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post #4441 of 9565
I'm not going to hold my breath. Looks as though they want to be young but haven't realized young/cheap doesn't equall good players who are hungry every time
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I'm not going to hold my breath. Looks as though they want to be young but haven't realized young/cheap doesn't equall good players who are hungry every time
Good Point
post #4443 of 9565
Jared Allen visiting the Cowboys tomorrow; Melton today.

If we sign both, relatively cheap, I'm feeling pretty good about our line going into the draft.
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Even if it's just Allen, that's huge.

We need veteran leadership on defense and he's always been a great locker room guy
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Jared Allen visiting the Cowboys tomorrow; Melton today.

If we sign both, relatively cheap, I'm feeling pretty good about our line going into the draft.

I agree, but knowing Dallas, we only end up with Melton.
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post #4446 of 9565
Melton >>>>>> jarred.



Not even close.
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Melton >>>>>> jarred.



Not even close.

Not sure about that, especially with Melton coming off the injury.

We could use Allen's pass rushing skills and leadership on D. Somewhere like Lee can learn a lot from him.
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Weeden mean.gif

What was the point of that signing mean.gif...
post #4450 of 9565
Saying he's a camp body, while Romo's recovering/ competition for backup spot. Putting too much faith in JG working with quaterbacks. mean.gif
Backup qb is a need but we need someone young. That way if JG gets fired, he can start until the new coach gets "his guy", like new coaches always do.

And if it happens to work out, then we have a qb.
post #4451 of 9565
At best he's a backup... It literally doesn't matter who the backup is. Anyone other than Romo ends up back there for an extended stretch and we're picking in the Top 10...

Probably a solid indication of which way they think Orton is leaning.
post #4452 of 9565
Release 31 y/o Ware, let Hatcher walk (with low tread on the tires mind you), use that money we cleared up...to sign 30 y/o Weeden. Rodgers-Cromartie back in the NFC East, We've got to face The uptempo eagles, RGIII led Washington, and 2 time SB Champ Elijah, mean.gif. Team is a flat out JOKE. And, Romo turns 34 years old before start of season. I can bet you ANY amount of money, we'll need a new signal caller in 2 years.
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Melton >>>>>> jarred.



Not even close.

Melton is young.  Jared is old.  It's really that simple.  Plus interior pass rushers are extremely rare, and Allen's sack numbers hide the fact that he's been less productive in terms of hits/hurries, etc.

 

I really wanted Melton on the Hawks.

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DRC sucks I am glad he is back in the NFC East, Dez abused that dude every single time he played him

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Release 31 y/o Ware, let Hatcher walk (with low tread on the tires mind you), use that money we cleared up...to sign 30 y/o Weeden. Rodgers-Cromartie back in the NFC East, We've got to face The uptempo eagles, RGIII led Washington, and 2 time SB Champ Elijah, mean.gif. Team is a flat out JOKE. And, Romo turns 34 years old before start of season. I can bet you ANY amount of money, we'll need a new signal caller in 2 years.

1) Releasing Ware and letting Hatcher leave were good decisions.

2) Weeden being signed as a place holder backup QB doesn't stop us from doing anything else. 

3) What does DRC have to do with anything?

4) The only way to fix the issue of facing the offenses we play is to get younger/faster on defense. Did you expect that to be done before the draft without much cap space? 

5) Again, how would you like us to address the QB issue RIGHT NOW? 

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1) Releasing Ware and letting Hatcher leave were good decisions.
2) Weeden being signed as a place holder backup QB doesn't stop us from doing anything else. 
3) What does DRC have to do with anything?
4) The only way to fix the issue of facing the offenses we play is to get younger/faster on defense. Did you expect that to be done before the draft without much cap space? 
5) Again, how would you like us to address the QB issue RIGHT NOW? 

1) You didn't explain why we released 2 pro bowlers, who were tenured for over 8 years ('05, '06 draft picks), one in particular, Hatcher, who's a team leader and actually outplayed Marcus Spears who he sat behind for years. BUT, we had/have interest in Peppers and Jared Allen...Who are both older than Hatch/Dware.
2) What does DRC have to do with anything? LOL, We face the Giants TWICE and their DBs are notorious for play Dallas well. Don't cry when you see a DRC pick-6 housed.
4) See #1
5) Didn't say address it now. It's funny we're rebuilding, at a stage where Romo is about to soon retire...
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put DRC on Dez and see what happens, I love that signing for the Giants, heck I commend them for bringing that guy back here to play us twice a year

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1) Releasing Ware and letting Hatcher leave were good decisions.
2) Weeden being signed as a place holder backup QB doesn't stop us from doing anything else. 
3) What does DRC have to do with anything?
4) The only way to fix the issue of facing the offenses we play is to get younger/faster on defense. Did you expect that to be done before the draft without much cap space? 
5) Again, how would you like us to address the QB issue RIGHT NOW? 

1) You didn't explain why we released 2 pro bowlers, who were tenured for over 8 years ('05, '06 draft picks), one in particular, Hatcher, who's a team leader and actually outplayed Marcus Spears who he sat behind for years. BUT, we had/have interest in Peppers and Jared Allen...Who are both older than Hatch/Dware.
2) What does DRC have to do with anything? LOL, We face the Giants TWICE and their DBs are notorious for play Dallas well. Don't cry when you see a DRC pick-6 housed.
4) See #1
5) Didn't say address it now. It's funny we're rebuilding, at a stage where Romo is about to soon retire...

Have you seen DRC play lately? Not even sure why he's even being brought up. Dez abused him in Philly/Denver and the same will happen with the Giants. Their secondary doesn't scare anyone. What did their secondary do vs us last year?
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Have you seen DRC play lately? Not even sure why he's even being brought up. Dez abused him in Philly/Denver and the same will happen with the Giants. Their secondary doesn't scare anyone. What did their secondary do vs us last year?

thank you, Dez gives that dude nightmares so I am glad they gave him 39 million

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1) You didn't explain why we released 2 pro bowlers, who were tenured for over 8 years ('05, '06 draft picks), one in particular, Hatcher, who's a team leader and actually outplayed Marcus Spears who he sat behind for years. BUT, we had/have interest in Peppers and Jared Allen...Who are both older than Hatch/Dware.
2) What does DRC have to do with anything? LOL, We face the Giants TWICE and their DBs are notorious for play Dallas well. Don't cry when you see a DRC pick-6 housed.
4) See #1
5) Didn't say address it now. It's funny we're rebuilding, at a stage where Romo is about to soon retire...

1) They're both over 30 and either declining (Ware) or only been extremely productive for one season (Hatcher)... Nobody ever said we were out there trying to throw wads of cash at Allen or Peppers. We wouldn't have paid Peppers what he got, and we won't pay Allen that kind of cash either. Why wouldn't we at least talk to them and see if the market was low enough to buy on a friendly deal? It'd be stupid not to. We did the same thing with Ware before deciding the price was too high. 

 

2) DRC in New York is not going to make or break our season. He's not elite. 

 

4) You're talking in circles.

 

5) So you're just *****ing about us not being good? Welcome to the last two decades. 

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Dude hasn't had more than 3 INTs since 2010 and has 1 INT returned for a TD since 2011, this is who ya want me to be afraid of? mean.gif
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Dude hasn't had more than 3 INTs since 2010 and has 1 INT returned for a TD since 2011, this is who ya want me to be afraid of? mean.gif



19 INTs in 6 years... 5 returned for TDs. Go sit down somewhere and watch tape. He's the definition if a risk taker at CB.
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1) They're both over 30 and either declining (Ware) or only been extremely productive for one season (Hatcher)... Nobody ever said we were out there trying to throw wads of cash at Allen or Peppers. We wouldn't have paid Peppers what he got, and we won't pay Allen that kind of cash either. Why wouldn't we at least talk to them and see if the market was low enough to buy on a friendly deal? It'd be stupid not to. We did the same thing with Ware before deciding the price was too high. 

2) DRC in New York is not going to make or break our season. He's not elite. 

4) You're talking in circles.

5) So you're just *****ing about us not being good? Welcome to the last two decades. 

Man, hush that noise bruh. Hatcher's been productive for ONE season? And, you call yourself a fan? He was a late round draft pick from Grambling State. Even when we were 3-4 heavy, HE WAS ALWAYS making an impact. Him and Chris Canty were disruptive for YEARS. Stop sitting here saying that was only productive one season. He's only been a full-time starter for TWO seasons. Yet, guys have faith in Anthony Spencer? Who started alongside Ware and did nothing for 5 years? Save it.

2) ...
4) ...
5) Last two decades? LOL, In that case, no SBs in 1994, or 96? Or having actually MADE the playoffs 4 times in the 2000s? :roll eyes

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19 INTs in 6 years... 5 returned for TDs. Go sit down somewhere and watch tape. He's the definition if a risk taker at CB.

Dude had three picks on a team where the othe squad was throwing the ball on 90% of snaps to keep up with the Broncos.

Drc is above average at best
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Man, hush that noise bruh. Hatcher's been productive for ONE season? And, you call yourself a fan? He was a late round draft pick from Grambling State. Even when we were 3-4 heavy, HE WAS ALWAYS making an impact. Him and Chris Canty were disruptive for YEARS. Stop sitting here saying that was only productive one season. He's only been a full-time starter for TWO seasons. Yet, guys have faith in Anthony Spencer? Who started alongside Ware and did nothing for 5 years? Save it.

2) ...
4) ...
5) Last two decades? LOL, In that case, no SBs in 1994, or 96? Or having actually MADE the playoffs 4 times in the 2000s? :roll eyes

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Spencer was consistently top 3 at his position(second olb) stop using sack total to judge a player's effectiveness
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Dude had three picks on a team where the othe squad was throwing the ball on 90% of snaps to keep up with the Broncos.

Drc is above average at best

Look at the Arizona #'s fam. Stop discrediting this dude. Do you know how HARD it is to play Cornerback? Let alone get interceptions AND take 5 to the house for TDs? And, he's only 27 years old. Look at the NFL record books for top interceptees. The list is compiled mostly of Safeties.
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Spencer was consistently top 3 at his position(second olb) stop using sack total to judge a player's effectiveness

Top 3 BRUH? In what UNIVERSE? Better than Wake? Watt? Hali? Orakpo? Dumervil? He did force a lot of fumbles, I will give him that.
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Dude had three picks on a team where the othe squad was throwing the ball on 90% of snaps to keep up with the Broncos.

Drc is above average at best

Look at the Arizona #'s fam. Stop discrediting this dude. Do you know how HARD it is to play Cornerback? Let alone get interceptions AND take 5 to the house for TDs? And, he's only 27 years old. Look at the NFL record books for top interceptees. The list is compiled mostly of Safeties.

How bout you go take a look at some NEW tape instead of living in the past. His numbers came in Arizona and hasn't done a damn thing since he's left. He has 1 TD since 2011! You're in here campaigning for him like the Giants just signed Revis or Talib. Miss me with that foolishness.
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Watt plays dl
Orakpo is a #1

Spencer was fourth in the league in sacks (6), pressures (31) and hits (9), though pressures and hits are unofficial stats. For his position

In his last season played...
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