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Mike Woodson trolling NYC media. "Bad coaching", he is very smart.
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post #7742 of 28831
Hey the celts lost at least
post #7743 of 28831
Felton shot 4-24? Gotdamn
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Did not watch but are you serious? 2 key players and coach ejected in the 4th? Unless he got punched that ref should be fired.
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We played horribly for the most part, and that was matched by officiating.

 

Hats off to Chicago, they'll always be in the mix as long as they play with that type of intensity.

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Originally Posted by DubA169 View Post

If a random person who doesnt watch sports heard what Wally just said, I doubt they would want to watch this league

Just like I called earlier in this thread. It's just much harder to hear when an NBA player confirms it

The "physical teams" in the NBA "earn" the lack of calls and are allowed to play a certain style and get away with things. In fact they are so aggressive that the refs then decide they can't call anything


Sorry but that's just ridiculous. It's too WWF



We haven't "earned" calls. Melo doesn't "deserve" calls. mean.gif


The worst part is the refs will usually even it out with fouls in garbage time so people can point to the stats and say hey look they are even. You are making it up.


None of us had a problem with that when the 90's Knicks used it to their advantage...

 

Just saying. *shrugs*

 

I'm with Allen on this one. I don't like how the team lets frustration from other teams' aggressive defense and/or bad calls get in their head. It happened in the Grizzlies game too.

 

Originally Posted by Big Meech View Post

The nba refs are the worst officials out of every league and is not even close.

 

This is undeniably true though. And it bugs me when ****** don't wanna 'eem acknowledge some of the bull ****.. mean.gif

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post #7747 of 28831
It wasn't that the Knicks were allowed to play physical AND the refs stopped the other team from playing defense by calling touch fouls.

When the 90s Knicks played MJ he still had the Jordan rules and still got preferential treatment. Same thing will happen to the bulls if the play the heat

I agree the composure should be better. But they are human and melo gotta be tired of not getting the treatment other stars get. Because I don't see a reason for it honestly
post #7748 of 28831
Woodson needs to start sending them tapes in just like cuban did for nowitzski.
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post #7750 of 28831
Was at the game and haven't watched anything, don't think I'm gonna. Can someone say what JR did on that T though? From where I was sitting it seemed like his back was to the ref that T'd him up so unless he said something idk how the eff that was a T. Refs let this game completely get out of control obviously.

Refs aside we deserved to lose. Chicago are coached really well, took away everything from us tonight and Deng did a good job on Melo, even though Melo gets no protection from the refs. If I remember I think Felton threw only 1 lob tonight (completely forced too) and for me that;s all on Thibs and how he played the PnR tonight. Obviously it would help if we could hit a few shots but this was one of those nights where we ran into a real well coached and defensive team who put the clamps on us I feel like.
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Felton shot 4-24? Gotdamn

this **** drives me crazy too. dude is the PG you can't chuck your team out of games. tonight wasn't solely on him but I feel like it's inevitable at this point that he shoots us out of a playoff game, hopefully it's only one.
post #7751 of 28831
I was wrong, it was 9-21. Your point still stands though. Felton shoots too much trying to keep us in games and ends up taking us out of games.
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1. Noah is that guy that you love having as a teammate but hate to play against. Dude got under everyone's skin right in the beginning of the game and it made a huge difference. Dude plays his role to perfection and I think at the moment deserves to start at C in the ASG over Tyson.

2. When you combine Noah being annoying as **** with thibbs being a defensive mastermind, and then the refs letting them get away with murder, everything compounds and creates the frustration we saw today. Our players arent like the Miami heat or the Thunder players, we have a bunch of players with attitude who take things personally which is fun and what we as new yorkers love in a team, but today we saw the ugly side of having a team like that.

3. If we're gunna win a title we have to learn to play through games like this. The same **** happened in Memphis and the Knicks reverted into running last years Melo-ball isolation. The one positive to take is that hopefully the team learns from this now instead of having to learn these lessons on the fly in the playoffs.
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Chandler: Hey man i'm tired of this %. Let's get outta here early

Noah: Yea of course you smell like $%.

Chandler: You say what?

Noah: Hah, i said I want an early shower.

Chandler: Oh i got you dog. Let's pretend like we're gon fight.

 

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Chandler: Hey man i'm tired of this %. Let's get outta here early
Noah: Yea of course you smell like $%.
Chandler: You say what?
Noah: Hah, i said I want an early shower.
Chandler: Oh i got you dog. Let's pretend like we're gon fight.

Ref: Hey guys hurry up. I got some last minutes chrismas shopping to do.
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The officiating was bad but I don't want the Knicks to use that as an excuse.

We got out-played. No if, and, or buts about it. Our offense was looking like it did last year, stagnate with no ball movement. Felton is slumping hard. But honestly, I'm not even that mad about our offense, our defense was horrible. Uninspired and flat out suspect at times. They outplayed us. We let the Bulls get way to many open shots. Our defense has been lazy these past few games, I'm sure Woody is going to light them up about it.

I really wanted to win this game, I hate this Bulls team and Noah. Can't wait for the next one.
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yea, i aint trippin off this game, all them injuries, and horrible no calls.

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post #7759 of 28831
^ not to mention the rebounding is horrible and i cant see how amare coming off the bench will help that
post #7760 of 28831
Tough loss yesterday, especially because we were finally starting to put together something like a run in the 4th. But it is what it is. These games will happen. We are a scouted team now. What we need to do is have a better gameplan when teams eliminate our PnR.
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post #7761 of 28831
Sheed supposedly has a stress fracture in his left foot. Might not be back until after our three game road trip according to RealGM.
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Not surprised. He's been out for 2 years and was playing hard and a decent amount of minutes

I wanna know what caby's issue is
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I'm pretty sure Noah called Tyson a gay slur. Get that Kobe fine in action.
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Felton playing like d will , get em outta here.
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Felton playing like d will , get em outta here.

Nah son, I like Felton. Woody just gotta handle his shooting. Gotta cut his shots in half and work on some things.
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I think this week showed we can use Amare (if he plays some defense and tries to rebound) and Shump. He started out great, but Felton's had some horrible games (both houston games, all 3 nets games, last night) and Shump can take his minutes when he's playing like garbage. To be honest, Felton started pissing me off the 2nd Bk game, but hopefully he can get it going again, or Shump can take his minutes and shots away.

As much as it seems like there's no role for Amare on this team, Sheed, Kurt and Camby are going to be injury prone all year and Melo and Chandler are going to break down having to carry this team every night. It can't hurt to have 1 other legit scoring option and who can run the floor and play the 5 against smaller teams. Health and stamina is going to be an issue with this team because we went with all the 39 year olds.

As a sidenote, Ronnie Brewer is useless offensively. I'd like to see Copeland take some of his minutes on a night where we can't score.
post #7767 of 28831
I think Felton has been playing through an injury

My main problem with him is he can't control a game. he can't manage the team like Kidd.

The team is okay when they get punched in the mouth scoring wise. They are okay coming back behind big. Like we saw against the spurs and nets.

Our problem is we can't get back in a game when we get punched in the mouth by what the players perceive to be bad officiating. Such as Memphis and tonight. We go straight into iso mode when we go against a physical defense and feel like we are getting screwed over by the refs


Also, I think sometimes we simply phone it in on the defensive end. Seems like we go way harder in the more marquee games like the nets and heat. Tyson in particular
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post #7769 of 28831
didn't see the game but can someone comment on the officiating? was it really that one sided?
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Our problem is we can't get back in a game when we get punched in the mouth by what the players perceive to be bad officiating. Such as Memphis and tonight. We go straight into iso mode when we go against a physical defense and feel like we are getting screwed over by the refs
How many teams do though? Got some games as an example? At best I can think of a few games where the Spurs did it against LAL. Other than that I can't think of many games where a team was playing 5 on 8 and managed to persevere by getting over the consistent inconsistency by referees except in the rare exceptions where the coach gets tossed and/or a fight breaks out cuz then the momentum shifts and/or the refs are forced to stop being bias and call the game tighter.

The better teams in the NBA that benefit for those types of officials rarely if ever have to get the other end of it. MIA, LAL, Chi (back in the 90s), etc.
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