Official NBA 2012-2013 Season Thread

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Everything you're saying about AD is what they said about Dwight in year one. Cept AD is coming off a dominant one year in college and a Gold medal.

i agree, but dwight was still 20 lbs heavier and a better athlete. i'd like to be wrong, but i'm still not sold
 
count me in as not being sold on anthony davis overall talent. he's probably not going to be counted on for buckets, but with austin rivers potentially playing PG, who is he going to catch lobs from? he is strong enough to defend in a league full of quality PFs?
lillard has an NBA body along with NBA range. he could very easily average 17 and 6 on a team that will fight for the 8th seed.

Everything you're saying about AD is what they said about Dwight in year one. Cept AD is coming off a dominant one year in college and a Gold medal.

Actually this kinda makes me want to compare him to Christian Laetner, who played lights out in college, and then in those 92 Olympics. He went for 18 and 9 his rookie year
 
I said 3rd or 4th.
But the only reason I considered Rivers is because thats literally the only thing he brings to the team. It could easily be EG, Ryan Anderson, AD then Rivers...but that doesnt change the fact that AD is going to draw alot of tough matchups, especially looking at their schedule for the 1st couple months of the season...If you think AD is moving Glen Davis/Al Jefferson/Joakim Noah off the block, then idk what to tell you

If you think moving Glen Davis or Noah off the block is important in the grand scheme of things, I don't know what to tell you.

Guarding Glen Davis is NOT why AD was the number 1 pick. Tyson Chandler isn't one of the best defenders in the league because of his post defense. With double teams and the lack of true back to the basket players, it's not that important of a skill. What's way more important is having a guy that can contest (without fouling, more important than blocks) every shot at the rim (covering after the perimeter guys get beat), effectively guard the pick and roll (and recover), and rebound. It's what all the elite bigmen defenders can do at a high life (KG, Tyson, Dwight) and it's what makes AD special.
 
If he develops his offense, the things Davis will be doing in three to four years will be special as well.
 
I said 3rd or 4th.
But the only reason I considered Rivers is because thats literally the only thing he brings to the team. It could easily be EG, Ryan Anderson, AD then Rivers...but that doesnt change the fact that AD is going to draw alot of tough matchups, especially looking at their schedule for the 1st couple months of the season...If you think AD is moving Glen Davis/Al Jefferson/Joakim Noah off the block, then idk what to tell you

If you think moving Glen Davis or Noah off the block is important in the grand scheme of things, I don't know what to tell you.

Guarding Glen Davis is NOT why AD was the number 1 pick. Tyson Chandler isn't one of the best defenders in the league because of his post defense. With double teams and the lack of true back to the basket players, it's not that important of a skill. What's way more important is having a guy that can contest (without fouling, more important than blocks) every shot at the rim (covering after the perimeter guys get beat), effectively guard the pick and roll (and recover), and rebound. It's what all the elite bigmen defenders can do at a high life (KG, Tyson, Dwight) and it's what makes AD special.

Once again, I said he would be an all star player, and very good in the league

I am simply saying that as a rookie, he will have matchups that will make it hard for him to get that ROY award
 
Once again, I said he would be an all star player, and very good in the league
I am simply saying that as a rookie, he will have matchups that will make it hard for him to get that ROY award

Wasn't trying to call you out specifically since you said AD'll be fine - but a lot of people see that AD is weak and act like it's going to be his downfall. I was addressing that argument. I think it's weak since AD is already bulking up and he's shown he's willing to battle with anyone which is way more important than being strong.
 
NobleKane: You're off-base about Gerald Green. He's not just a dunker anymore, kid can play. Green can be a valuable contributor off the bench, giving 18-20 minutes a night.
 
What does that 1975-76 Regular Season Champs banner mean to Denver Nuggets? I'm guessing it's ABA but what the hell is a Regular Season champ? :lol:
 
Watching that nugget workout vid...alot of these dudes look frail lol.
 
Even without Nash, I still think my team will stay competitive.  I'm really looking forward to this season.  Suns got a new court, now just waiting for our new uniforms.
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wait what?
i'm not sure if people just keep over-reading my response or just plain out don't agree with me but "my main concerns with harrison barnes are his lack of iso ability, lack of an elite first step to consistently get to the basket and getting to the free throw line. i think the areas where he will be getting buckets will be very similar to JR such as being a spot-up shooter, cutting to the basket, and transition. I also think he will be an above average defender similar to JR even though he's a rookie."
 
I think he'll be fine, but Dwight didnt win rookie of the year either, and is a more explosive athlete (not that AD isnt a great athlete). I think he'll be fine, but he's about to get bodied by some of these big men his rookie year
:lol: at you listing the players that you think will give AD problems. I love how you magnify one of his weakness (which isn't that big of a concern in today's NBA) and not really even addressing River's many holes in his game. I will guarantee you that Rivers will have a rougher start to his NBA career than AD and will get his *** bench for being a diva :tongue:. You can name any rookie then do what you just did to AD in terms of how you said he will have problems with basically every veteran he will be facing.
 
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His 13 ppg and 4 rebounds per game last year would disagree.

which was done in 30 games on a terrible nets team

so you reward him based off 30 games?


NobleKane is a lightweight troll. Son never really has anything of use to add to discussions. Just "(insert name) is trash because I said so and I have no real reason why"

hmmm who are you again? must be another banned dude holding a grudge :lol:
 
First Unit 

Chalmers
Wade 
Lebron
Battier
Bosh

Bench

Cole 
Ray Allen (James Jones)
Mike Miller 
Rashard Lewis
Joel Anthony (Vet Big Man)

Possible Closing Lineups

Any combination of....

Wade, Chalmers, Lebron, Allen, Miller, Lewis, Bosh, Battier

The versatility in this squad is unbelievable.  They will have trouble guarding the Lakers 2 bigs, but you can say the same thing the other way around.  How is Dwight Howard going to guard Chris Bosh if you pull him out to the corner 3 pointer? How will Pau Gasol guard Battier all around the perimeter? It only leaves gaping holes for two of the best slashers in the world.  Then you bring Howard/Gasol inside to take away those lanes and you have an arsenal of 3 point shooters with wide open shots.  Steve Nash does not have the quickness to shift defensively to contest those shots. Kobe might but you're going to wear him out defensively by doing that.  I don't think the Lakers are deep enough to keep up with the Heat, but if their squad can keep the score close until the end of the game, their starting 5 will create some serious damage to whoever they are playing.  

Sorry for turning this into a Lakers vs. Heat discussion >D

I dont think they will have a hard time with the lakers if they do meet in the finals. lakers always seem to give up the open 3.

we shall see how well mr potato head has this aging lakers team playing defense in a non lockout year...

anything is possible. look how dwight carried that magic team on the defensive side of things..
 
NobleKane: You're off-base about Gerald Green. He's not just a dunker anymore, kid can play. Green can be a valuable contributor off the bench, giving 18-20 minutes a night.

i watched him tear it up in the d league last year i believe. however i am still not sold that he is a solid player that can be consistent and stick around. i was shocked so many nets fans were sad that he signed with indiana.
 
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