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The question should be when has the Cowboys had a solid secondary especially the Safeties?!?!? AGESSSSS nerd.gif

My bet is when we still had Deion and Darren Woodson was young.. So 97?
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The question should be when has the Cowboys had a solid secondary especially the Safeties?!?!? AGESSSSS nerd.gif

My bet is when we still had Deion and Darren Woodson was young.. So 97?

Right On...its pathetic!
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Romo could be a very frustrating player to have leading this team sometimes, but other times he's the reason why we win games that we do. If you look at last season, he put up some bad #'s (just look at his interceptions), however, those interceptions came because we had no choice but to throw the ball. Our run game was non existent last season. The biggest concern I have about Romo (& really the whole team) is inconsistency. Romo will put together a string of games where he is dominant & he'll put the team on his back. Then he'll turn around & completely take us out of games & fold in clutch moments. We have a lot of issues outside of just Romo, but the biggest thing I want to see with him is consistency.
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Give Me Romo The First Game of season vs NYG. and second half Romo vs Clev, Cin, Pitts and possibly NO and 2nd time vs NYG. (all second half of course) And This offense Will Be balling out of its mind.... 

 

Romo took the nastiest of shots that would of sidelined most of NFL QB's, Romo got right back up and led the team. I still love the way Romo has the ability for a white dude to roll out and dodge defenders and make plays... Yes, I know its a risk at times.. But I love it. 

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^^^Give me the O-line and running attack we had in those games also.
If our running game can stay efficient and move the chains, our offense should be potent.
Its also up to Jason Garrett to call quality run plays, and have enough brains to utilize play action at the right time.
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People giving romo a hard time missing out on OTA's cause his cyst... But I Like this pic of Romo just the fact Seeing him out there mentoring Cole Beasley I Like this dude I Call him our Broke Mans Wes Welker, Beasley + Harris + Rookie Allen + Rookie T. Williams. It's gonna be a battle for the #3 WR Spot. 

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unless terrance williams shows out, its gotta be dwayne harris' job to lose right??

 

 

i HATED ogletree...last game of the season and hes STILL running the wrong routes...smh...plus i like what dwayne harris brings with the rock in his hand...he has sure hands..can go inside or out...  bryan broddaus said he was running his routes much more crisp, and looked leaner and faster..

 

i think this offense is gonna be something else...

 

 

 

my question is defense..in particular safety...ive read matt johnson is penciled in as a starter, ive read will allen...

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The question should be when has the Cowboys had a solid secondary especially the Safeties?!?!? AGESSSSS nerd.gif

My bet is when we still had Deion and Darren Woodson was young.. So 97?

- 09 secondary was solid; we led the league in sacks that year and got great pressure every game. imo, having a beast front 7 is way more important than the secondary.

- I like Harris too. He's not fast but just makes people miss, great hands, never fumbles. Exactly like Crayton before the injury/fall off.

-Excited for Sean Lee and Bruce Carter. Bruce's closing speed and Sean stays with the clutch INTs. Plus I feel they're fast/smart in general.

- Romo getting in on the gameplanning/calling his own plays I'm warming up too. I feel like he'd more inclined to throw especially early. Read some stuff way back that the good teams have pass/ run balasnce because they throw early, build a lead and milk the clock late. And we've had success with that way back (pimp.gif) Also read some stuff that more qb's should probably call their own plays and it had examples, etc. One thing I do remember was two years ago watching two Rams games vs the Giants and Ravens. In both games i don't know if it was scripted or Bradford calling the plays but they're first drive was no huddle and they would march down the field. And then they would stop and struggle to score the rest of the game. It boggled my mind; why they wouldn't just go no huddle full time.

- Demarco regressed in my opinion. I wonder if he was truly healthy but he looked like he was missing that pop he used to have. Hope that's the case.

- I think Dez is primed for a huge year. Absolutely can't wait. He's gonna be healthy, he's laser focused right now, and he's in practice. He's going to OD on the league.

Just some random thoughts. Sorry for rambling. Just want the team to get healthy, finish 10-6 or above. All I ask.
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Can someone explain to me how you all KNOW a WR has ran the wrong route. I hear an announcer say it, and a few minutes later its on NT (not a personal shot at all, very serious i wanna know)

Dez gets S!!!d on by the announcer for a bad route, yet Romo went on to throw like 3 more interceptions if im not mistaken. its just weird to me so id like to know.

and like always, i PRAY Ed werder stays away from us this season. Seen him reporting on Cruz missin giants camp and was feeling bittersweet, he's goonna ruin Cruz's career with his reporting....
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Its football fellas, the league is set up for every team to eventually big win big. Why can't it be the Cowboys?
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Bill Callahan was just confirmed as the playcaller.
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Can someone explain to me how you all KNOW a WR has ran the wrong route. I hear an announcer say it, and a few minutes later its on NT (not a personal shot at all, very serious i wanna know)

Dez gets S!!!d on by the announcer for a bad route, yet Romo went on to throw like 3 more interceptions if im not mistaken. its just weird to me so id like to know.

and like always, i PRAY Ed werder stays away from us this season. Seen him reporting on Cruz missin giants camp and was feeling bittersweet, he's goonna ruin Cruz's career with his reporting....

sometimes you can tell just off of the other routes around it.

Look at he lower route on the left side. If the out did a curl both WRs would be in the same area.




Now how would a person watching know who ran the wrong route Idk.

Now a BAD route? thats a totally different thing.

Good

Bad
I couldnt find a good example but you get the idea. She stops and doesn't come back to the ball. It allows the defender to go right under you

lazy WRs do this all the time when they dont think they are going to get the ball so they end the route early then end up having the QB picked off
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Can someone explain to me how you all KNOW a WR has ran the wrong route. I hear an announcer say it, and a few minutes later its on NT (not a personal shot at all, very serious i wanna know)

Dez gets S!!!d on by the announcer for a bad route, yet Romo went on to throw like 3 more interceptions if im not mistaken. its just weird to me so id like to know.

and like always, i PRAY Ed werder stays away from us this season. Seen him reporting on Cruz missin giants camp and was feeling bittersweet, he's goonna ruin Cruz's career with his reporting....

sometimes you can tell just off of the other routes around it.

Look at he lower route on the left side. If the out did a curl both WRs would be in the same area.




Now how would a person watching know who ran the wrong route Idk.

Now a BAD route? thats a totally different thing.

Good

Bad
I couldnt find a good example but you get the idea. She stops and doesn't come back to the ball. It allows the defender to go right under you

lazy WRs do this all the time when they dont think they are going to get the ball so they end the route early then end up having the QB picked off

appreciate you taking the time my man.
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I like Harris as our 3rd receiver... He's got good hands & I think he would fit real well in the offense behind Dez & Miles.
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Harris Showed out this season. Especially on 3rd downs. I forget which game it was, but it was a crucial drive and it was 3rd and 7 or so. Romo hit Harris on a bubble pass, Somehow Harris broke the initial CB's hit and beasted for a 1st down. That right there I became a believer. 

 

 

Consider me reaching, But If Dez shows out like last year, and IF Miles Stays healthy all 16 games. *crosses fingers* and we get Harris the Rock more... I Think The Dallas Cowboys Could Have THE Nastiest WR Corps Out There. & Don't Forget Witten, To Fast for LB's and To Big For CB's/Safetys. Witten opens the field as well and makes defenses scheme there DB's on him. Causing Single Coverage on Dez + Miles is to quick for a CB to play off on him. 

 

So Yeah, Dallas Cowboys Have Potentially The Sickest WR's. Can't Knock ATL, NE, NO, SF, SEA. But We COULD be up there....

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Harris Showed out this season. Especially on 3rd downs. I forget which game it was, but it was a crucial drive and it was 3rd and 7 or so. Romo hit Harris on a bubble pass, Somehow Harris broke the initial CB's hit and beasted for a 1st down. That right there I became a believer. 


Consider me reaching, But If Dez shows out like last year, and IF Miles Stays healthy all 16 games. *crosses fingers* and we get Harris the Rock more... I Think The Dallas Cowboys Could Have THE Nastiest WR Corps Out There. & Don't Forget Witten, To Fast for LB's and To Big For CB's/Safetys. Witten opens the field as well and makes defenses scheme there DB's on him. Causing Single Coverage on Dez + Miles is to quick for a CB to play off on him. 

So Yeah, Dallas Cowboys Have Potentially The Sickest WR's. Can't Knock ATL, NE, NO, SF, SEA. But We COULD be up there....

All we need is a line to block and give them time to get open
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Jerry cut Jason off at the knees again yesterday... SMH

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Harris Showed out this season. Especially on 3rd downs. I forget which game it was, but it was a crucial drive and it was 3rd and 7 or so. Romo hit Harris on a bubble pass, Somehow Harris broke the initial CB's hit and beasted for a 1st down. That right there I became a believer. 


Consider me reaching, But If Dez shows out like last year, and IF Miles Stays healthy all 16 games. *crosses fingers* and we get Harris the Rock more... I Think The Dallas Cowboys Could Have THE Nastiest WR Corps Out There. & Don't Forget Witten, To Fast for LB's and To Big For CB's/Safetys. Witten opens the field as well and makes defenses scheme there DB's on him. Causing Single Coverage on Dez + Miles is to quick for a CB to play off on him. 

So Yeah, Dallas Cowboys Have Potentially The Sickest WR's. Can't Knock ATL, NE, NO, SF, SEA. But We COULD be up there....

I think they already do. Miles had better stats then 16 #1 receivers last year. Dez is Dez, Witten is Witten, we saw the progression of Harris and Hanna last year. No reason they can't be the best corps in the league. Hearing out of mini camp that Dez, Hanna and Harris look even better than last year. Cant forget Williams either. Dude was the best receiver in college statistically. If he can give us 25 percent of his college production that's 450 yards 4 TD's for a #4 receiver smokin.gif . Cant forget about the tight end we drafted either. Weapons everywhere.

Cant forget T Smith will have another year of experience and there's no way Fredrick can be worse than what we had at center last year. So our line has to be at least a little better, that should help the Receivers have even bigger numbers.

I've had the Cowboys / Jerry Jones Kool-Aid before but I dont know... this year feels different.

Giants have no linebackers / secondary, JPP just had surgery, Osi left, Eli doesn't even know who he'll be throwing to in camp.

Eagles are rebuilding,

Skins needed absolutely everything to go right (8 straight wins, 5-1 in division, being spotted 28 points vs Dallas, RG3 only throwing 5 picks, having mad luck with fumbles, Dallas losing over half their starters on D, Philly having their worst year in 15 seasons, Giants taking the year off) just for them to win the division by one game... idk all that stuff isn't going to happen again this year.

Lee and Carter can be one of the two best LB corps in the league, Mo will be better, Ware and Spencer are going to cause havoc. Hearing really good things about the rookie Webb.

If the team stays healthy I expect good things. Definitely not a Superbowl but I see them at least winning the division and a playoff game, barring multiple key injuries of course.

Alot of people don't like Garrett but you have to give him credit for how hes building this team through the draft. I trust his plan. * finishes Kool-Aid smokin.gif *
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For the first time in a long time we have legitimate play makers on both sides of the ball.
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Now let's see if we can put it ALL together.

I don't really know why, but I like that we have a late bye week this year
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I would be happy if he was mentoring a young athletic back up Qb instead of a WR.....
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I would be happy if he was mentoring a young athletic back up Qb instead of a WR.....

Go! Orton? Lol. 

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Can someone explain to me how you all KNOW a WR has ran the wrong route. I hear an announcer say it, and a few minutes later its on NT (not a personal shot at all, very serious i wanna know)

Dez gets S!!!d on by the announcer for a bad route, yet Romo went on to throw like 3 more interceptions if im not mistaken. its just weird to me so id like to know.

and like always, i PRAY Ed werder stays away from us this season. Seen him reporting on Cruz missin giants camp and was feeling bittersweet, he's goonna ruin Cruz's career with his reporting....

Its not that Dez was running the "wrong" route, he just wasn't making the adjustment to the coverage Garrett wanted him to make.
I'm sure we all remember the Bears game and the pick 6 they had when Dez was blamed for running the wrong route.
My educated guess is that in practice and film session it was determined if you get this look from the defense, you run this route.
Well in Dez's mind (and every explosive receiver thats ever played the game) he's thinking, why break the route off when I can blow by this scrub and take it to the house.
So now you have the conflict between head coach/off. coord., QB, and WR.
That conflict created all the sideline discussions we saw the first half of the season. Fast forward to the second half of the season.
Garrett listens to his young talented receiver and veteran QB, allowing Dez to use his speed and size to make plays downfield.
That allows Dez to have a great second half of the season, racking up multiple 100yd games and games with 1 or more TD.
Hopefully the trend continues, and by looking at our draft thats the intentions out at Valley Ranch.
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it doesnt matter if dez can beat charles tillman 200 out of 200 times down the field, when the blitz comes you adjust accordingly..not making the right adjustment = he ran the wrong route..no if ands about it.

 

the bears showed zero coverage (man across the board) with the safety creeping up on dez's side, thus making his side overloaded side or the "hot" side.  so its his job as the receiver to be on the same page as the qb, and be a security blanket right there, not to want to go downfield for the big play..it was def the wrong play. romo had little to no time to throw that curl that peanut picked, let alone a 9 route down the field..the defense was there in no time..

 

 


jthagreat -  a tell tale sign that a receiver ran the wrong route is when the ball is nowhere near him on the throw, then the qb and or head coach digs into him shortly after...we saw that alow with kevin ogletree..off the top of my head i remember romo or garrett dogging him after ints in seattle, against chicago, and week 17 in dc....not to mention COUNTLESS times where romo is lining this dude up properly as the playclock winds down..no reason for him not to know where to be on the field this late in his career..

 

 

 

 

 

 

heres an example: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000119719/Romo-picked-off

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He doesn't have to throw it 40yds down field. He had enought ime to make his drop and make a throw.
Romo chose to throw underneath as opposed to over the top. A 10yd difference at most.
Look back at the play Tillman sat on the hitch, Urlacher was sitting inside on the slant.
Best option was to throw it up and let Dez make a play against the safety.
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i feel you...i like your logic, and it makes perfect sense to me..

 

 

i just dont think he could have launched a 9 route to dez...even in the shotgun as soon as he got the rock the defense was there..peanut sat on the curl, but had dez ran the proper route he woulda either boxed peanut out or its an incompletion...

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap1000000068484/Tillman-picks-off-Romo-for-TD

 

peep the 2nd angle of this vid, there was a single high safety who was in perfect position to take out the 9...but ill give credit where its due, if romo was to throw a perfect pass between the corner and safety (like eli to manningham superbowl) it would have worked...so we can call a spade a spade here..neither right or wrong imo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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VA757VA , watched the replay and noticed something else.
FELIX JONES SCRUB ***** PICKED UP THE WRONG BLITZER!
He should have picked up the safety off the edge because the center picked up Lance Briggs.

As far as the route, I think if Dez runs the hitch, Tillman blast him as soon as the ball gets there, ball pops up and Urlacher picks it off.
I give Dez the advantage against 90% of the safeties in the NFL, and a hitch route that close to your own end zone is dangerous anyway.
This shows how many ways Garretts offensive thinking was out of whack with the current NFL.
I'm glad a wiser, more knowledgeable offensive mind like Callahan is here to help out.
Supposedly Callahan is from the Bill Walsh lineage, so the offense should be fun to watch.
Jerry has spent WAAAAAYYYYYY too much money on that offense to let Garrett squander it away.
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