically above average and historically terrible in crunch time ... But the games are won and lost on his inability to make accurate deep throws ... Happened last week when he sailed a deep in to Dez on the short field drive and it happened 3 times today ...

Tony Romo in December is like watching Bill Buckner (I think that's his name) lowlights on repeat ... He is not a winner, never has been and never will be ...
post #3546 of 9565
Romo has been horrid this year. Kills me when people say he's having a great year. Dude hasn't completed one deep ball all year, can't convert on third downs, misses wide open dudes, constant overthrows, purposely taking sacks 80% of the time he sees any pressure... Half of his Tds are just the result of Dez and Witten making great plays.

Hope we aren't witnessing the beginning of a decline.
post #3547 of 9565
^^ I'd say Romo is part of the problem but not *THE* problem man. You can't have 22 game winning drives and not be at least halfway decent.

Keep in mind the Cowboys are 26-44 in December since 1996.

Romo was 15 years old in 1996.

But Romo/Garrett doesn't work. One of them has to go.

We just paid Romo 108 mill so he isn't going anywhere.

That forces Garrett to be the one to bite the bullet.


#Cowboys OC Bill Callahan: "I'm not required to speak to the media after the game."

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Clay Matthews: "I feel like we won the Super Bowl. I know it might be a little premature in saying it. I feel like I was in college again."
Edited by MPire - 12/15/13 at 7:07pm
post #3548 of 9565
Ya'll called me a troll about a month ago when I said they should have went after Alex Smith. They could have gotten Alex Smith and used the rest of the salary cap savings to buy a defense.

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Cguy, I don't eem wanna hear it ... I've been taking flack for about a solid 5 years going in on this Romo/Garrett regime we've been witnessing ... In fact, every single time I speak I'm right on this damn forum and I catch hell for it ... Bounty Be Real bruh ...
post #3550 of 9565
Garret won't be ishh wherever he goes, he is what his record at head coaching shows. Mediocre.. Example being Romo calls a audible to change a running play to a passing play on 2nd and 6 and throws a INT and Garret doesn't show any emotion. Him and Wade Phillips aren't going to make it as a Head coach anywhere. The Sean Peyton's, Ryan's, jimmy Johnson's, Switzers,Parcells, Ryan's demand respect and hold players accountable for not doing their job. All the problems the cowboys have held in the past 5 years comes down to discipline. As a cowboys fan that watches his team beat themselves week after week it gets to the point where I feel they don't trust or respect the coaching staff so they are overthinking every call instead of going out there and playing.
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post #3551 of 9565
Cowboys preparing for Sean Lee to miss rest of season, now also nursing Sims and Durant in addition to sidelined Carter

The Cowboys are bracing for news that Sean Lee is going to miss the rest of the season, another blow to a linebacker corps that also lost Ernie Sims and Justin Durant in Sunday’s loss to the Packers.

A team source said the Cowboys expect to hear this week that Lee is finished for the season, as he undergoes further evaluation for a neck injury.

When it rains...
post #3552 of 9565
Time for a new strength and conditioning coach

 

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post #3553 of 9565

Was there tonight and thought my team was done for without rodgers but they pulled through and man was it a madhouse afterwards. Loved every minute to the end.

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mean.gif....I don't even know anymore.... At least my annual prediction of 7-9 8-8 or 9-7 is going to be right

Worst part of the game today was when a family came in to my job and this girl who had to be no older then 10 says to her dad as Romo threw the last pick "same old Romo" and just shook her head laugh.gifmean.gif


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Ya'll called me a troll about a month ago when I said they should have went after Alex Smith. They could have gotten Alex Smith and used the rest of the salary cap savings to buy a defense.

http://niketalk.com/t/506081/official-2013-dallas-cowboys-season-thread-7-7-next-game-12-22-skins/2940_20#post_19086865

Alex Smith and Garrett wouldn't have worked. Alex Smith would've been Chad Hutchenson if he was playing for Dallas. Let's not get carried away here.
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This game personified the romo era. Great stats on paper but in reality pissed the bed when it counted.

An almost pick that was overturned up 5 in the 4th quarter followed by an actual pick up 5 and another pick a few minutes later down 1.

8 seasons of romo and not once has he been held accountable for his actions. Never has he been in fear of losing his job. He's a great statistical qb but a mental midget and stats only tell half the story

The playcalling was atrocious. All those pass plays with 4 minutes left and Green Bay low on timeouts. Wow.

The defense sucks and has made mccown look great and Matt Flynn replicate his week 17 2011 performance against Green Bay in the 2nd half.

Its been 8 years of middle of the pack play. If Garrett and kiffen are still coaching the cowboys next season Jerry has failed that fanbase. Gingers can't be trusted with power.
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not surprised at what happened, not at all

 

gimme Lovie Smith..........

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As for Romo, I said in week 2 his deep ball was off and people came after me for that observation. Weeks later, I was right. His deep ball has been terrible this year.

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Just out of curiosity,

When people say "Romo wet the bed when it really counted" does that mean this was considered a huge game? I know we are all emotional about what happened last night but the guy does have 22 4th quarter comebacks. Do those somehow never get factored into the equation? Only when he chokes, it matters? To those that say "I'm waiting for the inevitable INT", were you saying that the other 22 times as well? Because in reality, you can do that for any QB and then when it does happen, I can say "SEE? He threw a pick."

Every game last year up until that Washington game was a "MUST WIN" for the Cowboys except for the Saints because the Giants lost to Atlanta that day. We pulled off an improbable win after one of our own teamates killed another, beat a Steelers team that was desperate and in the playoff hunt, and beat a division rival after being embarassed at home?

I am in no way absolving Romo for what happened yesterday. But the "He always does this" comments have no merit when you think about all the many times he hasn't. Somehow I knew this would be considered a "Big game" because we lost despite the fact that we are in position for a "win and in scenario" at home against Philly.

The fact is, he is our best QB option at the moment. We can draft a QB next year to groom as Romo is getting old, but there is no other QB on the market that can do better than Tony right now with THIS Dallas Cowboys team.

I do sometimes wonder how many of our fans truly experienced the dark ages after Troy retired. Because if you truly experienced that era of Cowboys football, there is no way you can say ridiculous things such as "Start Orton" or "Get Michael Vick." And I know no one in here has said that but that's some of the comments I've been reading on various sites/FB.
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Just out of curiosity,

When people say "Romo wet the bed when it really counted" does that mean this was considered a huge game? I know we are all emotional about what happened last night but the guy does have 22 4th quarter comebacks. Do those somehow never get factored into the equation? Only when he chokes, it matters? To those that say "I'm waiting for the inevitable INT", were you saying that the other 22 times as well? Because in reality, you can do that for any QB and then when it does happen, I can say "SEE? He threw a pick."

Every game last year up until that Washington game was a "MUST WIN" for the Cowboys except for the Saints because the Giants lost to Atlanta that day. We pulled off an improbable win after one of our own teamates killed another, beat a Steelers team that was desperate and in the playoff hunt, and beat a division rival after being embarassed at home?

I am in no way absolving Romo for what happened yesterday. But the "He always does this" comments have no merit when you think about all the many times he hasn't. Somehow I knew this would be considered a "Big game" because we lost despite the fact that we are in position for a "win and in scenario" at home against Philly.

The fact is, he is our best QB option at the moment. We can draft a QB next year to groom as Romo is getting old, but there is no other QB on the market that can do better than Tony right now with THIS Dallas Cowboys team.

I do sometimes wonder how many of our fans truly experienced the dark ages after Troy retired. Because if you truly experienced that era of Cowboys football, there is no way you can say ridiculous things such as "Start Orton" or "Get Michael Vick." And I know no one in here has said that but that's some of the comments I've been reading on various sites/FB.

 

i'm a Romo fan, but he's making it hard to like him this year

 

he's extremely talented, but extremely frustrating

 

idk what to do, they just gave him serious BANK

 

I guess I would draft a QB to start grooming, Manzel is high on my list because I think in this offense you need a mobile QB

post #3562 of 9565
^ ^ I agree 100%.

Romo is most definitely frustrating.

I am not fond of him yelling at his HC, although I'm sure it was justified.

I am not fond of his lack of an accurate deep ball since 2011.

But he is the best we have. We can either be 8-8 with him, or 3-13 without him.

One might say "3-13 is the better option so we are not stuck in neutral and get a higher draft pick."

But have we forgotten who our GM is? The same GM who traded 2 first rounders for Joey Galloway? Same GM who traded a 1st, 3rd, 6th, and conditional 7th for Roy E. Williams, who was set to become a free agent the year after? The same GM who gives out extensions for 'soon to be' washed up veterans?

We technically have to be in "Win now" mode every year because a rebuild under Jerry is not possible. The only reason we were lucky to get Parcells is because Jerry's stigma prevented him from getting stadium funding after the Campo years. Jerry has his stadium, and his $$$ so we won't see another strong HC in Dallas until Jerry passes.

I urge you all to watch that Bill Cowher video that discusses the culture in Dallas. It was posted yesterday.
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I like Romo, was a huge fan, but every season my love for him dies a little.

 

8-8 football team, said it April, now they may be a 7-9 football team

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Romo changing the run plays at the line.........

had a typo in my previous post, but how the hell does the HEAD F!!!!N Coach throw his QB under the bus
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I'd love to hear the defense of Jason Garrett ' s job right now
Iwas always defending dude but nah son he gotta go. Damn season not over yet though but I don't want to lose just for him to get fired. I wanna win still and unless we lose to Washington it comes down to Sunday night week 17

There's a part in the movie "the wash" (with snoop and dre) where Deebo says a line that rings true of j. garrett

"I do enough not to get fired."

F!!! him. fire him now.
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forgive me for still being upset.

Yes, it is said that Romo audibled to a pass. WE LEARNED THAT FROM OUR HEAD COACH. IS THAT WHO YOU WANT RUNNING YOUR TEAM? HE THREW HIS QB UNDER THE BUS.

WHAT ABOUT THE 3 PREVIOUS PASS PLAYS? WE GOT BAILED OUT GETTIN THE FIRST DOWN ON 3RD DOWN....WHEN WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN RUNNING THE F!!!N BALL. THIS IS NO DIFFERNT THEN THE BOTCHED ENDING IN DETROIT.

DEMARCO DIDNT HAVE A 45+ YARD RUN THAT INFLATED HIS 7 YPC, THAT MO FO WAS RUNNING 7 YARDS EACH PLAY. RUN THE ******G BALL.

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(ROMO)He throws the worst deep ball in the NFL and that includes Chad Pennington

THIS IS VERY TRUE.

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As for Romo, I said in week 2 his deep ball was off and people came after me for that observation. Weeks later, I was right. His deep ball has been terrible this year.

THEY prolly came after you cause romo has never been able to throw a deep ball.

yo furious right lolol
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I'm ready for the entire team to be gutted. Only person I'd keep over the age of 26 is Lee. Would keep the receivers, minus Miles, Mo(in hopes he'd rebound with a healthy offseason) maybe Scandrick and Church, Carter, Tyron and Fredrick, Eecobar, and Bailey. But everyone else can go.

Last night was the first time since Romo has been in the NFL that I fully expected him to blow it. Just knew that second pick was coming, and when it did it didn't even upset me because I knew it was coming. Never felt that before mean.gif

The only QBs who'd succeed in Dallas right now would probably be Peyton and Rodgers, don't think anyone else would, too many holes on this team. And as long as Romo is the starter the team won't be bad enough to fix those holes in the draft.... perpetual mediocrity.


His contract is worked in a way so that Dallas could release him in year 3 of the deal without it hurting the team. I think they need to find a QB in this or the next draft, groom him behind Romo until we can release him and go from there. And they need to start gutting the team this offseason. Players, coaching staff, medical staff, strength and conditioning, water boys, EVERYONE. Only constant from 06 should be Jerry.

Btb did a post on what that would be like.... Doesn't look like it'd be that bad.
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2013/12/11/5200500/how-the-cowboys-can-blow-up-the-roster-and-start-from-the-bottom

I've just seen enough of Garrett and Romo.
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I'm ready for the entire team to be gutted. Only person I'd keep over the age of 26 is Lee. Would keep the receivers, minus Miles, Mo(in hopes he'd rebound with a healthy offseason) maybe Scandrick and Church, Carter, Tyron and Fredrick, Eecobar, and Bailey. But everyone else can go.

Last night was the first time since Romo has been in the NFL that I fully expected him to blow it. Just knew that second pick was coming, and when it did it didn't even upset me because I knew it was coming. Never felt that before mean.gif

The only QBs who'd succeed in Dallas right now would probably be Peyton and Rodgers, don't think anyone else would, too many holes on this team. And as long as Romo is the starter the team won't be bad enough to fix those holes in the draft.... perpetual mediocrity.


His contract is worked in a way so that Dallas could release him in year 3 of the deal without it hurting the team. I think they need to find a QB in this or the next draft, groom him behind Romo until we can release him and go from there. And they need to start gutting the team this offseason. Players, coaching staff, medical staff, strength and conditioning, water boys, EVERYONE. Only constant from 06 should be Jerry.

Btb did a post on what that would be like.... Doesn't look like it'd be that bad.
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2013/12/11/5200500/how-the-cowboys-can-blow-up-the-roster-and-start-from-the-bottom

I've just seen enough of Garrett and Romo.

 

KD did a real good job on that BTB post

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"@espn_macmahon: Dez Bryant's biggest crime this year has been caring deeply about winning/losing and struggling to control emotions. Not an awful problem."

Him and Lee seem to be the only ones mean.gif
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Too bad management, coaching staff, and the majority of our players don't care as much as Dez and a few others do about winning mean.gif ... the culture around our organization is being content with 8-8 seasons or hoping to sneak in the playoffs and go on a run like the Giants mean.gif ... Every year since the Giants went on a run down the stretch, Jerry continues to mention "look what the Giants did" after every loss mean.gif
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