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I don't know what Murray expected rolling up to a major sporting event in Dallas, after defecting to a hated division rival. He gave the Cowboys two strong seasons ultimately. It's not like he brought a championship to the city like Emmitt or Aikman.
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In negotiations with Greg Hardy
That would be scary for me. I hear Dallas and Seattle are pretty close in the Hardy race, and I sure hope it's the latter. "Kraken" can play and get after the QB, I don't want him in the division chasing whoever plays QB for Philly.

With the looming legal issue (DV case) and imminent 6-game suspension, Hardy can't be getting anything more than a 2-year contract. Maximum 3-year deal, incentive laden.
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Unless one of these RBs is expected to be the next Emmitt Smith, I wouldn't even go RB in the first round.
Todd Gurley's ceiling would place him as the best back in this year's class or last. You enhance his value in Dallas behind your top-notch OL. Wouldn't even miss Murray with a healthy and motivated Gurley in town. Big drop-off between him and Gordon, IMO.
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post #7412 of 9549
Stephen Jones is bringing in Greg Hardy with intentions of signing
post #7413 of 9549
Easily committed to signing Greg Hardy, but yea, signing Dez Bryant to a big contract is "risky"...eyes.gif
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Greg Hardy visiting Valley Ranch today.
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post #7415 of 9549
Sign greg hardy....
Then draft running back in first round.
Then use the rest of the draft for d. I'd be content with that.
post #7416 of 9549
^ ^ Either Todd Gurley or Melvin Gordon, then go all defense the rest of the draft.

The Dez thing is simply posturing, im pretty sure they'll come to an agreement by July.

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post #7417 of 9549
Yea, I think they are just focused on what they can do with cap for all the other gaps we have before we get the Dez deal done.
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post #7418 of 9549
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@AdamSchefter: For now, forget about Seattle and Tampa being involved. Dallas is undisputed favorite to land free-agent DE Greg Hardy.
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RT @toddarcher: Greg Hardy scheduled to have dinner with some Cowboys coaches tonight after spending part of day at Valley Ranch.
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Person close to #GregHardy / #Cowboys talks tells @1053thefan 'things going extremely well.'
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post #7420 of 9549
Get Hardy. Draft an RB. Defense rounds 2-5. BPA after that. Resign Dez, and we'll be alright.
post #7421 of 9549
First time I've been excited about Cowboys news all offseason.

Let's get this done Stephen !!
post #7422 of 9549
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Get Hardy. Draft an RB. Defense rounds 2-5. BPA after that. Resign Dez, and we'll be alright.

Don't forget McClain.
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post #7423 of 9549
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Don't forget McClain.

Definitely , if we want any sense of continuity .
post #7424 of 9549
Lose McClain and a position of strength instantly becomes a weakness and has no depth. Again.

Plus you can never count on Sean lee to play 16. So we need dude back even more.
post #7425 of 9549
Yeah, definitely can't forget about McLain, have to resign him. Don't and when Lee inevitably goes down were left W/ Hitchens being our only LB we know for sure we can rely on atm mean.gif.

Although, next to offensive line, this team has shown that the position group that they are probably best at coaching up/finding players for is LB, maybe we'll find another hidden gem like Hitchens or McClain last year.
post #7426 of 9549
If the Cowboys are willing to sign Hardy, then they can sign McClain as well.
post #7427 of 9549
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@ProFootballTalk · 4m 4 minutes ago
Greg Hardy has agreed to terms with the Cowboys.

@ProFootballTalk · 4m 4 minutes ago
It's a one-year deal for Greg Hardy in Dallas, that can be worth up to $13.1 million but that has a minimum base salary.


Low risk...

Now get McClain done. Since we have about $4.2mil left.


Get Dez done open up some millions to re-sign depth guys at RT, DE, DT, DB, S.
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post #7428 of 9549
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@ProFootballTalk · 4m 4 minutes ago
Greg Hardy has agreed to terms with the Cowboys.

Yea buddy, now let's see how many games he gets suspended for, also hope he takes Spencer spot.

EDIT: Looks like Spencer may sign with Seattle.
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post #7429 of 9549
Was upset about it being only one year but there's no way dude was gonna take more than one year unless it was a huge deal. Dude is in for a big payday if he shows up this season.
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Awesome deal. 2.6 million cap hit.

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post #7431 of 9549
I'm hearing he got a no franchise tag clause in the deal too....
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post #7432 of 9549
Great move, now let's bring McClain back and add another CB or S that can come in and play right away. Wouldn't mind going after CJ Mosley for our DLine either.
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post #7433 of 9549
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I'm hearing he got a no franchise tag clause in the deal too....

Yep. Only thing about the deal I don't like.

But.. If Hardy does leave... That more than likely means we get a third round compensatory pick for a one year rental smokin.gifsmokin.gifsmokin.gifsmokin.gifsmokin.gif
Edited by Blackboyfly - 3/18/15 at 1:31pm
post #7434 of 9549
Lets hope he balls out and has a huge year. After this year we should know how good Lawrence will be too. Gotta find a RB in the draft. I really want Gurley, but i definitely dont see him there at 27.

Still want to draft a pass rusher in the 4th round as this is a one year marriage with Hardy
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Lets hope he balls out and has a huge year. After this year we should know how good Lawrence will be too. Gotta find a RB in the draft. I really want Gurley, but i definitely dont see him there at 27.

Still want to draft a pass rusher in the 4th round as this is a one year marriage with Hardy

 

I hope he has an awesome year, we need him to perform. 

post #7436 of 9549
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Lets hope he balls out and has a huge year. After this year we should know how good Lawrence will be too. Gotta find a RB in the draft. I really want Gurley, but i definitely dont see him there at 27.

Still want to draft a pass rusher in the 4th round as this is a one year marriage with Hardy

Can always trade up.

26 to 22 cost a 3rd rounder last year.
27 to 20 cost a 3rd rounder last year.



Honestly we only could sign 3-4 depth guys for cheap on the line, and only need to draft a Pass Rush DT in the 2nd.
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Can always trade up.

26 to 22 cost a 3rd rounder last year.
27 to 20 cost a 3rd rounder last year.



Honestly we only could sign 3-4 depth guys for cheap on the line, and only need to draft a Pass Rush DT in the 2nd.
if he falls in the 20s you can bet jerruh gonna trade up. I was reading somewhere that 80% of the time with Jerry at the helm the cowboys have traded 1st round spots so it's inevitable.
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Originally Posted by Blackboyfly View Post

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Awesome deal. 2.6 million cap hit.

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2.6m base cap hit, but based on his NLTBE (not likely to be earned) bonuses, his cap hit actually raises after every game. (9.25m/16games= ~575k), so after every game, if he reaches the incentive, his cap also rises ~575k. The 2.6m is based off his base salary + work out bonus + roster bonus for first game for his LTBE bonuses.

 

So theoretically, if Hardy makes the roster and does begin to play a lot, his cap rises with every game. Assuming Hardy plays every game and reaches the roster incentives for each game, he'll get the 11m pay out on the season which would all be accounted for in this years cap, it'll be interesting to see how the Cowboys make it work. They couldn't afford to offer Demarco Murray a contract that averages out to about 8m a year, but then Greg Hardy's cap hit could be up to 11m for this season.

 

The only cap hits plausible for next year is the NLTBE sack incentives. So if Hardy leaves after the year, he can only have a dead hit up to 1.8m for the sack incentives.

 

Expect restructures or releases to happen as the season goes on to fit Greg Hardy's contract within the cap. This is not a normal contract structure, but it is available because Hardy was gone for a year and the Cowboys took advantage of that with a loop hole of the NLTBE bonuses to fit his cap for now, again, his cap is going to go up, so we'll see how it all works out.


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2.6m base cap hit, but based on his NLTBE (not likely to be earned) bonuses, his cap hit actually raises after every game. (9.25m/16games= ~575k), so after every game, if he reaches the incentive, his cap also rises ~575k. The 2.6m is based off his base salary + work out bonus + roster bonus for first game for his LTBE bonuses.

So theoretically, if Hardy makes the roster and does begin to play a lot, his cap rises with every game. Assuming Hardy plays every game and reaches the roster incentives for each game, he'll get the 11m pay out on the season which would all be accounted for in this years cap, it'll be interesting to see how the Cowboys make it work. They couldn't afford to offer Demarco Murray a contract that averages out to about 8m a year, but then Greg Hardy's cap hit could be up to 11m for this season.

The only cap hits plausible for next year is the NLTBE sack incentives. So if Hardy leaves after the year, he can only have a dead hit up to 1.8m for the sack incentives.

Expect restructures or releases to happen as the season goes on to fit Greg Hardy's contract within the cap. This is not a normal contract structure, but it is available because Hardy was gone for a year and the Cowboys took advantage of that with a loop hole of the NLTBE bonuses to fit his cap for now, again, his cap is going to go up, so we'll see how it all works out.

Thought he was most likely missing at least first 4, possibly 6, games tho.
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