Originally Posted by shoelyesses
Originally Posted by beh235
What you described attributes to athleticism. Idk what it is, but the skill level overall isn't as good. The landscape of the game has changed. Kids watching the past generations grew to be 6'9" and can dribble from watching all the guards play because they were popular. Now you got 7'0" dudes pulling up for 3. It's hard to explain but the quality of basketball now is down while athleticism is up.
how so a guy 6'9 etc...that can run a offense,pass, shoot from anywhere on the floor,play defense/offense at multiple positions isnt skilled. Charles oakley for an example played off of athleticism, richard dumas remined in the league do to athleticism/physical play.... I just cant see how you could say a player like iuno a vin baker, a pj brown, a dale davis....laphonso ellis...(all were multiple year allstars) are more skilled and have a more all around versatile game compared to a dirk, a kg, a carmelo anthony hell a chris bosh even.
When i watched a player like a brad daughty...a kevin willis.... a jason williams all who are around 6'9 then i see the likes of a lebron, a melo, hell even a iguodola or kevin love...i just dont see how you can say the aforementioned players have a better overall game and and more skilled versatile player.
I think what happened was the traditional way positions were thought of has changed. There has been a shift in what players can do at a particular position. A center in the traditional sense of the word is pretty much obsolete now. Players rely on their athletic ability rather than fundamentals and develop their game from that (i.e. Dwight Howard). I might not be expressing it correctly now, but lack of focus on certain fundamentals for players as a whole is lacking. College basketball sucks because of this. I see what you're saying though, it still boggles my mind how versatile Lebon is and he's basically a Karl Malone body type with the skills of Magic, **** is crazy. Being really athletic doesn't mean you are going to be skilled though.
Thinking about it, Lebron, Kevin Love, and Carmelo are outliers. There aren't a bunch of them walking around.